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over-riding BIOS memory detection
by Glen Tyler 30 Dec '02

30 Dec '02

Dear All, can anyone help/put me straight on this. I have a i486 machine running Slackware 8.1. As a christmas present I bought it a 32MB Simm, it currently has 16MB installed (one module). When I replaced the 16MB with the 32MB the bios still only detects 16MB on boot and everything runs as before. No matter I thought - I have read somewhere that Linux will override such settings, but I have been unable to get the kernel (2.4.18) to do so. I read the lilo.conf man page which indicated that adding 'append="mem=32M"' to lilo would do it, but the computer would not boot after adding this. A further search of the internet produced a sort of How-to doc that lists three options (but I think is written for RedHat). The first of these is the same as the lilo.conf recommendation, the second involves giving mem sizes and start locations in hexadecimals e.g. append="mem=exactmap mem=0x9f000@0 mem=0x1f00000@100000" and the third is like the 2nd, but in english.. append="mem=exactmap mem#=640K@0 mem=31M@1M" all these end in the same result - failure to boot. I have tried these messages specifying 16MB as the memory size (incase there really was a problem with the 32MB size) but the result is the same. In the mini how-to it is suggested that white space is needed between the start quotes and the first mem statement - but that doesn't resolve this problem either. So - am I correct in assuming that the Linux kernel can use this additional 16MB of memory , and if so how do I let it know its there? all the best Glen

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 30 Dec '02

30 Dec '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Soundcards
by Matt 29 Dec '02

29 Dec '02

Can anyone recommend a sound card for Linux, which has a fully supported wavetable and midi interface? Cheers, Matt

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webcams
by Syd Hancock 28 Dec '02

28 Dec '02

Has anyone any experience and/or recommendations for webcams to use under linux? I have used Gnomemeeting to receive from Netmeeting but cannot send as there seems to be no linux driver for my webcam. Cheers Syd

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Phoenix Homepage
by Wayne Stallwood 28 Dec '02

28 Dec '02

Ok so I may have a slight hangover, and thus not really firing on all cylinders. But this is driving me mad. I have Phoenix 0.5 installed. it's working really well for me apart from this one annoying problem. Regardless of what I set as the homepage Phoenix always starts by displaying http://www.barnesandnoble.com/. If I click the home button Phoenix will go to my configured homepage. and when starting up you can see it starting to load it in the status bar at the bottom of the window before going to barnesandnoble. I've greped both my .phoenix/ directory and the installation directory for the URL. found nothing. Done a google search and looked theough the Moz docs all to no avail Any ideas anyone before I start downloading the source and looking through that ? Wayne

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A Postfix mystery
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 26 Dec '02

26 Dec '02

I have just replaced Exim with Postfix. There are a few things not yet working as I want them but there is also one oddity. Whenever the system sends an internal mail to root, which is then re-directed to me as a user, it tries to send the same email to a number of non-existant users: <"$h_subject:contains"@machine1.mynetwork>: unknown user: "$h_subject:contains" <endif(a)machine1.mynetwork>: unknown user: "endif" <"fax stats"@machine1.mynetwork>: unknown user: "fax stats" <then(a)machine1.mynetwork>: unknown user: "then" <if(a)machine1.mynetwork>: unknown user: "if" <elif(a)machine1.mynetwork>: unknown user: "elif" <finish(a)machine1.mynetwork>: unknown user: "finish" <"facsimile received"@machine1.mynetwork>: unknown user: "facsimile received" <error_message(a)machine1.mynetwork>: unknown user: "error_message" <"facsimile not received"@machine1.mynetwork>: unknown user: "facsimile not received" <save(a)machine1.mynetwork>: unknown user: "save" These users are obviously rubbish but I have no idea where it is finding this stuff. This problem does not occur with emails to or from the internet. Some ideas as to where to look would be appreciated. Barry Samuels

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Hidden Knowledge
by Keith Watson 26 Dec '02

