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Re: [ALUG] Mailing List Etiquette...
by Adam Bower 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

THANKS FOR THAT BRETT VERY USEFUL LINK TA! On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 01:03:46PM +0000, Brett Parker wrote: > Hi, > > Just thought that as we're getting a few more people joining the list, > it would be good to actually start documenting the mailing list > etiquette. > > So, I've started a magic page on our wiki, if people have more to add to > it, please feel free. > > The page is: > http://www.alug.org.uk/MailingListEtiquette > > Cheers, > -- > Brett Parker http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/ > PGP Fingerprint 1A9E C066 EDEE 6746 36CB BD7F 479E C24F 95C7 1D61 > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! -- New signature required, suggestions on a post card please.

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Re: [ALUG] R31 Sleep...Can We Resolve This
by Wayne Stallwood 16 Jan '11

16 Jan '11

On 15/01/11 21:48, Simon Royal wrote: > Wayne > > Setting my power management options to Suspend means my R31 wont wake > up. This is the problem I had before. > > This is why I had to use Hibernate as it will come back from that but > not Suspend. > Ahh ok, then you may want to google about a bit...a quick look around myself suggests that the R31 had problems even with some versions of Windows which were corrected with a BIOS update. The ubuntu forums might have something as well, look specific to the R31 and whatever version of Ubuntu you are on now you may find a fix. Whilst you have the browser open have a little look at http://www.alug.org.uk/MailingListEtiquette as well. I don't want to nag but top posting and then leaving the entire contents of the message you are replying to just makes it hard for others to dip into the conversation later. It becomes particularly important when someone later on is trying to make sense of the message in the archives.

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R31 Sleep...Can We Resolve This
by Simon Royal 15 Jan '11

15 Jan '11

Hi I have just about sorted all the problems out on my ThinkPad R31 under Ubuntu, except sleep. When I close the lid I want it to sleep and then wake when I open it. I have been playing with the different settings and cannot it to work as I would like, so I thought I would throw it over to you guys to see if you could help. Ive always worked on laptops and never come across this problem. Mac OSX is the fastest for coming back from sleep, you open the lid and within two or three seconds it is up and running - even on my old 10 year old G3 PowerBook it does it. Windows XP takes a bit longer and then you get faced with a log back in screen. I find it odd that my 10 year old G3 500Mhz Mac can come back from sleep within seconds but my sons 2.2Ghz P4 laptop takes about 20 seconds to get back. Ive run Ubuntu and various other buntu and non-bunto based distros on other hardware - x86 and PPC - and never had sleep problems like this. I had a ThinkPad 600 and 240x about a year ago and they just worked with sleep. Open the lid and it comes back on, sometimes faced with a log back in screen but it worked. So why can I not get this R31 to behave in a similar way? Why would a 600 and 240x have better power down support than this R31? If I press Fn+F4 it will go to sleep, but then coming back on takes a boot (bios splash, grub etc) and then you get the log back in screen. That is my work around at present. It is slightly faster than a full boot but still not that quick. My other option is for when the lid is shut just to blank the screen but that doesnt shut any hardware off or conserve battery life. My PowerBook can sleep for about 5 days and then open it up and bang, its back on again. Thats what I would like for my ThinkPad. I have my laptops running 24/7, I have never turned them off, just shut the lid and open it when I need it. So if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated. I must add, that this is a Ubuntu issue - or Linux issue - as XP sleeps and wakes correctly. Regards Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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Small Linux USB Wireless
by Simon Royal 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

Hi After recent problems with my PCMCIA wireless card I have switched to USB wireless. I have a Pluscom stick and it is quite big. Does anyone recommend a small one - Linux compatible - that doesn't stick out too much, this one I have is about two inches out the side. I like my Pluscom because you just plug it in and it works - as it a RaLink based one. Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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Mailing List Etiquette...
by Brett Parker 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

