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MA FUD
by Green, James M K 25 Oct '99

25 Oct '99

I'm reading through the responses now. OK, I think comment number 71 is enough... Er, yeah, so, not one mention of praise for the article, in fact a lot of calls for staff resignations in the ed dept., no-one can believe his claim to be a "network administrator", and errily enough, a large number of responses from people who run Linux themselves. This leads me onto an interesting question: just how many Windows admins and suchlike actually have Linux installed at home? Seems to be quite a few, judging from the responses on this NT-orientated site. I'd hazard an unqualified guess that the recent estimates of Linux installations totalling between seven and twelve million is now grossely out of date. If I were to stick my neck out and give a figure, I'd say 15 million might even be conservative. Unfortuantely, its inherently impossible to give an accurate figure. > -----Original Message----- > From: Laurie Brown [mailto:laurie@brownowl.com] > Sent: 24 October 1999 17:50 > To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > Subject: [alug] MA FUD > > > http://www.winntmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7420 > > Total bollocks. More pro-MS FUD. I never had any of that shit when I > installed SuSE5.3 the first time, and that was bloody ages > ago. 6.2 is a > piece of piss. Clearly, the bloke has zero IT skills... > > IMO, anyone with even a small breadth of IT skills should be > able to get > SuSE up-and-running with X and an internet connection inside > 45 mins. It > saddens me to see people blame Linux for their own > inadequacies, AND to > parade it as "evidence" that MS is better... > > Cheers, Laurie. > > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] > [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] > [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] > [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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MA FUD
by Laurie Brown 24 Oct '99

24 Oct '99

http://www.winntmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7420 Total bollocks. More pro-MS FUD. I never had any of that shit when I installed SuSE5.3 the first time, and that was bloody ages ago. 6.2 is a piece of piss. Clearly, the bloke has zero IT skills... IMO, anyone with even a small breadth of IT skills should be able to get SuSE up-and-running with X and an internet connection inside 45 mins. It saddens me to see people blame Linux for their own inadequacies, AND to parade it as "evidence" that MS is better... Cheers, Laurie. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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RFD: A newsreader
by Green J M K 23 Oct '99

23 Oct '99

Hi all, I'm about to start my final year project: a newsreader for the KDE project. I've used Microplanet Gravity on Windows which is just brilliant, and I'd like to approach something like this in my project. But before I get started I'd like you lot to advise me on: - what you'd like - what you'd need - likewise for dislike/don't need I'm away this weekend from e-mail (I'll be meeting you guys!) so unless I read mail this afternoon, I'll be responding next week. James Green [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Linux Answers
by Brett Parker 20 Oct '99

20 Oct '99

Has any1 heard anymore about this? Brett [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG 4
by Green, James M K 20 Oct '99

20 Oct '99

> Why can't there ever be a meet at Essex Uni btw? The question is more: - do we have a room with network points large enough - do we have to pay I'll investigate with out security guys (who let out the rooms) and the Comp Sci dept, but I wouldn't be too hopefull. James Green Essex Uni. > Miles > easier for me to > get to (being located in Luton unfortunanatly atm). Just a > thought. The > Woodbridge ones are easy enough for me too (living near > Ipswich when at > home). > > Dan > > On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Green, James M K wrote: > > > > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, MJ Ray wrote: > > > > > > > (Debian CDs sure to be present) > > > > > > I'll burn RH6.1 too. > > > > I have a possible three other people down here who might > ask for one too. > > > > James Green > > > > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] > > [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] > > [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] > > [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] > > > > > > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] > [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] > [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] > [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] > [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG 4
by John Woodard 19 Oct '99

19 Oct '99

Is the meet still on for Sunday @ UEA? If it is could one of you kind souls give me assistance in getting lpr/ghostscript to print to my little Canon Bubble Jet? And if anybody has been able to cook a RH 6.1 onto a CD I would be eternally greatful for a copy. Cheers for now, BJ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG 4
by Phil Lee 19 Oct '99

19 Oct '99

I was just at a talk by Richard Stallman (president of the FSF) and I am now of the opinion we should all use Debian. Phil -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Savory [SMTP:A.Savory@uea.ac.uk] Sent: 19 October 1999 17:08 To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk Subject: [alug] ALUG 4 On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, MJ Ray wrote: > (Debian CDs sure to be present) I'll burn RH6.1 too. Andrew. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- A.Savory at uea.ac.uk All views are my own - who else would want them? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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SSH in User Directory
by Green, James M K 18 Oct '99

