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Re: [ALUG] Quoted-Printable and MIME (Was: [ALUG] Sorry about the swearing...)
by Ten 17 Oct '05

17 Oct '05

On Monday 17 October 2005 11:16, MJ Ray wrote: > Ten <runlevelten(a)gmail.com> > > > > On Friday 14 October 2005 20:09, MJ Ray wrote: > > > Ten's mail client (KMail) is using quoted-printable for > > > plain text emails, which seems broken. > > What, just the idea of using quoted-printable? > Using Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions for non-extended parts > of emails does seem a broken idea to me. I realise that some people > advocate using MIME for everything, because it's there, > but the amount of MIMEd email nasties means that my bulk email client runs > plain-text-only until I tell it otherwise. Not so much because it's there with me, but since beginning to use kmail (ie since it became acceptable) I've become much more guilty of this. That said, the indignant revulsion I reserve for HTML mails leads me to understand this viewpoint perfectly. > > If so, KMail has been using qp in signed messages, and IIRC the PGP/MIME > > spec has the use of quoted-printable or base64 in such signed messages as > > a required/must. > Ah, yes, that rules out 8-bit. However, RFC 3156 says: "all data > signed according to this protocol MUST be constrained to 7 bits" > ...which means, if you're not sending 8-bit, you don't need to qp it. > KMail seems to be qp-ing everything regardless. It's not as bad as > gmail, which base64s everything regardless for some users! Eugh! > Hope that explains it, Yes, thanks. As probably mentioned, on examining the mail to work out the cause for this behaviour (and to give ground to my evangelical faith in the One True Desktop Suite, of course :-) ), I'm pretty much certain that the 'thinking' behind kmail doing that was that there were trailing spaces and stuff in the email. Now, whilst I'm not really au fait with the minutiae of pgp/mime, it seems that when sending the data via 7bit which had those trailing spaces _when it was signed_, encoding it as quoted-printable is a fair thing to do if you don't want your signature borken at the other end. So teh issues would seem to be (1) me not cleaning up my spaces post-edit, and (2) trailing spaces getting signed. Like I said, I don't pretend to be an expert on this, but that's my inference of what's going on there.. CMIIW :) Also as a matter of interest, thank you for drawing my attention to rfc 3156, as the last one I read on the matter was 2015! Probably before the turn of the century, literally ( which should give you a rough idea of how au fait I aren't! ). -- Ten PS: Those who know about a certain proprietary software I worked on in late 2001 will pour scorn on my standards-compliancy naffness, but I should point out that I worked on the horrid flash-based update UI, not any of the manly stuff.

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Brett Parker 17 Oct '05

17 Oct '05

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. Historically, these used to be the only time a lot of us would be about, now the channel has some usual faces that are there most of the time (except at silly o'clock, when we might be sleeping, or on the second thursday of the month, where we might be drinking in the Reindeer), so don't feel limited to visit during this time, come visit us when ever you feel like it! The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include xchat, irssi and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://www.irssi.org/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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KDM Display Manager
by David Noble 16 Oct '05

16 Oct '05

Hi I have somehow managed to disable my KDM display manager. Would any of you know the best way to go about getting it back to working order. I can't remember how I managed to disable it, but for the moment, I am forced to use the XDM manager. I run SuSE 9.3, which was working well up until yesterday. Thank you very much- any support would be much appreciated, David Noble, Norwich

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HDD
by Bob Dove 16 Oct '05

16 Oct '05

Hi Folks, Read somewhere that IDE drives should be mounted as HD 0 and HD 1 on same IDE cable, IDE 0 as master and HD 1 as slave. Some mother boards and some IDE cables require correct IDE cable connector to be used, i. e., top connector is slave, that lower in the cable as master. Later MB probably not so fussy but jumpers have to set. I have just had a battle setting up box two with an IDE drive due to confused jumper pin settings. Particular drive reads from right to left! Be nice if drive manufactures used a common jumper setting! Secondary IDE connector use for CD/DVD/Zips. The most used of the optical drives set as master, 'tother as slave. It seems that using a magnetic and optical drive on same IDE connector slows things down somewhat. This is of course Windoze lore, but assume motherboard/IDE et al works same in 'IX. Cheers. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 26/12/2004

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Zaurus SL-3100 or 3000
by Barry Samuels 15 Oct '05

