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IRC Chat
by Kerin Westgate 20 Jan '01

20 Jan '01

Hello Sorry to be a pain, but could someone tell me how set IRC on linux please. Also have you got anymore details on the meeting i.e.. time, date, place, if you are interested as a newbie to your list and Linux I may be able to offer some help in a limited way, if the date is ok. many thanx Kerin

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ALUG's LinuxDay effort
by MJ Ray 19 Jan '01

19 Jan '01

Here are some ideas from an IRC chat this evening. Please comment on them. Main point is that it's probably useful to have a "round table" type discussion at the next meeting about what we're going to do. For those who don't know, my IRC nickname is "slef" and "miniman" is Jonathan Pulfer. Some editing has occurred to make this as short and to-the-point as possible: <miniman> have you got a room booked for UKlinuxday yet? <slef> No, failed again today <miniman> i have subscribed to the list <slef> I've been thinking about possible sponsors <miniman> what about latech computers and other linux friendly shops in norwich <miniman> even PcWorld <slef> Yeah... need to know a cost for that to work, though <slef> Ideal mix would be a computer shop, an ISP, a software company and some other linux-related company <miniman> we'll BJ confirmed the 4th at syleham <miniman> so we should be able to get some ideas from that <slef> here's hoping <slef> looking forward to seeing some new faces <slef> Do we want to do a talk? <miniman> i dunno, but i think we need to get some idea what we are going to host <miniman> and how many ppl we will want to cater for <miniman> whether it be a free for all or an organised install more like a seminar <slef> which, at syleham? <miniman> no, i was thinking along the lines of deciding at syleham <slef> yeah, that's probably good... I'm trying to get a venue around here for another meeting in March, but no luck yet <miniman> we could do with organising some booklets for the new users to take away on linux day with some pointers to information and quick tips and some contact details for us <slef> indeed... the information is almost certainly out there to put together into it <slef> I don't know yet what linuxsure are providing, though <miniman> we must have a couple of ppl on the list that are adept with artwork <miniman> i think we may need to write stuff down at the syleham meeting and try to get some of it sorted <slef> is that an offer to keep notes? <miniman> hmm <miniman> walked right into that ;-) <slef> yeah... I'm cheeky when it means that I might only have to do one person's work ;) <slef> I think maybe we should suggest a sit-down meeting bit an hour into the start or something <miniman> would be good to get some CD's prepared for the day aswell <slef> oh, I'm sure we'll manage that <slef> (keep an eye out on the list though) <slef> How we organise it is more of a problem... production line style? list of experts? some other way? <miniman> i was thinking along the lines of booths with install teams <miniman> so that there isn't a need to search for a particular person <miniman> maybe section on flavor and boot type (clean or dual) <slef> probably a good idea... compile supported hardware and feature lists for each supported one? <slef> then have a front desk doing sorting/advising <miniman> yup <miniman> may be have a demonstration install on the go as well so ppl can watch <slef> yeah, and somewhere for people to go when they're not helping with the installations <slef> (some games and art packages, etc... maybe get someone to bring a digicam or something else they're proud of) <miniman> mm <miniman> some stuff from the sponsers like posters or such <slef> a sort of "Linux gallery" * slef is now known as Tony Hart <miniman> we need input from other members too ;-) <slef> indeed <slef> doesn't stop you mailing them some ideas in advance ;-) * slef holds out more work for miniman to walk into * slef waits to see if he does ...no, he didn't quite. ;-) -- MJR

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Work
by tom potts 17 Jan '01

17 Jan '01

Hope this doesnt offend too many but the mailing list seems to be used for general rambling so: n agency phoned me last nite looking for someone with NT networking experience to go to a company with 5 or 6 Unix pcs and expand the network to ~120 pcs suposedly running Windows with NT control. A suitable candidate would have a free hand so you might be able to Linux/Star Office the whole thing.... I think the work is in Herts and for 30k+. If your interested and I'll 'introduce' you Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Forthcoming Events: UKUUG Conference (LISA) & DNS Tutorial
by MJ Ray 17 Jan '01