18 Oct '99

> This may seem obvious, but just check that the downloads > directory exists > - some make install routines don't check, and consiquently > cockup if it's > missing. It definetely exists. Any more ideas? James Green [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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SSH in User Directory
by Green, James M K 16 Oct '99

16 Oct '99

Hi guys, I'm having trouble installing SSH into my university Home Directory (~). I've got the ssh-1.27 sources, and configured with ./configure --prefix=~/downloads/ssh --with-etcdir=~/downloads/ssh/etc It builds fine, but errors on make install. Originally it failed because --with-etcdir specified hasd no effect in the Makefile, so I manually edited it so that all paths were ~/downloads/ssh and then re-ran it, but once again I get an error, this time: [ ... ] chmod 755 ~/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh1 chmod: ~/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh1: No such file or directory make: [install] Error 1 (ignored) chmod 755 ~/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh chmod: ~/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh: No such file or directory make: [install] Error 1 (ignored) mv ~/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh1 ~/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh1.old mv: ~/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh1: No such file or directory make: [install] Error 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/install -c -o root -m 04711 ssh ~/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh1 /usr/bin/install: ~/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh1: No such file or directory make: *** [install] Error 1 Of course the file doesn't exist. I just tried also configuring with disable-setuid or whatever it's called and this happens: rm -f /ufs/csugc/users/jmkgre/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh1.old chmod 755 /ufs/csugc/users/jmkgre/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh1 chmod: /ufs/csugc/users/jmkgre/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh1: No such file or directory make: [install] Error 1 (ignored) chmod 755 /ufs/csugc/users/jmkgre/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh chmod: /ufs/csugc/users/jmkgre/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh: No such file or directory make: [install] Error 1 (ignored) mv /ufs/csugc/users/jmkgre/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh1 /ufs/csugc/users/jmkgre/downlo ads/ssh/bin/ssh1.old mv: /ufs/csugc/users/jmkgre/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh1: No such file or directory make: [install] Error 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/install -c -o root -m 0711 ssh /ufs/csugc/users/jmkgre/downloads/ssh/bi n/ssh1 /usr/bin/install: /ufs/csugc/users/jmkgre/downloads/ssh/bin/ssh1: Operation not permitted make: *** [install] Error 1 It clearly like to be root and nothing else. Can anyone offer any ideas? My house telco line isn't installed until Tuesday week and I have a server in the US needing some attention that requires ssh to login. James Green [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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ALUG4
by James Green 11 Oct '99

11 Oct '99

OK, confirm me as coming, without equipment :( Can someone bring along a few RH6.1 CDs? Regards, James Green Term e-mail: jmkgre(a)essex.ac.uk | Home e-mail: jg(a)cyberstorm.demon.co.uk Homepage: http://www.cyberstorm.demon.co.uk [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Dial-in and X
by Laurie Brown 11 Oct '99

11 Oct '99

Ok folks, quick question. I succeeded in making a linux box a dial-in system, and it authenticates and all that a treat. However, I want to telnet in over the dialled-in connection, and can't, and I want to use X (X-Win32) and can't. I'm sure I'm forgetting something simple, but can't think what. Clues gratefully received! Cheers, Laurie. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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[Newbie question - what video card to buy?
by John Heaser 09 Oct '99

09 Oct '99

I am hoping to get to grips with Linux by using an Evesham Pentium Pro 200 PC. I have pinched the Video card to drive a second monitor on my W98 PC so have to buy a new card. Mainly for business applications but I might play the occasional game. Any suggestions for a Linux supported card please? Also any suggestions for a basic sound card and 10BaseT network card. I have Red Hat 5.2. -- Thanks John Heaser [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Check this old bollocks out!
by Laurie Brown 08 Oct '99

08 Oct '99

http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/news/msnw/LinuxMyths.asp [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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[Fwd: Linux Expo 99]
by Laurie Brown 07 Oct '99

07 Oct '99

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Provisional ALUG4
by MJ Ray 07 Oct '99

07 Oct '99

Hi all, It's all gone a bit mad here, but I've managed (finally) to book a room for ALUG4 on Sunday 24 October, from 1400->1700 (presumably heading for the bar afterwards as usual). It's only the same room as last time, but I'm hoping to prepare our external network connection in advance this time. MJR [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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AHA-2930 driver
by Raphael Mankin 06 Oct '99

06 Oct '99

CAn anyone point me at a driver for the Adaptec 2930CU scsi card? The AIC-7xxx *ought* to work with minor mods, but has anyone made those mods? Wwhere can I find the driver? -- Politics: The conduct of public affairs for private advantage Ambrose Bierce Raphael Mankin E-Mail: raph(a)panache.demon.co.uk ---------------------------------- [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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new linux company to be based in Norwich
by paul stiles 06 Oct '99

