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RE: [ALUG] Alug Website
by Keith Watson 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

> From: Brett Parker Sent: 07 October 2005 09:33 > MJ Ray <mjr(a)phonecoop.coop> wrote: > > Brett Parker <iDunno(a)sommitrealweird.co.uk> ... > > Questions: > > - do any of the CSS validator warnings cause anyone problems? > > I've not tested it in IE (not having a copy of IE to hand) so > there's a possibility it's completly broken there... A quick smoke test with IE seems to work ok. Like what I've seen so far. :o) Regards, Keith ____________ CONSOLATION, n. - The knowledge that a better man is more unfortunate than yourself. - Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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Alug Website
by Brett Parker 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This afternoon Steve handed me a bundled of HTML goodness for the website, I've just finished hacking together something (temporary) to give you a feel for what it looks like, currently this is all done "on the fly", so if anything is updated on the alug site, it should automagically happen to this 'rethemed' version. URL: http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/alug/retheme/ I *think* that it's mostly working, any obvious gotchas, tell me. Cheers, - -- Brett Parker web: http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/ email: iDunno(a)sommitrealweird.co.uk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDRa/IEh8oWxevnjQRAudsAKCtTcoTmjSBeuD/jQz1mFC3lwBqRwCgu8UW xPmqvBiGwQK4IXxFVTEYr7A= =x1pP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [ALUG] Web site - new editing method
by Dave Briggs 06 Oct '05

06 Oct '05

Quoting MJ Ray <mjr(a)phonecoop.coop>: > What should go on the site? At the moment, there's three sections > (background, meetings and venues) and some pages and subsites, > some of which need updating, moving or culling. I guess the thing is to consider who will be using the site, which will be people new to the group and existing members. So there needs to be intro stuff about the systems ALUG covers, info about the group and how things work, maybe some sort of member directory, for the newbies. Then for both newbies and existing members there can be the pages about the local groups and meetings, maybe with more details of past meetings so people can know what to expect and stuff? Then, mainly for the existing members there could be pages about specific projects that people are working on together, say. > I don't like the suggestion that the whole site be a wiki. Agreed. > > ALUG has a problem that when people get busy, they often get > too busy to hand over tasks. If all webmasters of the current > site die, it would just sit there, going out-of-date. If all > webmasters of a wiki die, it usually gets exploited and trashed. Which might be an argument for having a system in place where as many ALUGers as possible have access to editing pages, whilst not having a wiki free-for-all situation. That way, there is always someone to pick things up in the event of things falling behind on a page. > By the way, the Shropshire LUG site suggested as a nice design > also has double navigation, error messages and "search-engine > unfriendly" URLs - all things which don't happen much with > xhtml files and they can be mirrored more easily, although we > don't have mirrors just now. It's also a little cheeky not to > link back to LUG.org.uk IMO. Yes, a fairly nice style, though. Yeah, I should have specified, it was from a style point of view that I suggested it, rather than it being a classic piece of website coding! Could the library be integrated into a new site, too? -- Dave Briggs linux(a)davebriggs.net | http://davebriggs.net | http://palimpsest.org.uk

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Re: [ALUG] Web site - new editing method
by David Reynolds 06 Oct '05

06 Oct '05

Hi, This has become quite a convoluted thread (or threads) of which the gist to me seems to be that many Aluggers are unhappy with the state of the website and their inability to edit it. I'm not sure how long the current site has been about, being a *fairly* new Alugger, but as Brett said in a previous email, the design is beginning to look a bit dated. Surely this thread is an ideal time to raise the subject of perhaps redesigning the site and trying to find a new way forward for the future web presence of Alug. Another thing that should be discussed is who is going to take responsibility for the site. As far as I can tell many people would be interested in having a hand in the website, keeping it up to date, adding content, etc but no one has even been offered the chance. Surely by using some kind of CMS it will allow more people to contribute and keep the site up to date without having to rely on one person to patch the site. Just my 2¢ Cheers Dave -- David Reynolds david(a)reynoldsfamily.org.uk

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Web site - new editing method
by MJ Ray 06 Oct '05

06 Oct '05

As mentioned yesterday, I wrote a browser-based editor for the "static" pages on the ALUG site. You can now access this by following the instructions on http://www.alug.org.uk/background/submissions.html Does anyone have time to knock up a smarter way to link it from all pages than visiting each file by hand (sed? perl?)? Help updating the site gleefully received. Email me about any editor bugs you find and I'll deal with them ASAP. Thanks, -- MJ Ray (slef), K. Lynn, England, email see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Brett Parker 06 Oct '05