17 Jan '01

Events info... Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:32:06 +0000 From: Alasdair G Kergon <agk(a)ukuug.org> The emphasis at this year's UK Unix User Group's Winter Conference is the administration of large computer systems/networks. The conference will take place in Newcastle, beginning after lunch on Thurs 8th February and ending over lunch on Friday 9th February, 2001. Immediately preceding the conference, there will be a tutorial on upgrading from Bind 8 to Bind 9. The programme includes: The Design and Implementation of Highly Scalable Email Systems - Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynew SA/NV The Design and Architecture of a Robust Global DNS Infrastructure, GNS - Jim Reid, Nominum Inc. The Design and Implementation of a large DHCP system - Anton Holleman, Atos Origin IBM Mainframe Hardware from a Linux Hacker's Viewpoint - Malcolm Beattie, University of Oxford E-Commerce in Miniature: The Network Connection Booking System at Brunel University - Andrew Findlay, Skills 1st Ltd Managing Coursework using the Web: The Newcastle Electronic Submission System - Lindsay Marshall, University of Newcastle-upon-Tyne Wireless Ethernet @ 11Mbps - Stuart McRobert, Imperial College How traditional security measures will shape up in the 21st century - Andrew Cormack, UKERNA For further details see: http://www.ukuug.org/events/newcastle_2001/ Booking Deadline: 2nd Feb 2001. (Capacity limited: please reserve your place ASAP!) ++++++ The summer Linux Developers' Conference is scheduled for Manchester, Fri 29th June to Sun 1st July. ++++++ Linux Expo is currently being planned for Weds 4th - Thurs 5th July in London. http://www.itevents.co.uk/exhibitions/ ++++++ LinuxTag takes place in Stuttgart (Germany) 5th-8th July 2001. This is now believed to be the world's largest Linux exhibition outside New York - and it's free! http://www.linuxtag.org/2001/english/ ++++++ Alasdair -- agk(a)ukuug.org -- MJR

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UK Linux Day: mailing list
by MJ Ray 16 Jan '01

16 Jan '01

Please subscribe if you're intending to help in a big way. If a few of us subscribe, it'll make it easier to keep ALUG informed (ie you don't just rely on my (lack of) free time). If you just want to help on the day, you're welcome to join or not as you see fit. Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:10:49 +0000 From: Alasdair Kergon <agk(a)oxlug.org> Subject: UK Linux Day: mailing list I have created a majordomo list for Steve Nice: linuxday(a)lists.lug.org.uk for the discussion & planning of UK Linux Day, Sunday 29th April 2001. Preliminary website: http://www.linuxday.org.uk/ If you or members of your LUG might consider organising something locally that day, send 'subscribe linuxday' to 'majordomo(a)lists.lug.org.uk'. Alasdair -- agk(a)oxlug.org -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] New ALUG Website: Call For Articles & Assistance
by MJ Ray 16 Jan '01

16 Jan '01

paul(a)paulrussell.cjb.net writes: > >Also on the readership front, LUG.org.uk is looking at how they can > >pass articles between LUGs, so there should be a bigger audience than > >just our 100 or so. > How are they looking at doing this mark? The Right Way? Yes, if I have anything to do with it. (Assuming passing XML metadata between hosts and aggregating at each stage is The Right Way. Only metadata, so that we can accurately(!) report readership figures for articles.) -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] New ALUG Website: Call For Articles & Assistance
by MJ Ray 16 Jan '01

16 Jan '01

Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com writes: > Mark - always happy to help if i can, but no experience of websites, very > new to linux OS, and live a fair distance from Norwich (Cambridge). Also > work full time, play in a band, and look after two young children, so > pretty busy. But if you want something done, ask a busy > person................let me know if i can do anything remotely, with such > limited credentials. > Jenny. As ever (and this applies to everyone), it depends what you want to write about. Even so-called "lifestyle" pieces about your setup in general or what you perceive to be a niche interest are interesting and useful, because out there somewhere is someone who'll find themselves in a similar situation and they can learn from your experience. For example, I'm interested in computer-controlled/synthesized music, but I never have time to download and test Linux music software, so I'd reat articles on that. That's just an example, not a request for an article! Also on the readership front, LUG.org.uk is looking at how they can pass articles between LUGs, so there should be a bigger audience than just our 100 or so. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Next meet ???
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 15 Jan '01

15 Jan '01

>........................the "Fast Trax" off road biking and 4x4 place, which I haven't had chance to sample yet. Great! Another linux using biker!

