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Giant swap file
by Jenny Hopkins 10 Mar '05

10 Mar '05

Hi List, I appear to have turned my 120G backup server into a giant swap file. I typed mkswap -v1 /dev/hda (may have been hda1) instead of /dev/hda5. I've been battling for a day and am not much further down the line. I'm currently booted into knoppix. I'm trying: root@0[sda5]# mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1/ -t ext3 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1, or too many mounted file systems root@0[sda5]# dumpe2fs -h /dev/hda1 dumpe2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) dumpe2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hda1 Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. cfdisk reports my partitions as they should be with the filesystem as linux. Is there any hope? Thanks. Jenny

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net-snmp, snmp, confused about libraries
by Chris Green 08 Mar '05

08 Mar '05

I have a utility which says it requires net-snmp, OK, that's a normal sort of statement. However the ./configure script actually asks for 'lsnmp', i.e. it's looking for linsnmp.so when it builds. I have installed lib-snmp but it doesn't provide a libsnmp.so and there really doesn't seem to be such a thing as just an snmp library. Can anyone throw any light on this confusion? -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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epia via motherboards & frame buffer
by J Taylor 08 Mar '05

08 Mar '05

Ok, I've got several of these boards and have installed a couple of different linux's on each one, but can't seem to get frame buffer to work under any distribution, which is a pain because they all seem to install that by default, and it is something that I would like to have installed. Has anyone else had problems with these? I can currently boot fine by saying things like linux video=vga16:off at lilo and know i can disable it in otherways, so my question isnt how to disable it, its how to make it work. I get really garbled screens once the frame buffering module kicks in. I have a M class mboard with Nemiah 1gig proccies.. suggestions / proposals / jokes or insults welcome...

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RE: [ALUG] epia via motherboards & frame buffer
by Keith Watson 08 Mar '05

08 Mar '05

> From: Edward Taylor Sent: 05 March 2005 13:01 > > I'm not planning on running X at all (yet) but would like to get framebuffer > to work. Have tried 2.20 and 2.24, but don't really know much > about "how" frame buffer works or what and why. What is strange is that > noone else I know with one of these boards has registered any trouble with > installing. Have you tried booting with a live CD like knoppix? (although I'm not sure if that uses frambuffers by default) It's helped my in the past when I wasn't sure if a problem was hardware related or not. Regards, Keith ____________ Can there be bliss when all that lives must suffer? - Shalt thou be saved and hear the whole world cry? - HP Blavatsky

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IRC meeting reminder
by Adam Bower 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

Hi people, It appears that the irc meeting reminder has gone MIA. If you follow this link you can read it http://lists.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/main/2005-January/020548.html Um, and irc meetings don't tend to have as much momentum as in the past as there is pretty much always people hanging around on irc talking loads of nonsense (but we do try and help newbies out if they have problems etc.). Adam -- jabberid = quinophex(a)jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem

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Gallery
by Jenny Hopkins 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

I've just installed Gallery on Debian testing - a web-based photo album run on php. It's really excellent: I've got three years worth of completely unmanaged photos on my computer that I've been meaning to sort out and name and print. The one odd thing I notice so far is that not all the text appears until the mouse rolls over it. Anyone else tried Gallery? Jenny

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Introducing myself
by mike.banahan＠cutterproject.co.uk 06 Mar '05

06 Mar '05

Hi folks - Ted Harding persuaded me to join the list, I should have done so ages ago. For those who don't know me, for the last ten years I have run GBdirect in Leeds, a mostly open-source oriented consultancy. I'm a committee member of UKUUG and The Open Source Consortium (OSC) as well as being CTO of OpenForumEurope and involved with the universities OSS Watch group. A relatively new venture is this Cutter Project thing about using thin-client Linux in schools. Nowadays I live in Ely. Apart from Open Source stuff the main interest is drinking - so who's coming to the Ely CAMRA Beer festival next Saturday? See you there? How about a PGP key-signing session while we can still stand? Mike -- Mike Banahan Cutter Project - desktop Linux systems for schools and offices 0870 350 1694

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FW: BBC Working Lunch, Orwell High School
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 06 Mar '05