15 Oct '05

Does anyone have a Zaurus SL-3100? I'm thinking of getting one particularly for running some Linux in-car navigation software with verbal instructions. I know this Zaurus has a built-in speaker but would like to know from someone who may have experience of it whether it can produce a respectable volume. Thanks. -- Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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firebird-super-server primary key help
by Owen Synge 14 Oct '05

14 Oct '05

Well I am a little anoyed as I wanted to write a basic fit for my needs app basded on firebird as I remember a previous employer used interbase a lot but I am stuck making primary keys get values automatically. knowing we have some experts on this list please help Owen $isql-fb Use CONNECT or CREATE DATABASE to specify a database SQL> CREATE DATABASE '/tmp/dvb4.fdb'; SQL> CREATE TABLE TABLEA ( CON> TABLEAPK BIGINT NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY , CON> TABLEANAME varchar(20) CON> ); SQL> COMMIT; SQL> CREATE GENERATOR GENPKTABLEA; SQL> COMMIT; SQL> CREATE TRIGGER BEFOREINSERTTABLEA for TABLEA CON> ACTIVE BEFORE INSERT position 0 CON> AS CON> BEGIN CON> IF(NEW.TABLEAPK IS NULL) THEN CON> NEW.TABLEAPK = GEN_ID(GENPKTABLEA, 1); Statement failed, SQLCODE = -104 Dynamic SQL Error -SQL error code = -104 -Unexpected end of command SQL> END CON>

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Setting up a closed IRC channel
by Keith Watson 14 Oct '05

14 Oct '05

Can any IRC experts out there give me some pointers on setting up a closed IRC channel for the developers within my company? Background is that we (i.e. the developers employed by Kewill in the UK) have over the last couple of days attended a piss-u^H^H^H^H^H^H^H conference organised by the IT director. We were talking about ways we can keep in touch. General consensus was that e-mail and Windows IM weren't very good tools for this if we wanted to open up discussions to everybody and that a closed IRC channel might work well. Do I need to set up an in-house server or are there servers out there we can make use of? Regards, Keith ____________ The material thing before you, that is IT. - Huang-po

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Oldest Noodles unearthed in China
by Keith Watson 14 Oct '05

14 Oct '05

<quote> "The remains of the world's oldest noodles have been unearthed in China." </quote> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4335160.stm Is there something you're not telling us, Noodles? :o), Keith ____________ QUOTATION, n. - The act of repeating erroneously the words of another, also, the words erroneously repeated. - Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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Re: 2nd Thursday Norwich Meet : Reindeer, Dereham Road
by Steve Engledow 14 Oct '05

14 Oct '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > The monthly "Second Thursday" ALUG Norwich Pub Meet is *tonight*, 13th October. And a muchly good meeting it was too! In total, 13 (14 if you count Tux) people attended so it's lucky we opted to sit in a different place to the usual where there happened to be more seats. There was also the added bonus of easy access to the pool table :) As is to be expected, the topics of conversation were many and various and, with thirteen of us, sometimes confusing ;) OK, so I can't remember any specific snippets of conversation to post here so I'll let someone else do that. The highlight of the night though, was the tense and highly competitive testing of wills and intellect between myself, Kaz, James, and Dave known to mere mortals as... Frustration. The winner being me :D All in all, a good time was had by all, Eli's bike lights were attached, Mike's resin coated USB flash device amused, and Tux got coated in cigarette ash and beer. Attendees (in alphabetical order because I'm nice like that): Adam, Becca, Dan (I think), Dave, Eli, Francis, James, Jan, Kaz, Mike, Noodles, Simon, Steve Until the next one, Steve -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDT39NCEbZc9Re45oRAuvBAKDMmuaEnv50l5OR/MfiEXNPY164ewCdFy3T LaqMniJt7TYDh4MnYVDsBZw= =0S++ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [ALUG] Sorry about the swearing...
by Adrian Kiddle 13 Oct '05

13 Oct '05

Hi, I'm not expert with linux but I've put a few boxes together. I think the problem may be the 2 slaves on IDE Channel 2. I think each IDE channel needs to have one master. Good luck. Adrian Kiddle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Anson" <tony.anson(a)zetnet.co.uk> To: <Main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:01 PM Subject: [ALUG] Sorry about the swearing... > Before you pass on to the next item, the Linux issue appears shortly... > > I've just put a box together (AMD 900, nine hundred and mumble mumble MB RAM). > > IDE Channel 1: HD0 (master) and CD/DVD-RW (slave), cable detect > IDE Channel 2: HD1 and Zip100 - both slave - not cable-detect.

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