06 Oct '99

Hello We are to develop a series of mass user content driven (with editorial control) internet start ups in the uk/norwich, using open source on the linux platform, we are struggling to find a particular solution to one of our needs, ie content management. do you know of any open soure software that is similar or close to the following CM software http://www.eprise.com/products/ any help would be greatly appreciated, there may be other reasons to talk/meet soon. Regards Paul Stiles

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linux.org
by jg＠cyberstorm.demon.co.uk 05 Oct '99

05 Oct '99

OK, accidently went to linux.org, clicked the LUGs list, and didn't find us on the English list. Anyone want to fill in the form (Mark)? -- James Green jg(a)cyberstorm.demon.co.uk Site Manager jg(a)linuxnewbie.com LinuxNewbie.com LNC http://www.cyberstorm.demon.co.uk/ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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PRESS RELEASE: Announcing LinuxNewbie.com web portal
by jg＠cyberstorm.demon.co.uk 05 Oct '99

05 Oct '99

Plug time (grin): NEW WEBSITE PORTAL FOR LINUX NEWCOMERS ANNOUNCED SUNNYVALE, CA - September 29, 1999 - As more and more industry-leading companies such as Corel Computer, IBM and Sun Microsystems back the Open Source Operating System Linux, an alternative to Microsoft Windows, a new web portal site is today announced targetting those new to the Linux and Open Source world. LinuxNewbie.com - "LNC", spearheaded by British webmaster James Green and a team of volunteers worldwide, aims to introduce the public to the new OS, and guide them through the various aspects of the system from the many situations in which Linux can be used - both in the server and desktop environments. LNC will contain regularly updated reviews and previews on current and forthcoming software, Features covering specialist topics such as networking and security, a comprehensive searchable database of problems and solutions, Opinion columns from staff and visitor-submissions, Tutorials covering popular software, a forum where new users can ask their questions and view answers over the web, a regularly updated news facility and much more. Site Manager James Green said today, "LNC will we hope provide a leading source of news, information and guidance to the many new Linux users out there. We also understand that while many people may have used Microsoft Windows OSes before, many may not have, and so our content will not be focused solely on Windows to Linux transitions - it will cover all backgrounds and should provide a useful insight into Linux for those who are still thinking of installing it." LNC has the support of leading Linux solutions-provider VA Linux Systems, Inc. who are providing the facilities at no cost to make the site possible. James Green added, "As a project aimed at the Open Source community, we welcome the involvement of the public in making the web site as friendly and comprehensive as possible, therefore applications from visitors to assist us in achieving this will be encouraged together with regular feedback." The site will launch during October. About LNC LNC is a non-profit project staffed by a team of volunteers around the world led by Site Manager James Green to create and expand the portal website LinuxNewbie.com to the benefit of newcomers to Linux and Open Source community software. It aims to provide helpful and friendly advice and support to all those who need it wherever they may be. LNC can be found at http://LinuxNewbie.com/ or by email to feedback(a)linuxnewbie.com. About VA Linux Systems VA Linux Systems is a leading provider of Linux computer systems, support and Internet services. VA is a pioneer in providing high performance workstations and servers to enterprises, service providers and technical computing markets and is at the forefront of the open source revolution. VA also sponsors Linux.com, a leading Linux portal developed and maintained by members of the Linux community. Based in Sunnyvale, Calif., the privately held company has gained a reputation for innovation and responsiveness that is making it a leader in full service Linux solutions. For more information contact VA at http://www.valinux.com, 888-LINUX-4U or by sending email to sales(a)valinux.com. Contact: James Green Site Manager, LinuxNewbie.com - LNC jg(a)linuxnewbie.com VA Linux Systems Eureka Endo, 408/542-5754 eureka(a)valinux.com -- James Green jg(a)cyberstorm.demon.co.uk Site Manager jg(a)linuxnewbie.com LinuxNewbie.com LNC http://www.cyberstorm.demon.co.uk/ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Off-topic: Good Solaris guide?
by Martyn Drake 30 Sep '99

30 Sep '99

Off-topic, I know, but does anybody know of a decent web site with a guide to Sun Solaris 5.7? There are certain elements that I just can't seem to find under Solaris which are readily available under Linux and want to know if they have Solaris equivelents.. Thanks, Martyn [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Off-topic: Good Solaris guide?
by Andrew.Chandler＠ft.com 30 Sep '99