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Next meet ???
by Simon Parkes 15 Jan '01

15 Jan '01

Hi Guy's n Ladies? I'm new to the Anglia area, just moved into Red Lodge (real sprawling metropolis!!). Been using Linux, both in comercially and private environments and was wondering when the next meet is and where? I've got a couple of Netfinity 4500's a Netfinity 5500, couple of PC300GL's all running RH6.0 -> 6.2, various cisco switches and a couple of routers to have a play with that I could bring along... Simon

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Re: [Alug] Next meet ???
by MJ Ray 14 Jan '01

14 Jan '01

"Simon Parkes" <simon.parkes(a)ukonline.co.uk> writes: > Fair enough David, was a bit boring, but this equipment is required when > you manage a server farm, monitoring around 300 machines, running various > strains of web servers etc (Won't go into details this time). Just though > that some people arn't lucky enough to have this sort of equipment available > to have a look at or mess around with. SO be it.. Maybe it's just my email screwing up, but I didn't see the original message, so I'm assuming it was a private one. Although I've been imploring people to "reply to all", sending responses to private messages in public is still a bit taboo... ...and FWIW, I'd be quite interested to see some Netfinity kit one of these days, besides the adverts I'm always getting bombarded with. As people know, while working for the Union, I was trying to work wonders with obsolete kit (and *usually* succeeding), but I'm hoping to have decent things to play with this year (not for the Union, although TSW have just got quite a fun desktop box, eh Brett?) ;-) Anyway, let's try not to be too harsh. If you don't like something someone says, don't answer it... survival of the interesting, not flames... -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Next meet ???
by David Freeman 14 Jan '01

14 Jan '01

Sorry, I didn't mean it quite like that. I was just curious why someone had cisco routers at what I assumed, wrongly, was home, but it would appear they are not used for a simple home network, but more a server farm. sorry if I didn't get this across first time. Following on from this tho, It would be interesting to see this kit at the next meet. Also out of interest what is the cisco kit you have? Thanks D --- Simon Parkes <simon.parkes(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: > Fair enough David, was a bit boring, but this equipment is > required when > you manage a server farm, monitoring around 300 machines, running > various > strains of web servers etc (Won't go into details this time). Just > though > that some people arn't lucky enough to have this sort of equipment > available > to have a look at or mess around with. SO be it.. > > Simon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> > To: <simon.parkes(a)ukonline.co.uk> > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 7:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Alug] Next meet ??? > > > > > > --- Simon Parkes < > wrote: > > > Hi Guy's n Ladies? > > > > > > I'm new to the Anglia area, just moved into Red Lodge (real > sprawling > > > metropolis!!). Been using Linux, both in comercially and private > > > environments and was wondering when the next meet is and where? > I've > > > got a > > > couple of Netfinity 4500's a Netfinity 5500, couple of PC300GL's > all > > > running > > > RH6.0 -> 6.2, various cisco switches and a couple of routers to > have > > > a play > > > with that I could bring along... > > > > Someones showing off :o) > > > > Well I've got... boring > > > > Just out of interest what is it you use this lot for? > > > > Thanks > > > > D > > > > > Simon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] Next meet ???
by Simon Parkes 14 Jan '01

14 Jan '01

Fair enough David, was a bit boring, but this equipment is required when you manage a server farm, monitoring around 300 machines, running various strains of web servers etc (Won't go into details this time). Just though that some people arn't lucky enough to have this sort of equipment available to have a look at or mess around with. SO be it.. Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> To: <simon.parkes(a)ukonline.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [Alug] Next meet ??? > > --- Simon Parkes <> wrote: > > Hi Guy's n Ladies? > > > > I'm new to the Anglia area, just moved into Red Lodge (real sprawling > > metropolis!!). Been using Linux, both in comercially and private > > environments and was wondering when the next meet is and where? I've > > got a > > couple of Netfinity 4500's a Netfinity 5500, couple of PC300GL's all > > running > > RH6.0 -> 6.2, various cisco switches and a couple of routers to have > > a play > > with that I could bring along... > > Someones showing off :o) > > Well I've got... boring > > Just out of interest what is it you use this lot for? > > Thanks > > D > > > Simon > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > > Send list replies to alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ >

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Re: [Alug] Next meet ???
by MJ Ray 14 Jan '01