26 Dec '02

I've just been having a tidy up of my ALUG Main mail folder. There's a long list of submissions I've kept because they contained info. that I thought might be useful. It then occurred to me that all this info. is already in the mailing list archives anyway. Could we make some sort of search facility available for the archives? or is it better to download the consolidated list and search it locally? If so what's the best way? Keith ____________ BEAUTY, n. The power by which a woman charms a lover and terrifies a husband. Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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Kernel Config for Dialup Clients
by Keith Watson 25 Dec '02

25 Dec '02

I'm having a number of silly little problems with my Debian install when setting up the PPP dial up connections. I won't go into detail because I don't think they are the main issue. Trouble is that I've rebuilt the kernel to match my hardware config. In the process I've taken out a lot of the server side networking support as I only intend to use the system as a dialup client. So apart from async PPP support and iptables (firewall) what is the minimum kernel config and services required for a dialup client only system? Oh! and Happy Christmas (Seasons Greeting for the PC minded :o) ) and a Happy New Year, Keith ____________ COWARD, n. One who in a perilous emergency thinks with his legs. Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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Moving directories to a new partition
by Ian Douglas 24 Dec '02

24 Dec '02

The Linux partition on my triple boot Windows/Linux PC has gradually been filling up over the past few months and is now 98% full with just 40MB remaining. I have therefore had a clear out on my Windows partition to create some free space and have been able to create two new small partitions which I can now use with Linux to ease some of the strain. My current setup is: /dev/hda1 Windows /dev/hda2 swap /dev/hda5 /boot /dev/hda7 / I would like to change this to: /dev/hda1 Windows /dev/hda2 swap /dev/hda5 /boot /dev/hda7 /usr /dev/hda12 / /dev/hda13 /home I have formatted these two new partitions and moved /home from hda7 to hda13 ok and deleted it from hda7. I now want to move everything else apart from the /usr directory from hda7 to hda12. What is the best way to tell Linux to move everything except this one directory from one partition to another (hda12 is a lot smaller than hda7 and is not big enough to hold /usr even temporarily)? Ian.

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Re[2]: [Alug] I thought adding extra functionality to my mail system would be easy
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 24 Dec '02

24 Dec '02

xs(a)kittenz.org wrote: > > What doesn't work is if I try to send an email from machine2 (Postfix) > out to the internet via machine1 (Exim). Is that likely to be a problem > with the setup on machine2 or machine1? > > it is hard to say. where does this error come from?

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 23 Dec '02

23 Dec '02

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Re: Welcome to the "main" mailing list (Digest mode)
by B.E.D.Ellis-00＠student.lboro.ac.uk 23 Dec '02

23 Dec '02

Greetings Penguin Worshippers, Just signed up for your group since I've decided to have another go at getting into linux. I failed a couple of years back after giving up on getting my network card working w/ Red Hat 7.1. I even had 2 linux gurus come in and try and get it working with no success. I am a student placement working as an OSS Engineer at BTexact in Ipswich, Suffolk. I've always been a big programmer/hacker/code monkey and wisked away many an hour making some useless application or another. I'm getting fed up with doing windows programming and wanting to try something different... And so my long journey towards a new faith, "linux", begins. Under the true gods... a Penguin and a Goat. So, to start off. What distros are used by most of you, since I don't wanna start using a distro I can't get help for. Plus, I don't know which Distro would be best suited for a homeuser/developer/gamer. The only two distros I've really had a look at are Debian and Red Hat. One, because a mate of mine used it, and the other simply because I hear the name Red Hat all the time (Never knew if thats a good thing or a bad thing...) Anywayz, I'll leave you to digest, Ben aka DragonWolf

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I thought adding extra functionality to my mail system would be easy
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 22 Dec '02

22 Dec '02

I have a small home network of just two machines. Machine1 runs Debian Testing with Exim and Procmail. Machine2 is running Mandrake 9 with Postfix. I have just spent about two half-days trying to set things up so that I can send mail from one machine to another. After having spent hours searching for information on both my own machine and on the Internet I have to admit defeat. When I try to send mail from a user on either machine to a user on the other I get the following message: 'Host lookup did not complete' /etc/hosts.conf on both machines: order hosts,bind multi on /etc/hosts on machine1: 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.168.1.1 machine1.mynetwork machine1 192.168.1.2 machine2.mynetwork machine2 # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts # (added automatically by netbase upgrade) ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts Surely it can't be this difficult? I should add that a lot of the information I have read might just as well have been written in Swahili for all the sense it made. After a very, very, very frustrating 24 hours I can appreciate why some people would give up on Linux and go back to Windows. Am I missing an important bit of software? Barry Samuels Professional Defeatist

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Re: [Alug] Woody
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 19 Dec '02

19 Dec '02

Adam Bower wrote: >I am usually >on most evenings from about 8ish but if i don't reply immediatly don't think I >won't see anything written there. Oops, do you mean you've been reading all those terrible things I've been saying about you behind your back then? ;-) Jen.

