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Next Social Meeting: The Reindeer, Dereham Road, Norwich: Thurs 9th June from 8pm
by Brett Parker 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, We're nearly at that time of the month again, yes, that's right, the time for the second thursday, Norwich, ALUG social evening meeting. This will be in The Reindeer from ~ 8pm (ish - I'll probably be there before that, depending on how bad the work day has been :)) on Thursday 9 June 2005. Attendees to these meetings usually include (but are most certainly not limited to, we like new people!): Me (iDunno) Jonathan (Noodles) Adam Bower (quinophex) Kirsten Naylor (wildduck) Eli (sunflowerinrain) Paul (paul_c) Martijn (mak) Last month we had a very nice turnout, it was good to see you all, I hope you can make it again this month. For those that don't know where The Reindeer is, the directions can be found at: http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/reindeer.html (OK - so this was more or less cribbed from last months announcement, shhh... don't tell anyone... I haven't actually confirmed with those thar people up thar that they be coming, but I would imagine that at least Me and Jonathan will be about, the rest of 'em depends on baby sitting duties, wether or not they're in the country, and other such fun family commitments ;) Thanks, - -- Brett Parker web: http://www.sommitrealweird.co.uk/ email: iDunno(a)sommitrealweird.co.uk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCoCsYEh8oWxevnjQRAiF8AJ45CSKDEoJlpmCtRNEkNBduFbk6tgCeKLYx VB2FlCZhim+XdYrxkfZ7giQ= =oZ0y -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Where do I find colour names?
by Chris Green 02 Jun '05

02 Jun '05

Where can I find the file that lists the X colour names? E.g. where are things like 'grey90', 'magenta4' and 'blue3' defined? I can find it on my Solaris machine at work but not on my Linux box at home. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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"The World Tonight": Brazil & OSS
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 02 Jun '05

02 Jun '05

Hi Folks, There was a neat item on "The World Tonight" tonight (Radio 4, Tue 31 May) regarding what looks like a very determined effort by Brazil to move to Open Source. You can Listen Again in the usual way to the whole program if you want to, but to get just the OSS item feed the following to RealPlayer: rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio4/worldtonight/ worldtonight_tue.ra?start="00:33:45.0"&end="00:39:15.0" (this is all one line). Best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 01-Jun-05 Time: 01:43:50 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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4.2.2 installation oddities
by Chris Green 01 Jun '05

01 Jun '05

Some further oddities about my xfce-4.2.2 installation on Slackware:- The background doesn't cover all the background if you see what I mean. I have the background set to blue but the top cm. or so of the background is pale grey. Middle mouse button click on the background does bring up a menu, it's a menu of applications to go to, not one I've ever used. When I right click on the funny (not very useful) thing in the bottom right corner and select 'Properties' I get an error saying 'Xfce Settings Manager error: No such plugin "xfibx"'. Similarly when I right click on the task bar and select Properties I get a similar error saying 'Xfce Settings Manager error: No such plugin "xfce"' Why am I getting all these missing plugins? -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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Any students here?
by Joe Button 01 Jun '05

01 Jun '05

"This Summer, don't let your programming skills lie fallow...Use them for the greater good of Open Source Software and computer science! Google will provide a $4500 award to each student who successfully completes an open source project by the end of the Summer." See http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html for more details. The deadline for proposals is less than two weeks away. I'm not a student but if anyone would like help getting a proposal together I'd be very happy to take a look. There's a flyer ( http://code.google.com/summerofcode.pdf ) which maybe someone could put up at the UEA CS labs etc? Joe

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Forcing "Return-Path:" in sendmail
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 01 Jun '05

01 Jun '05

Hi Folks, I want to find a way to *force* sendmail to include a specified "Return-Path:" header in mail it sends to a remote [E]SMTP server. Specifically: Return-Path: Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk rather than the header it computes automatically. Thanks for any suggestions! Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 21-May-05 Time: 21:05:22 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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inetd.conf and what's not in it
by Chris Green 01 Jun '05