14 Jan '01

When I last bumped into John on IRC (eu.openprojects.net #alug), he suggested Feb 3rd as a possible date for a meeting at Syleham (nice venue details page on new website as soon as it appears). How does that grab people? Is that a possibility, John? Another meeting is pencilled in for UEA on "UK Linux Day", 29th April, which should be a huge installfest with demos. More on that as and when I know it. Initial dayglo website at http://www.linuxday.org.uk/ and that's another one needing help. If you can help with it, get in touch with me and I'll pass the offers on. Corporate members with time (are there any?), I suspect you could probably snarf an ad slot in return. I'd like to see a meeting organised for March and, personally, I'd love to go somewhere new. Anyone able to get a venue and pull it together? (Note: people have chipped in for venues that cost money in the past...) -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Distro's, Hardware and Gaming
by MJ Ray 14 Jan '01

14 Jan '01

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > How would I know weather or not it is loaded? I have /dev/video > /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 are these the cards? lsmod (usually in /sbin) shows what modules are currently loaded. Beyond that, you're way out of my league ;-) -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Distro's, Hardware and Gaming
by David Freeman 13 Jan '01

13 Jan '01

--- Steven Fosdick <fozzy(a)pelvoux.demon.co.uk> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 09:06:43AM -0800, David Freeman wrote: > > > Which Distro would people recommend for ease of install and > > maintainance, also are there any which install the bttv driver as > > default? > > The bttv driver is part of the standard kernel source distribution so > I would be surpised to find it missing from any major distribution. > I > would also expect that most distributions would have it as a loadable > module rather than permanently linked into the kernel. How would I know weather or not it is loaded? I have /dev/video /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 are these the cards? > .... > > > Can I drive the old matrox mystique with the new Geforce at the > same > > time in the same PC? > > Probably. > > X is unlikely to have a problem with this but there may be a catch or > two. As you probably know there are several different X display > servers in XFree86 and which you use depends on the chipsets. Reading a faq on XFree86 4.* it mentioned how it was possible to load module/drivers in dynamically? any suggestions? > If the GeForce card requires different X server from the Mystique > then > you'll have to run one copy of each and the problem then will be how > to share the mouse and keyboard because in X terms you have two > different displays (an X display comprises a screen, mouse and > keyboard). A second mouse is know problem But i don't think i could have a second keyboard, else this wouldn't be a problem. > If they use the same X server then you may be able to configure it so > that there are two screens but only one display and the mouse and > keyboard will then work with eithers screen. Where would I configure them? > The other problem is that one of the cards has to be told not to > implement the standard VGA text mode but to only come to life when it > is switches to frame buffer mode. The VGA text mode uses a specific > part of the address space so if two cards competer for it there will > be trouble. is it not possible to have two consoles? > Another possibility is to make the Mystique the system console, > enable > the kernel framebuffer drivver and then use fbtv to watch TV rather > than an X based client. This might work, I'll investigate this further. Thanks D > Steve. > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Send list replies to alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Distro's, Hardware and Gaming
by David Freeman 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

Having Just ordered a hardware upgrade for my aging 200mhz K2, I was thinking I might treat my self to a decent graphics card at the same time. So I have a couple of questions. Which Distro would people recommend for ease of install and maintainance, also are there any which install the bttv driver as default? Is the GeForce 2 chipset supported under linux? What are there in the way of Linux games available? Can I drive the old matrox mystique with the new Geforce at the same time in the same PC? Thanks D __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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Kernel-2.4.0
by Earl Brannigan 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

Hi All, I've only just joined ALUG, so a quick intro: My name is Earl Brannigan, I work near Newmarket for a small software house and eventually convinced the boss after much effort to go Linux, Now he loves it and we've put together some nice stuff on Linux Web Servers (Not our own page yet mind). But I am now pretty proficient with apache, security etc so we'll see. I run Linux at home - Red-Hat 6-2, and have been doing pretty well with it - until 4am some nights. So here's the problem : Wanting to use my 56k Internal Hardware PCI Modem I eagerly awaited kernel-2.4, and was probably one of the first to grab it from kernel.org in the early morning of Jan 6th. I then spent some time finding and installing the necessary support stuff - especially ppp-2.4. Now having built the kernel, installed the necessary other stuff etc my ppp refuses to work - I get the dial out, the PAP works, then nothing (BTW - My machine is much faster with the new kernel, and the PCI probing etc has improved the functionality of my soundcard - it also talks to my motherboard better (VIA Apollo) and uses my Celery Processor to the max). Looking through the logs I am getting unfound modules for ppp (I also installed modutils-2.4 and ksymoops-2.4) Am I missing something? I use either kppp or rp3 to take care of the connection, which also utilize wvdial I think. Do I need to recompile these packages from source in order to utilize the new ppp libraries? Or do I have to wait for updated versions to be released. If so how do I utilize pppd without them? If anyone has any thoughts/suggestions just push em through, or if you need other info I'd be glad to supply it. Just let me know. Many Thanks. Happy Linuxing Earl

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Re: [Alug] New ALUG Website: Call For Articles & Assistance
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

Mark - always happy to help if i can, but no experience of websites, very new to linux OS, and live a fair distance from Norwich (Cambridge). Also work full time, play in a band, and look after two young children, so pretty busy. But if you want something done, ask a busy person................let me know if i can do anything remotely, with such limited credentials. Jenny.