06 Oct '05

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. Historically, these used to be the only time a lot of us would be about, now the channel has some usual faces that are there most of the time (except at silly o'clock, when we might be sleeping, or on the second thursday of the month, where we might be drinking in the Reindeer), so don't feel limited to visit during this time, come visit us when ever you feel like it! The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include xchat, irssi and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://www.irssi.org/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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[ALUG Announce] LOCAL: Norwich, Sun 23 Oct 2005, ALUG
by MJ Ray 06 Oct '05

06 Oct '05

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- ALUG @ Nelson Court B Common Room, UEA, Norwich Weekend meeting: Sunday 23rd October 2005 Plan for the meeting We will meet up from 2pm onwards; we have the room until 6pm. The meeting is open to anyone interested in GNU/Linux or any Free/Open Source software. This meeting is particularly suitable if you want to bring along kit for hands-on help with installing, configuring or using linux distributions or applications or if you have something interesting that you'd like other people to see. It's also an opportunity to bring along old kit that's looking for a new home. There will probably be coffee and cake available; feel free to bring along a donation. Assuming the college bar is open we'll head there around 6ish. If you would like to get some help at the meeting, it is a good idea to mention it on [3]the main ALUG mailing list beforehand, although it is by no means a requirement. Please note we won't have internet access available. How to get there For directions, please see [4]the UEA venue information page. There are offers of carshares from the west and south. Please ask on the mailing list if interested. People at the meeting If you will be coming to this meeting, please try to say so on the mailing list, so we can have some idea of how many people may be there. Someone needs to bring biscuits - or home-made cakes - of course :-) Equipment Important disclaimer: Equipment is brought at your own risk. We strongly suggest that you tag or label your kit. No known thefts have occurred at our meetings, but there is ample scope for going home with the wrong cables, etc. Be sure to bring all appropriate power cables etc. An extra extension lead will also be a good idea. Discussion For information about this meeting or venue, please [5]use the mailing list. References 1. http://www.alug.org.uk/ 2. http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/ 3. http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main 4. http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/uea.html 5. http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Re: NTLworld broadband & contract???
by Christopher Dawkins 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

>> Is there anyone with an NTL cable-connected wireless router? > NTLworld broadband & contract??? (Christopher Dawkins) > Re: NTLworld broadband & contract??? (Laurie Brown) > Re: NTLworld broadband & contract??? (Duncan Sample) > Re: NTLworld broadband & contract??? (Ben Whyte) > > If you get something like the Netgear WGT624 .... You really are marvellous, you lot. I had a problem on Sunday last week, I posted a query and got a bunch of helpful and accurate replies. We order the suggested router and it arrives at the same time as I do (Tuesday 4th). First thing I do is follow the instructions that came with the router, and it doesn't work. Next I follow another route through the instructions that came with the router, and it doesn't work. So, finally, I follow the ALUG instructions, and it works perfectly. Within hours there are four machines happily connected, and there'll soon be a fifth. A few hours later, NTL replies to the [same] question posed ten days ago - and, actually, with a remarkably helpful reply. Or one that would have been remarkably helpful if ALUG hadn't sorted it out within hours. Many thanks. -- Christopher Dawkins, Felsted School, Dunmow, Essex CM6 3JG 01371-821076, mobile 07816 821659 cchd(a)felsted.essex.sch.uk

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Kitmeet @ UEA, 23 October
by sfr 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Sunday 23 October Nelson Court B Common Room 14:00 - 18:00 Pub afterwards Bring:- working kit, need-to-get-working kit, and kit you'd like to transfer to another home software coffee makers, tea-things, and snacks friends, relations, and gerbils. There'll be a cake-stall, but feel free to donate. Nelson Court is the building near the LCR and main car park, i.e. not the location of the last UEA meet, but the one before. FAO Sionide: it appears to have been booked as a meeting for an incipient student-union-soc, so get inaugurating :) sfr

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Re: [ALUG] WiKi Status Enquiry
by Dave Briggs 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Ben Francis wrote: > I'd recommend MediaWiki[1] which is the wiki behind wikipedia. I'm > currently using three of them, two of which are for internal use only > and soon to install a fourth. I don't know if it features password > protection for *reading* the wiki on a public web server though, I've > just been using http auth. Mediawiki works very well, though it is a large system and it might be a case of using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. I doubt the ALUG wiki would have enough pages to justify using a system on that scale, really! Having extra user names and passwords is always a pain in the neck but sadly the growth of spamming makes it a necessary evil. Also, I doubt that many ALUGers will be doing much updating on a regular basis, so it won't put upon too many people. Passwords and the like *are* against the spirit of a wiki, but it is probably less annoying for a user to use one than to have to browse a spam-clogged site. -- Dave Briggs linux(a)davebriggs.net | http://davebriggs.net | http://palimpsest.org.uk

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