Hi, Just thought that as we're getting a few more people joining the list, it would be good to actually start documenting the mailing list etiquette. So, I've started a magic page on our wiki, if people have more to add to it, please feel free. The page is: http://www.alug.org.uk/MailingListEtiquette Cheers, -- Brett Parker http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/ PGP Fingerprint 1A9E C066 EDEE 6746 36CB BD7F 479E C24F 95C7 1D61

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Re: [ALUG] 10.10 Running Perfectly Well
by Simon Royal 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

Marcus I think my locking up problem was down to my wireless card. I have never had this happen before, it is a very reliable Edimax card. I had a Pluscom USB wireless stick floating around and that works out of the box too and so far it seems ok. Fingers crossed it seems ok. I have pulled out the power supply and put it in a number of times. I have also pulled the wireless stick out and put it back in a number of times and so far so good. Brilliant. It also mean I have a PCMCIA slot free for my USB 2 card when I need it. Simon On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Marcus Harris <runlevelten(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Simon, > > Hallelujah! > > I'm glad you've got this sorted out. > > By the way, thought I'd drop you a quick note - when you completely > change the subject line, you start a new thread in, well > all threaded mail readers, so we have all got (at least) 6 or 7 > threads on this one subject, and a few more on other problems with > your R31. > > Most reasonable list members would think this makes it a waste of time > to participate in any of them, as you have a bunch of different > threads on that one subject with one or two posts in them, and it > quickly becomes hard to track replies if the conversation gets large. > > Some people will also get annoyed by it enough to (eventually) filter > the offending poster out. > > Just mentioning this so you can have a couple of pointers that will > help you get more help, faster, with greater coherence, and not offend > some people's eyes. > > Glad you're sorted, > > Marcus > -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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Gnome 3 Requirements
by Simon Royal 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

Hi With the next version of Ubuntu schedule for release in April and it should include Gnome 3. Gnome 3 was supposed to be released in Sept 2010 and included in10.10, but it got put back to Mar 2011 and is being included in 11.04. Does anyone know what system requirements it will need. The latter versions of Gnome 2 required less memory and hardware than previous versions and where better suited for older machines, but what about Gnome 3. Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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10.10 Running Perfectly Well
by Simon Royal 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Hi Success! I am now running Ubuntu 10.10 and it is fine with no power issues. It will boot off battery fine and I can also remove the power adapter while it is running. Brilliant. I did a fresh install - no power issues. I ran update manager, all updates installed - no power issues. It must have been an upgrade issue before (from 9.10 to 10.04 to 10.10). Glad I set up a separate partition to save all my files on, it has made this trial and error a lot easier. Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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10.10 Live No Power Issues
by Simon Royal 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Hi As you know I had problems in Ubuntu 10.10 where my R31 wouldnt run off battery. It would hang on boot if on battery and if the power adapter came out it would hang too. I wiped it, ran the 9.10 live CD and didnt have this problem. So I installed 9.10 still no problem. I ran the 10.04 live CD and didnt have this problem. So I installed 10.04 still no problem. I just ran the 10.10 live CD and am not having this problem. So would you wipe and install 10.10 or still with 10.04? I am presuming the problem was because I originally installed 9.10, then upgraded to 10.04, then upgraded to 10.10. Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.04 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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10.10 Wont Boot Live CD
by Simon Royal 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Hi I am trying to resolve a problem with 10.10. I had it installed on my R31 and it wouldnt run on battery and if you booted from power adapter and then removed it, it would hang the machine. I wiped and installed 9.10, it didnt do it. I wiped and installed 10.04, it didnt do it. I ordered a 10.10 CD from eBay - because I didnt have any blanks or a burner in my ThinkPad. My machine wont boot from it. It will boot live and install from the 9.10 CD I have (which is an official disc from Ubuntu) and it will boot live and install from the 10.04 CD I burnt a while ago on another machine. So why wont this CD boot. I tried it in another machine and it booted ok. So I am lost now. Simon -- --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal. --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.04 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1

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