30 Sep '99

Martyn, http://www.SunFreeware.com/ has lots of Solaris Package files of various GNU utilities that are standard on most Linux distros but are lacking on Solaris. Also have a look at http://www.SolarisCentral.org/ as it has pointers to all things Solaris. Andi Martyn Drake <martyn.drake(a)anglian.lug.org.uk> on 09/30/99 09:56:30 AM To: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk cc: (bcc: Andrew Chandler/PSD/LONDON/FTI) Subject: [alug] Off-topic: Good Solaris guide? Off-topic, I know, but does anybody know of a decent web site with a guide to Sun Solaris 5.7? There are certain elements that I just can't seem to find under Solaris which are readily available under Linux and want to know if they have Solaris equivelents.. Thanks, Martyn [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ] ********************************************************************* * Please visit the web site of the Financial Times at: * * http://www.ft.com * * * * This E-Mail is intended for the use of the addressee only and may * * contain confidential information. If you are not the intended * * recipient, you are hereby notified that any use or dissemination * * of this communication is strictly prohibited. * * * * If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us * * immediately then delete this E-Mail. * * * * * postmaster(a)ft.com * ********************************************************************* [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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scp/ssh help needed
by jg＠cyberstorm.demon.co.uk 27 Sep '99

27 Sep '99

OK this sucks big time... Here I am (right now), using scp to upload a small (1KB) index.php file to a webserver in the States run by VA (see below). I watch the initial upload, then all goes quiet indefinetly. I've tried many times without success. I've had it suggested that the server may be doing a reverse dns lookup on my, yet nslookup <myip> works fine. Any ideas, only watching a 1KB upload for more than five/ten minutes gets boring... Please? -- James Green jg(a)cyberstorm.demon.co.uk Site Manager jg(a)linuxnewbie.com LinuxNewbie.com LNC http://www.cyberstorm.demon.co.uk/ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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LAN Party at Melton Grange (yes, it's ALUG-related)
by Laurie Brown 24 Sep '99

24 Sep '99

This may not appear to be ALUG-related, but it is... We've got a major LAN party planned for 21/22 Jan 2000, which is a Friday and Saturday. The main games will be Half-Life (inc TFC) and Quake3, servers for which run on Linux. We're expecting over a hundred people, and expect to need a minimum of 8 servers, possibly 9 or 10. There may be an NT box required for Tiberian Sun and so forth (no Linux servers). The purpose of this mail is: a) do any of you lot fancy coming? b) do you know anyone prepared to lend a server(s)/100mb network hubs? c) are any of you prepared to help technically? Cheers, Laurie. [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Showing an X window on Win98 desktop
by cuba＠globalnet.co.uk 22 Sep '99

22 Sep '99

I've heard this was possible and wanted to give it a try. Any idea where I can start? :-) ta Mark [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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Stupid Company Policy of the week
by jg＠cyberstorm.demon.co.uk 22 Sep '99

22 Sep '99

Well, I'm going to let off some steam. I'm on Demon, using the CWC 50p offer. I'm getting Star Office weighing in at around 70Mb. There's not much competition in the office world so I guess this is going to have to do. So I start downloading from the Amsterdam mirror. It stalls more than it comes down. I abort and try the US East Coast; this one's fast without stalling. Whoops. Netscape crashes at 15%, 3hrs 30mins to go. I go back to the website and try grabbing it again. Oh no! The webserver to manage download accounts is down. In dispair, I find sun.co.uk, a lovely fast mirror. But oh no - the Star Office download goes back to the US. Why? I try once again, and his time I'm not getting any response at all. In fact, a 503 Server Not Responding comes up. I hit reload a few times and am finally presented with a response: Your Session Has Expired. I have now written to Sun blasting them for not keeping sun.co.uk in the UK. It's diabolically stupid to maintain a mirror when critical parts are left in one country susceptable to crashes and downtime. If any of you are put into the position when you're asked to setup mirrors or something similar, think of my tale of woe and think harder than the people in management - do the right thing and mirror in full. grrrr. -- James Green jg(a)cyberstorm.demon.co.uk Site Manager jg(a)linuxnewbie.com LinuxNewbie.com LNC http://www.cyberstorm.demon.co.uk/ [ This email came to you via the Anglian Linux User Group list ] [ If you only wish to recieve event announcements, email the ] [ SUBJECTs of "unsubscribe alug" and "subscribe alug-announce" ] [ to listserver(a)stu.uea.ac.uk -- We do need your support, tho' ]

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