06 Mar '05

Hi Folks, Mike Banahan (of UKUUG) dropped a couple of us a line having come across our recent exchanges on ALUG about the "Working Lunch" program. I'm forwarding an extract (below) which points to the Cutter Project website (which was the topic of the BBC program). I'm very impressed by the way the project is written up and presented on the website, and if any of you can think of places where it might be taken up, this could only be for the greater good of all! Best wishes, Ted. -----FW: <20050305191408.GA25899(a)lager.gbdirect.co.uk>----- Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 19:14:08 +0000 From: mike.banahan(a)cutterproject.co.uk To: Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk, karl(a)thefoleyhouse.co.uk Subject: BBC Working Lunch, Orwell High School Hi guys - I saw your posting to the ALUG archives. [...] The case study is on The Cutter Project website, see http://www.cutterproject.co.uk Cheers, Mike Banahan --------------End of forwarded message------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 06-Mar-05 Time: 09:19:04 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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Re: [ALUG] Travel Towards Debian
by John Seago 06 Mar '05

06 Mar '05

On Sunday 06 Mar 2005 06:26, Tim Green <timothy.j.green(a)gmail.com> wrote: > ... only download the first CD and install any missing packages from > the Internet, especially as you'll want to do an apt-get -u > dist-upgrade when Sarge is properly released, and probably a few more > times inbetween now and then. Sorry, that was an illustration of the difference between the two, I don't think I actually use more than 10% of what's on the Slackware disks. Whilst I bought the whole set, ('Sage'), from Steve McIntyre in order to pay for what I was gettitng, what I'm using is a downloaded version of the new 'Sarge' disk one and an ftp install of the rest of the system. I'm still having problems getting it to go into a text login and then using <startx>, I've commented out the <gdm> line, but I then get the text login and startx on both root and user, but then end up with a Gnome GUI. But I'm Googling away and keep finding helpful bits and I will get there this time. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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USB Headset
by Wayne Stallwood 05 Mar '05

05 Mar '05

I have a Plantronics DSP-100 USB headset that is giving me a little grief when I try and use it on my SuSE 9.1 box (It should be using the generic USB audio driver, the nice guy from Plantronics says that works) Certainly I get some encouraging remarks in /var/log/messages (posted below) But in YaST I can see no additional audio devices, neither can KAMix So what do I need to do next to get the audio device actually registered as an Audio device. Ta Wayne Mar 5 18:30:03 linux kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 2 Mar 5 18:30:03 linux kernel: usb 1-1: Product: Plantronics Headset Mar 5 18:30:03 linux kernel: usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Plantronics Mar 5 18:30:03 linux kernel: usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 00100-0429034410003-V060000A Mar 5 18:30:03 linux kernel: drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: ctrl urb status -32 received Mar 5 18:30:03 linux kernel: input: USB HID v1.00 Device [Plantronics Plantronics Headset] on usb-0000:00:10.0-1 Mar 5 18:30:03 linux /etc/hotplug/usb.agent[17207]: need a device for this command Mar 5 18:30:03 linux /etc/hotplug/usb.agent[17206]: need a device for this command Mar 5 18:30:03 linux /etc/hotplug/usb.agent[17208]: need a device for this command Mar 5 18:30:03 linux /etc/hotplug/usb.agent[17211]: need a device for this command Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: device 2 audiocontrol interface 0 has 1 input and 1 output AudioStreaming interfaces Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: valid input sample rate 6400 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: valid input sample rate 48000 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: device 2 interface 2 altsetting 1: format 0x00000040 sratelo 6400 sratehi 48000 attributes 0x01 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: valid input sample rate 6400 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: valid input sample rate 48000 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: device 2 interface 2 altsetting 2: format 0x00000010 sratelo 6400 sratehi 48000 attributes 0x01 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: valid input sample rate 6400 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: valid input sample rate 48000 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: device 2 interface 2 altsetting 3: format 0x80000010 sratelo 6400 sratehi 48000 attributes 0x01 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: valid output sample rate 6400 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: valid output sample rate 48000 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: device 2 interface 1 altsetting 1: format 0x00000010 sratelo 6400 sratehi 48000 attributes 0x01 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: valid output sample rate 6400 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: valid output sample rate 48000 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: device 2 interface 1 altsetting 2: format 0x80000010 sratelo 6400 sratehi 48000 attributes 0x01 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: registered dsp 14,19 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: constructing mixer for Terminal 20 type 0x0301 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: registered mixer 14,16 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: constructing mixer for Terminal 13 type 0x0101 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbaudio: registered mixer 14,32 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usb_audio_parsecontrol: usb_audio_state at 0000010034754580 Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbcore: registered new driver audio Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: drivers/usb/class/audio.c: v1.0.0:USB Audio Class driver Mar 5 18:30:10 linux kernel: usbcore: registered new driver snd-usb-audio