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Threats to free software
by Chris Lale 19 Dec '02

19 Dec '02

I just wondered how many people were aware of two recent threats to free software. 1. W3C "royalty freee" patent policy proposals. -------------------------------------------- The proposed policy permits W3C members to commit their patent claims "royalty-free" for use by implementers of the standard, but with "field of use" restrictions that would be incompatible with section 7 of the GNU General Public License. Such "field of use" restrictions, in other words, would prevent implementation of W3C standards as Free Software. Details at http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/w3c-patent.html. Comments to W3C must reach <www-patentpolicy-comment(a)w3.org> by Tuesday 31 December 2002. 2. EU plans to legalise software patents in Europe. ------------------------------------------------ The proposal was drafted by the Business Software Alliance, a US-based group dominated by Microsoft, in cooperation with the European Commission. AFAIK it is still under discussion by the European Comission. It seems to pose a threat to free software and the Internet. Details and petition at http://petition.eurolinux.org/index.html If you wish to email any MEP(s) (there are 8 for the Eastern Region), you can find their email addresses at http://www.europarl.org.uk/uk_meps/MembersMain.htm This all seems very worrying. Does anyone have any more up-to-date knowledge of these issues? Cheers, Chris. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | ___ Chris Lale <ctlale(a)coolscience.co.uk> | | / \ | | | <_/ My PC runs Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 (http://www.debian.org). | | \ Robust, secure and free operating system + applications. | | `- | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ -- ___ Chris Lale <ctlale(a)netscape.net> / \ | <_/ My PC runs Debian GNU/Linux 3.0. \ Robust, secure and free operating system + applications. \ Available at http://www.debian.org

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Ideal christmas presents :)
by Jamie French 18 Dec '02

18 Dec '02

Hi Guys, Hope this is ok, but I have been asked by the wife to have a clear up for which I am selling some items, which there will be more to follow: 1 x Shiva Integrator 150 ISDN router for more info view http://support.intel.com/support/si/routers/integrator/150/chap_1.htm 1 x BT Home highway PCI ISDN card (boxed) for more info view http://www.homehighway.bt.com/flash/need/relpro_isdn.htm If interested please email with an offer. Take Care, Jamie

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SuSE mini home network
by Anton 18 Dec '02

18 Dec '02

Hello again, I eventually gave up with Mandrake and installed SuSE 8.1 Professional instead on both my machines. Works much better and was totally easy to set up. So now I have a different question if anyone can answer it... (I don't think its a hard one... ) I have two machines in my mini home network, one dual booting MSW98SE and SuSE8.1Prof and the other just booting SuSE8.1Prof (because its only got a diddy 4Gig hard drive so it didn't seem worth putting both operating systems on it.) One of the machines connects to the internet via 56k modem (I intend to upgrade to ADSL in a few months time but am working with this set up for now). We use KMail as our mail client, and I would like to set it up so we can access our accounts from either machine. There are three seperate users. Anyone know how to set it up to do this? Anton

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Hello
by Michael Sage 18 Dec '02

18 Dec '02

To All, Just changed mail address, this is just to check all is ok Thanks. Michael Sage

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Linux booting from second ide controller?
by NuTTeR -- Not Entered -- 18 Dec '02