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New ALUG Website: Call For Articles & Assistance
by MJ Ray 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

Hi, At long last the Great Website Renovation is done. We should be on Martyn's host and fully operation in a few days, and I think that includes email redirectors for anyone that wants them (right Martyn?). In the short term, I need your help to make the site more substantial. From the old site, we have: - Contact details page - Mailing list sign-up and archive - Meetings information for the first five - Meeting venues information (in the next day or two) This is a general call for articles on any Linux-related topic. You can provide them in a number of ways, including marked up into very simple XML (much simpler than HTML), or just by making text and graphics available to me somehow. Personally, I am particularly interested in having the following: - Meetings information for the rest (mailing list+memory, anyone?) - Articles from a new user's point of view - Reviews of some Linux Games - Pointers to new-user information but this is not a concrete list, so feel free to discuss them or suggest other ideas to the mailing list. I'm also *desperate* for more people to help with the site. Workload should be minimal and everything should be as easy as possible now (at last!), but it was some time since I asked and I don't know how situations have changes, so I'm asking again. Looking forward to your replies! -- MJR

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List Administrivia: replies
by MJ Ray 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

I've noticed that reply-tos are currently being mangled. This will cease effective immediate, so please hit "REPLY TO ALL" if you want to send your reply to the mailing list. The footer has changed to remind people. For a summary of reasons, see the essay at http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.htm -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Distro's, Hardware and Gaming
by David Freeman 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

--- Adam Bower <abower(a)zeus.com> wrote: > > > David Freeman wrote: > > > > > Is the GeForce 2 chipset supported under linux? > > > My GeForce GTS 2 is fine although I did have problems getting 3d > DRI > > > working, and have since broke it again. > > > > What was the problem? > > The drivers are binary only (no source) and they can be a little > tricky > to get right, but I was using a hacked about version of Xfree 4.0 and > various reasons. I do know one of our developers has hacked around > the > kernel and various other bits with kernel 2.4.0 to get it working > correctly... I also seem to remember that the instructions are > slightly > wrong and I had a library in the wrong place that upset everything. I > may be doing a re-install of Debian soon (if i can be bothered) and > will > have to get it all working again so I will make some notes. > > Adam OK. Thanks D __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] Distro's, Hardware and Gaming
by David Freeman 11 Jan '01

11 Jan '01

--- Adam Bower <abower(a)zeus.com> wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, David Freeman wrote: > > > Which Distro would people recommend for ease of install and > > maintainance, also are there any which install the bttv driver as > > default? > I think SuSE has the bttv driver as a module but then most distro's > will. > I prefer Debian as although some people claim it is harder to install > than > most other distro's, but I found it to be the easiest to get things > working with. Alot of people say debian is very good, I have installed it on a sun IPX and it seamed quite good. I'm just looking for a distro I can control what it puts on the system and one which will configure all my hardware out the box, My current distro, Peanut, recognised most of my hardware straight away, I had to edit rc.modules to add the correct module for the zip drive. Unfortunatly it didn't do my TV card. > > Is the GeForce 2 chipset supported under linux? > My GeForce GTS 2 is fine although I did have problems getting 3d DRI > working, and have since broke it again. What was the problem? > > What are there in the way of Linux games available? > Quake III nuff said although you should look at www.lokigames.com as > they > have a very good selection. Cheers, alot of people mentioned these. Soldier of fortune looks good, very tempted. Unfortunatly I just bought a new CPU, motherboard and memory,(Scan.co.uk were doing a special offer) > > Can I drive the old matrox mystique with the new Geforce at the > same > > time in the same PC? > If it is a PCI card then maybe yes, but I think you will have to buy > an > X-server that would work with this although it may work in windows. > (I may > be completly wrong with these comments though) To describe my intentions in a bit more detail. I have a room that is 7'*7' My intention was to have a 17" monitor on my desk connected to the Geforce card, This I would use for most stuff like games etc... on the other side of the room I was going to put my old 15" monitor so I can use it for watching TV in bed. So I only really want the second card to work with the BTTV card as a TV. Thanks D > Adam <sig snipped> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] Distro's, Hardware and Gaming
by David Freeman 11 Jan '01