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Re: [ALUG] Travel Towards Debian
by John Seago 05 Mar '05

05 Mar '05

On Friday 04 Mar 2005 06:26, Owen Synge <owens.singh(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > > There seems to be an awful lot of other stuff in there that Slackware > > doesn't seem to need to provide the same apps, are all these > > dependencies really necessary? > What do you think? I find debian a good flexable OS, Would you ever ever > try rhythembox on a slackware box? Undoubtly it is, I've got the full set of CD's for 'Sarge' 13 Disks. Slackware comes on a 4 CD set two of whcih are source, extra packages and retired packages which may be needed by some, and the full Slackware Manual; on the Second disk is KDE and Gnome as they got too big to stay on the first disk with the rest of the distribution, in fact I it only needed the first disk, (to get a running OS with KDE and Gnome), when I started using it. As for Rythmbox, I'll have a lok at it and see if I can learn to use it, I might be getting to be too and drugged a dog to teach new tricks to, (I'm still trying to learn Emacs, and get mysql to start on and run on Slackware, permissions thing apparently but I'll get there). Thank you so much for your help Owen, Haven't seen you for years, literally. Not since a very hot meeting in Syleham one summer. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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RE: [ALUG] New Member
by Keith Watson 05 Mar '05

05 Mar '05

> From: David Reynolds Sent: 28 February 2005 14:27 > > Basically need. I need a server OS capable of doing what Linux does, but my > > desktop/laptop machines came with Windows on. Seems pointless to wipe and > > reload when Windows does the job. > > I felt the same, but on moving to Linux my productivity has increased > quite a lot. Especially when it comes to uploading files to servers, > using version control such as SVN. mmmmmmmmm... SVN!! :o) Keith

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Cross-platform video messaging
by Graham 05 Mar '05

05 Mar '05

Can anyone offer suggestions for hardware and software suitable for running point-to-point video messaging between Linux (KDE) and Windows? The aim, naturally, being to chat for hours with pictures and without incurring phone bills. I haven't been keeping up to date in this area. -- GT

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Job Vacancies in Manchester (Sale)
by Keith Watson 04 Mar '05

04 Mar '05

My firm (Kewill Systems) is recruiting at it's head office in Manchester (Sale). Not sure if this is the correct place to post this (sorry if it's not), but just in case it's of interest to anyone...... > From: Amanda Brandwood Sent: 04 March 2005 15:23 > > We are currently recruiting for the following vacancies at the Sale Office: > > J2EE Software Support Engineer > UNIX Systems Administrator (Linux) > Oracle Database Administrator > Experienced J2EE Developer > > > Should you be interested in this role, or know of anyone who > may have an interest, please visit the Kewill Intranet site > under the HR/Admin bookmark and look under Job Vacancies > where a copy of the relevant job description has been posted today. > > PLEASE NOTE THE CLOSING DATE FOR INTERNAL APPLICATIONS IS > FRIDAY 18TH MARCH 2005 Not sure what the closing date is for external applicants but if anyone is interested contact me off list and I'll forward a copy of the job description and contact details to you. Regards, Keith ____________ There is no here, no there. - Infinity is before our eyes. - Seng-T'san

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RE: [ALUG] Job Vacancies in Manchester (Sale)
by Keith Watson 04 Mar '05

04 Mar '05

> From: MJ Ray Sent: 04 March 2005 16:07 > Keith wrote: > > Not sure if this is the correct place to post this (sorry > if it's not), > > I don't think a high proportion of the list are looking for > new jobs right now and this isn't particularly Anglian, so > I'd suggest putting it somewhere else instead. As > http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?AlugFaq says: > > If you have a job to advertise then it also must be > Unix/Linux related [...], you also may > find that you will get a better response if you try listing at > > * http://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/linuxjobs > Cheers MJ (next time I'll RTFF!! :o) ) Keith