01 Jun '05

I know quite a few daemons/servers are no longer started up by inetd, is there any logic to whether they are started this way or not? Further to this (and more importantly) how does one work out how an IP service is started if it's not in inetd.conf? In particular I can't see what starts the IMAP4 services but they most definitely do start. There's an 'imap2' entry in inetd.conf but not an 'imap4' one, is this the one that starts an connection on port 143? -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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Copying multiple files in a range
by Chris Glover 31 May '05

31 May '05

Hi, Here's one for you... If I have a range of files named dcp_1100.jpg - dcp_1189.jpg and I only want to copy 1156-1183, how do I do it. cp dcp_11[56-83].jpg <dest> does not work, but cp dcp_115[6-9].jpg <dest> does. What am I missing? There's got to be an easier way than typing it out serveral times for the range needed? Thanks Chris -- Chris ---------------------------------- E Mail: chris(a)glovercc.plus.com SIP: 84411389(a)voiptalk.org IAXTEL: 17003366726

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Copying IMAP folders, and/or a hierarchy of folders
by Chris Green 31 May '05

31 May '05

I'm still banging away at this problem and haven't yet found a satisfactory solution. There is a lot of mail hosted on my company's web hosting service, it's kept in a Cyrus IMAP server and access is via Horde/Imp webmail. This works pretty well but I'd like to be able to get at it in other ways and to archive some of it. So I asked the sysadmin to open up the IMAP server so I can access it from my home machine, this he has done and I can access it via IMAP/SSL on port 993. Using an stunnel client I can also access it as an 'ordinary' IMAP server for clients that don't do SSL. My two main requirements are:- 1 - To be able to copy (large) IMAP folders containing old sentmail as archived by Horde to our home machines, it can then be backed up there (saved to CD for instance) and removed from the Cyrus server to save space. 2 - To be able to copy a complete hierarchy of a user's messages on the IMAP server to a home machine. This will enable access with a normal (as opposed to webmail) client, I may even move some users from the remote webmail service to a home machine. I can find no utility or mail client that does both of the above satisfactorily. Initially one would think that any MUA that handles IMAP mail should be able to do it but I can't find one that does. Even the simpler requirement 1 can't be handled by most mail clients, e.g.:- Thunderbird - if you drag and drop a folder from the IMAP server to a local folder the folder is copied but none of its contents are copied, they do however appear to be removed from the remote folder - instant loss of mail! OE (yes someone recommended this) - simply can't be made to move/copy folders as far as I can see. I've tried Balsa and Kmail but neither worked, I can't remember the exact details. mutt - does a reasonable job, you can tag all the mail messages in an IMAP folder and then copy them to a local folder. However it's a bit clumsy and isn't really dealing with folders. Moving a whole hierarchy is even more difficult because each MUA and IMAP server seems to have its own way of arranging things, some see INBOX as the root of a user's hierarchy, others see INBOX as just another folder rooted at the same place as the rest of the hierarchy. Some allow both folders and mail in a folder, some don't. Often the view of a remote IMAP server is different from a local hierarchy. There are a number of utilities (imapsync, iisync, imapcopy, offlineimap, etc.) which are supposed to copy IMAP hierarchies but none works for me yet. A while ago I *did* successfully copy some IMAP hiearachies from a UW-Imap server to my home system but the same utility doesn't work satifactorily running from a Cyrus server. One of the main problems is that Cyrus allows both folders and mail within a folder, this needs some workarounds when transferring to a server (or mailbox hierarchy) where this isn't possible. Does anyone have any suggestions (apart from writing my own utility in perl, which is where I seem to be going at the moment). -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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"tracker cookie" ???
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 30 May '05

30 May '05

Hi Folks, This may be a falsely started hare. However, while browsing with Google, I suddenly got a pop-up which informed me that a "scan" had revealed that my machine had a cookie stored which would allow "tracking", i.e. spyware which could transmit information from my machine. It then invited me to download a free scanner to cure the problem. I have more than a suspicion that this cure might turn out to be worse than the alleged disease, but I'd be interested to see other people's comments! Best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 29-May-05 Time: 20:22:56 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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