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Re: gdm, xdm etc
by Peter Alcibiades 14 May '07

14 May '07

"I don't really see what the display manager has to do with "remote terminal setup" or "auto start of apps", are you sure you're not comparing Window Managers?" Yes, I am comparing display managers. or trying to, but wrote carelessly. When I went from gdm to wdm, it wasn't auto start that vanished, that stayed and I miswrote, but what went was the ability to shutdown as a user from the control panel icon. I was very surprised too. When I tried to put the shutdown control back into the panel, all it offered was logout. Whereas with gdm, it offers you that screen where you choose between logout and shutdown. Then when I logged out and got to the wdm login screen, shutdown turned out not to work unless you first logged on as root. So I was stuck with putting in sudo and a new custom little panel thing. I couldn't see why changing the display manager should have done this, but what do I know? Then what I meant by remote terminal is that in gdm you have those very convenient screens for setting up xdmcp. Well probably you guys never use this, but over a home network its very easy and simple, and gdm lets you set it up very easily. Sorry, autostart is of course in the window manager. But, anyway is there a reason why wdm should seem faster? It seems without measuring anything and to an admittedly untrained eye, as if its a lot faster. Is this generally accepted, or am I imagining things? Peter

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Re: [ALUG] Line speed problem
by J.R. Seago 14 May '07

14 May '07

On Monday 14 May 2007 17:02, Ian bell <ianbell(a)ukfsn.org> wrote: > You might think about changing to ukfsn.org. My 8 Mbps max package > gives me 30G peak and 300G off peak bandwidth and it is totally Linux > friendly. > > Ian That may be jumping from the boiling pot into the fire, see the thread on uk.comp.os.linux "ISP gone AWOL" -- J.R. Seago GNU/Linux Registered User No. #219566 http://counter.li.org/ () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments

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MIDI
by Steve Engledow 14 May '07

14 May '07

I've decided it's about time I got back into playing with MIDI so I've been trying to work out the best way to get things working and I've come up with two options: 1) Does anyone have a spare PCI sound card with joystick port that they'd be willing to part with? I have coin. ;) 2) Does anyone have a better suggestion? Are there, for example, any USB midi devices that work well with linux? TVM and all that. S

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Re: netgear
by Peter Alcibiades 14 May '07

14 May '07

I've put in three of the sliver 4 port router+modem boxes. They've been perfect, run cool, work fine for a year or two, easy to manage, very simple interface. On another account I put in a half price lookalike from ebuyer to save a few pennies. It works fine but I had to set up DNS manually on each computer, and never could figure out why. I'd be very confident about netgear again. Peter

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Netgear LAN/WAN Switch/Router
by ted.harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 14 May '07

14 May '07

Hi Folks, I'd welcome comment from experienced folk on the following. I'm helping a friend sort out various computer-related problems. One aspect concerns their (NTL/Virgin) cable-DSL Internet connection. What I'm thinking of is getting one of those WAN/LAN boxes that combines a router port (to be cabled to their DSL cable modem) with a 4-port LAN switch. Browsing round the local (to me) dealers, the best option I've found readily available is the Netgear RP614 Broadband Router + 4 port 10/100 Switch. Platinum Range. RP614 (£25 from WoC). In theory this should do the job. But I have some reservations in that my one & only experience with a Netgear switch ended with it burning out rather soon. So I'm a bit wary of Netgear kit! But others may know different. The only non-Netgear alternative seems to be a "BELKIN F5D5231UK4 10/100 4-PORT CABLE/DSL GATEWAY ROUTER" which looks as though it does the same job, at £34 (web price) from PC World (£50 in-store price), so the above Netgear would be much cheaper. Other options available at PC World are upwards of £50, and are all Netgear. Comments welcome! With thanks, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <ted.harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 13-May-07 Time: 20:27:06 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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apache upgrade has broken server
by Jenny Hopkins 14 May '07