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Re: [ALUG] Travel Towards Debian
by John Seago 04 Mar '05

04 Mar '05

On Friday 04 Mar 2005 06:26, Brett Parker wrote: > As for gnome stuff, why not just leave it there? are you short > on disk space? Sometimes the Gnome apps can be of use (AbiWord and > Gnumeric spring to mind here). I could just never get used to GNOME, and I think it may be the visual impact rather than anything else. As for AbiWord and Gnumeric, both come seperately IIRC on slackware, indeed I am using AbiWord as the latest KDE word processor has an annoying glitch. thank you for your help, I now have a start point with which to break Debian, but I findI earn a little with every disaster. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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Travel Towards Debian
by John Seago 04 Mar '05

04 Mar '05

I have today looked back over the archives of the ALUG Main Lists. I see that I started, June-July 2001, with trying to get Mandrake to install, (new IDE cables cured the fault I seem to remember), but within that time I'd moved on to Red Hat, was pleased that it went in and worked didn't like it and had moved on to Slackware by December. Since then I've kept having tries at Debian. It was an ambition to get Debian installed, for the last week I've had it running and as long as one sticks to using KDE, there seems to be no recognisable difference between the two both stable both what I'm used to. I have however taken Debian out and re-installed the base system. I'd like to know if there is a way of getting what I have with Slackware, a text log-in for both user and root with the ability to switch to a GUI by using <startx>, and how does one get rid of the Gnome? There seems to be an awful lot of other stuff in there that Slackware doesn't seem to need to provide the same apps, are all these dependencies really necessary? -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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New Member
by Simon Marden 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Hello People, New member to ALUG here. I am Technical Manager for Squeeze Your Mind Ltd, a web design agency based in Norwich. We've been trading for 3 years now, using Linux web servers, and producing our web sites using LAMP technology (the PHP flavour, not Python or Perl). Why do we like linux? Well, because of the very low initial costs of course. Personally, I am amazed by Linux on a daily basis. The things I can do with a Linux box, and for free, are astounding, and I'm blowing the OS's and the Linux communities trumpet here, not mine. Simon Marden SQUEEZE YOUR MIND LTD T: +44 (0)1603 437773 E: SIMON(a)SQUEEZEYOURMIND.CO.UK This message and its attachments (if applicable) is intended for the addressed recipients only, if you are not one of the intended recipients please treat this message as confidential and forward it to support(a)squeezeyourmind.co.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 27/02/2005

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Jonathan McDowell having difficulty with my posts to ALUG
by John Seago 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 03:25:16PM +0000, Jonathan McDowell wrote > On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 06:48:13AM +0000, John Seago wrote something > that was in reply to an existing thread, but lacked In-Reply-To or > References headers. > > Can you fix your email client please? I originally thought KMail (which > is what your headers claim you're using) was broken, but there are other > ALUGers using it without breaking threads. It's much easier to read > lists when associated posts are kept together in my experience. I am indeed using Kmail, in fact the Kmail which comes with the KDE in Slackware 10.1 and I believe, Debian Sarge, both of which are installed on my computer. > It's been pointed out to you that you might be reading via a digest, Where, when and by whom? > in which case at least one of the digest options removes message ids. Is > there any chance you'd consider switching to a MIME based digest (which > I think should preserve a Message-Id header) or individual posts? You are right in assuming that I am reading, and writing in reply to, everything in the form of a daily digest, and, I had assumed, in plain text. I have, however, had a look at the seetings which inform me that there are two options MIME Compliant (Quoted Printable), which is the option set, or Allow 8 bit. There is a third possibility, I am broken, at waist level, and suffer from chronic pain. In the winter, when the pain is usually at its worst, I take quantities of drugs which have either been withdrawn from issue to new patients, fall into Class A, or are addictive. I had a bad year last year, and this cold winter has not improved matters. Pain and drugs diminish what little remaining intellect I had. so it may be that whilst I can remeber something, I will have difficulty in reading back to find it, sometimes such activity can be quite entertaining with the individual letters doing tiller girl routines across the page. I am, for about an hour after the regular doses, until they start to wear off about five to seven hours later, likely to be higher than a kite, either that or I am asleep. which is why you may find messages timed at 03.00 hrs as drugs have worn off before they were due to, and I am reading and replying to mail, until such time as I can have the next dose. Perhaps you could solve other problems I have with Digests, the FSFE digest arrives with each digest dated <Thu Jan 1 00:59:59 1970>. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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Knighthood for services to... what?
by John Seago 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