11 Jan '01

--- Paul Tansom <paul(a)whaletales.co.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, David Freeman wrote: > > Having Just ordered a hardware upgrade for my aging 200mhz K2, I > was > > thinking I might treat my self to a decent graphics card at the > same > > time. So I have a couple of questions. > > > > Which Distro would people recommend for ease of install and > > maintainance, also are there any which install the bttv driver as > > default? > > I'm just about to make the switch to Debian, so if you are looking to > try a > distro based on this check out Storm - it has a less complex install > than the > raw Debian, but is pretty true to its roots. I haven't tried it yet, > but > apt-get is supposed to be a very nice means of installing updates. apt-get sounds similair to the pkg management tool under freebsd which would download the required packages when you want to install them. > > Is the GeForce 2 chipset supported under linux? > > > > What are there in the way of Linux games available? > > Check out http://www.lokigames.com/ Drool........... > > Can I drive the old matrox mystique with the new Geforce at the > same > > time in the same PC? > > Assuming that you can run the GeForce chipset (not sure, haven't used > it > myself) you can run two cards with Xfree86 - so long as you have a > spare > monitor ;-) I quite like the idea of running an old 14" screen to > watch logs > in when I am developing code, but I don't have the space for the > extra screen > :-( I saw something on this only the other day, I just can't > remember where... > don't you just wish you could grep magazines sometimes! Can I run two cards with different chipsets? Thanks D PS I like the sig > --- > Paul Tansom: Talking to penguins can be inTUXicating, whereas > talking to windows is only 1 step away from talking to the wall! <remaining sig snipped> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] Distro's, Hardware and Gaming
by David Freeman 11 Jan '01

11 Jan '01

--- Adam Bower <abower(a)zeus.com> wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Paul Tansom wrote: > > > I'm just about to make the switch to Debian, so if you are looking > to try a > > distro based on this check out Storm - it has a less complex > install than the > > raw Debian, but is pretty true to its roots. I haven't tried it > yet, but > > apt-get is supposed to be a very nice means of installing updates. > I have tried Storm and the main thing that got me was the free > version > (non-retail) does not have as many packages as true Debian but you > could > add the Debian mirrors to your sources.list file. I'll check out out storm tomorrow. A friend has a copy of redhat which I'm going to give a go at tomorrow night. > > Assuming that you can run the GeForce chipset (not sure, haven't > used it > > myself) you can run two cards with Xfree86 - so long as you have a > spare > > monitor ;-) I quite like the idea of running an old 14" screen to > watch logs > > in when I am developing code, but I don't have the space for the > extra screen > > :-( I saw something on this only the other day, I just can't > remember where... > > don't you just wish you could grep magazines sometimes! > Now that is cool, I may have a look at that later on although finding > space for a spare monitor will also be a problem for me :-( I see what you mean, and I have a 7'*7' room which I have to sleep in as well!!! > A quick search on www.google.com with the terms "" returned some promising results. Some interesting results, I'll have a closer look when I get more time. Thanks to every one for replying D > Adam > -- > Adam Bower, <abower(a)zeus.com> Tel: +44 1223 525000 <sig snipped> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] Distro's, Hardware and Gaming
by David Freeman 11 Jan '01

11 Jan '01

I also like the good 'ol games. I have fond memorys of chucky egg on the BBC, which I still have and will one day connect to my linux network :o), I quite like the idea of porting it to linux, but thats abit beyond my level ATM. Space invaders, Snake and hardball/breakout are all good for winding down. The other classics I quite like are Duke nukem 3d, doom trilogy, and a friend has got me into playing Rogue spear on his PC. I may as yet treat my self to Soldier of fortune, one day :-) Thanks D --- MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > > > What are there in the way of Linux games available? > > Well, I'm quite into simpler games, so these probably won't be to > everyone's taste, but I enjoy XBlast and many of the libSDL games. > Not much more advanced than your original consoles, but I find them > fun. I don't think I've actually any games installed right now. I > must put that right. > -- > MJR > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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