14 May '07

Hello there, I've just upgraded our debian server from sarge to etch. Apache is now running at version 1.3.34-4.1. It keeps crashing. When sent a sighup it won't restart. The error log shows [crit] (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to port 80 netstat -t -l -n -p | grep 80 then shows only xinetd is listening on port 80. The only way I can persuade apache to start is to comment out the 'Include hosts.conf' line in httpd.conf, start the server, allow the hosts.conf to be included once again, and restart. It then runs fine until the next time. I'm very much feeling my way with this upgrade, as the server is unfamiliar to me, and I'm not much cop at ports and virtual hosts and whatnot, but my new job means I'm supposed to keep apache running on this server running at all times. Any pointers as to what the problem could be would be very welcome. Thanks, Jenny

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Wierd DNS (sort of) error only in browsers
by Chris G 12 May '07

12 May '07

I have a wierd problem when running browsers on my Slackware machine at home, well it's more of a nuisance than a serious problem. If I go to a non-existent 'root' address, whether using Firefox or Lynx (or presumably other browsers) I always get the gradwell.net hosting message as follows:- gaa.goo.no hosted by gradwell dot com Ltd Sorry! The site you were looking for has not yet been configured by the owner of this site. If you are the site owner, please use our control panel to configure your site's virtual host. Please see this www.gradwell.com/support/virtual-hosts support article for information on how to configure your virtual host. Please remember to input all entries into the control panel in lower case. If you find that http://www.gaa.goo.no/ works, but http://gaa.goo.no/ does not, then please remember that you must create an additional website rule to enable the other virtual host. If you have any queries, please contact support(a)gradwell.net If I do a 'host gaa.goo.no' on the command line I get the expected "Host gaa.goo.no not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)". I have my company hosting set up at gradwell.net and my home machine has a CNAME entry in the isbd.net zone file so that home.isbd.net points at my home machine. Is this what's causing the oddity? Why does it only happen in browsers though? -- Chris Green

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Keyboard not working after 'successful' installation
by Chris G 12 May '07

12 May '07

I just installed Slackware 11 on an old[ish] PC and it all went totally smoothly with no problems at all. However when I boot the installation it does all the right things and presents me with a login: prompt but at that point the keyboard doesn't work so I'm a bit stumped. The keyboard works at the boot: prompt but it would seem that I've somehow got the wrong drivers in the installed system. Any ideas on how to fix this? One thing that it *might* be is that it's an old style keyboard with the large DIN plug, maybe this needs a different driver from the default, can I get somewhere from the boot: prompt to fix this? -- Chris Green

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RE: [ALUG] Hp laser printer
by Bev Nicolson 11 May '07

11 May '07

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15 years ago ...
by ted.harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 11 May '07

11 May '07

Wel,, I'm a month late, but ... Manchester Computing Centre MCC Newsletter, Number 35, April 1992. Page 8: PC Software News Free PC Unixes available Owen Leblanc There are now two free Unix operating systems available for PC's: Linux and 386BSD. Linux is the more mature system, now available in its fifth public test version, 0.95a. The system requires a 386 or above, with or without a co- processor, with a minimum of 2 Mbytes of memory, and with at least 4 Mbytes recommended. The source for the operating system requires about 0.5 Mbytes, and binaries currently available (about 250 commands) require 8 to 10 additional Mbyutes, although, of course, you may delete unwanted bits, or add further programs. With swap space, this means a minimum of about 20 Mbytes of hard disk space. [...] You must have a 1.2 or 1.3 Mbyte floppy drive for installation. [...] Both are unspupported software, though we expect some interest in these and other free Unix systems which should be available in the near future. Well, I was round at MCC shortly after that, and returned with a bundle of floppies (thanks to Owen's help with the downloading). I then re-structured the 40MB hard drive on my 4MB-RAM PC, giving 20MB to Linux, 5MB to swap, and conceding the remaining 15MB to DOS. Then I was flying! Been airborne ever since (though have to take avoiding action from time to time when those Flying Windows loom into my flightpath). Best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <ted.harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 11-May-07 Time: 19:06:54 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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