18 Dec '02

Hi, Ive just got a new computer with win 2000 installed. Its also got alot of specialist software and device drivers(not avalible for linux) so im keeping it(i also like it its the only version of windows i can say that about). So my problem is that i dont want to re-install windows 2000 on a smaller partition unless i have REALY have to. If there were a version of fips or somthing similare then id maybe resize it so i could fit a smallish "/boot" partision. The boot partition needs to be in the first 8 Gig if i remember correctly or is that just older computers/drives? I do have a spare hd lying around not doing much but i seem to remember theres a problem getting linux to boot fromt he second ide controller, am i wrong? Also is there anyproblems booting win2000 with lilo? Same as win98 right? Thanx girls/guys =) -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze

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Hello
by Tony Dietrich 17 Dec '02

17 Dec '02

Just a quick note to introduce myself ... I'm a network specialist who's just returning i=to the *nix world after having been lured away to M$ by money <g>. I live in Felixstowe, and run a small network of RH8 machines here at home. Its been a struggle remembering how to handle Linux, but I'm getting there. TD

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Re: [Alug] Anyone Done The Cube Yet?
by NuTTeR -- Not Entered -- 17 Dec '02

17 Dec '02

Looks quite cool, very QuakeGL(or Quake-forge). Ill have to look at that when i get Linux installed on my new box(still havn got round to it). ----- Original Message ----- > On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 03:58:37PM -0000, Keith Watson said: > > <QUOTE> > > Landscape-style engine that pretends to be an indoor first person shooter engine. Combines very high precision dynamic occlusion > > culling with a form of geometric mipmapping on the whole world for dynamic LOD for configurable fps & graphic detail on most > > machines. Uses OpenGL & SDL. > > </QUOTE> > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze

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Newbie Redhat 8.0 install probs
by Greg Harris 16 Dec '02

16 Dec '02

Hi All, I'm a relative new-comer to the world of Linux and need some advice/help regarding an install of Redhat 8.0. I'm installing to a second HD on the primary channel, PCChips 810, 384MB, Radeon 7500VE to a Dell 1025HE monitor. This is networked via crossover cable to a RISC OS box using a KVM. Everything seems to progress fine, including the graphics card selection. The installer picks up the correct card model, RAM type and size. The problem arises with the monitor selection, it reports "un-probed". I have tried selecting the correct Dell model from the list but it will not give me the test screen or indeed any other help. If I then continue with the install the boot screen errors on the boot screen with EE for the graphics card and the monitor and then hangs. The error is something along the lines of 'screens found but no usable screens defined' or very similar. Has anybody had this problem or can anyone shed any light? TIA -- Greg Harris (Norwich)

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RE: Hardware Knowledge (was Re: [Alug] Re: Welcome to the "main" mailing list (Digest mode))
by Jonathan Dye 16 Dec '02

16 Dec '02

MJ Ray wrote: > Steve Fosdick <fozzy(a)pelvoux.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> Unless things have changed since I installed it Debian woody doesn't >> do graphics chip detection when setting up XFree86 so it will be >> useful to > > It can, but I can't remember the correct way to do it. Shows how > often you install Debian freshly! Install once, upgrade forever? I can't remember which packages you need exactly but I think some or all of the following may be useful for getting X to autodetect. discover read-edid mdetect JD _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service

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Re: [Alug] Re: Welcome to the "main" mailing list (Digest mode)
by NuTTeR -- Not Entered -- 16 Dec '02

16 Dec '02

I thought that -O3 was a bad thing to do when compiling(it must be good for somthing but i thought -O2 was the safe option)? ----- Original Message ----- From: Tristan Scott <trs(a)scott998.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 23:18:57 +0000 To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Alug] Re: Welcome to the "main" mailing list (Digest mode) > > > > > >> So, to start off. What distros are used by most of you, since I don't wanna > >>start using a distro I can't get help for. Plus, I don't know which Distro would > >>be best suited for a homeuser/developer/gamer. > >> > >> > Im running Gentoo. this is a good one if you're already into linux, or > want to know a lot about 'bare-bones' system configuration, and > everything is built from source. This means ive got a 10-20% spped > advantage on the same hardware as everything is built for the > athlon-tbird with -03 optimisations (-02 being normal, and binary > distros are usually built for either a 486 or 686) > > This is irrelevent for a newbie tho, i suggest using some distro that > holds your hand... what language(s) do you write in? gentoo obviously > has a good build environment, but i dont know about the big distros... > > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 16 Dec '02

16 Dec '02

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