I heard on the wireless today that the Queen has just given Bill Gates an Honourary Knighthood. I wonder who recomended that, and why? -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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Fedora Core 3 and SATA
by Stuart Bailey 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

Hi, Does anyone know if Fedora Core 3 will install and run on SATA disks? Many thanks, Stuart. -- --------------------------------------- Stuart Bailey BSc (hons) CEng CITP MBCS LinuSoft (Proprietor) (01953) 601294 (07778) 383739 http://www.linusoft.co.uk ---------------------------------------- ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please email postmaster(a)linusoft.co.uk immediately. You should not copy or use this email or attachments for any purpose nor disclose their contents to any other person. NO BINDING CONTRACT WILL RESULT FROM THIS E-MAIL UNTIL SUCH TIME AS A WRITTEN DOCUMENT IS SIGNED ON BEHALF OF LinuSoft. LinuSoft cannot accept any responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks. *************************************************************************

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Re: Linux Party
by John Seago 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

On Wednesday 02 Mar 2005 06:26, main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk wrote: > Iran is not going to be invaded by the UK, social > list subscribes already now there is a single issue > party to stop that, with several other parties > against. There is however no party actively supporting > FLOSS in East Anglia. Votes for a Linux > Party would show support for a positive progressive > idea, in an election filled with negativeaty. The Our World our Say Advertisement said "Our World Our Say was founded in response to the Iraq war with the aim of giving people a voice over world changing issues. We have since grown into a movement with over 60,000 people taking part in our campaigns. Our Vision of a world in which ordinary people have real power over decisions that affect our future. Our Mission: in a world where politicians are too influenced by large companies, media magnates and the President of the United States. Our World Our Say seeks to return Power to ordinary people by helping them find hteir political voice. By using modern technology, we are building a community that can influence decision makers as global conflict, human rights the future of the environment and defending democratic values." Note the "Mission" section would seem to cover the current software Patent situation neatly, I've written to ask what they intend to do, I'll let you know their reply. On the other hand as Ipswich always used to be a few hundred, sometimes less thatn two hundered either way that would seem to be the obvious target. I don't think you'd/we'd win though just possibly get one of the other candidatez in by taking away votes. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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Re: Linux Political Party
by John Seago 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

I don't just listen to the wireless, I also read the papers, and I found an advertisement, which may help with the underlying problem which has manifested itself as a call for a Linux Political Party. See here: http://www.owos.info/ Why just a Linux Party? Why not include the BSD's, and others, take a look here: http://www.freeos.com/ and I'm sure there are others. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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RE: [ALUG] New Member
by Keith Watson 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

> From: Anthony Anson Sent: 01 March 2005 02:10 > Or use a boot mangler - either a Linux one or a DOS/Windows one, and > then you can have both on the same box. ATM I have Bootmagic. (From > Partition Magic) I've moved from Bootmagic to GRUB and found it excellent. Can recommend it. Loads of howto's around on the web on how to set it up and a 5 second google turns up loads. Regards, Keith ____________ YEAR, n. - A period of three hundred and sixty-five disappointments. - Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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RE: [ALUG] Start-up folder
by Keith Watson 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

> From: Anthony Anson Sent: 01 March 2005 02:12 > The message <200502282244.10413.ALUGlist(a)digimatic.plus.com> > from Wayne Stallwood <ALUGlist(a)digimatic.plus.com> contains > these words: > > > My only complaint about the whole look and feel of KDE and it's associated > > apps is the Logout applet, they really need to loose that Dragon !! > > Loosing dragons is contrary to the terms of the Countryside and Wildlife Act. Be wery careful, taglines about annoyed dragons, crunchyness and ketchup, spring to mind. Keith

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