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RE: [ALUG] Tentative Kit Meet Arrangements - 20th March @ UEA
by Keith Watson 22 Feb '05

22 Feb '05

Sounds good to me too. Venue as per the ALUG web site? Regards, Keith ____________ Those who seek the easy way do not seek the true way. - Dogen

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Re: [ALUG] Installing Linux mail
by Leon Stedman 21 Feb '05

21 Feb '05

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, MJ Ray wrote: > > Yes this is part of what I wanted. BUT the main problem is to get it > > (Mandrake 10.1) to work at all. I used wvdial to connect to the ISP thus: > > Sorry, I can't help with that. It didn't look like it's > connecting, unless your have a very fast ISP. 3 seconds? > I think it should even log the dial attempt and it looks > like it's not even attempting. Is the modem on COM1? > > I used ppp-config in debian to set up my dialup connection > when I first installed it and have copied or edited the files > from /etc/ppp pretty much ever since. Then it's just a case of > getting the correct permissions on files in /etc/ppp/ (readable > by users, writeable only by root) and on /usr/bin/pppd (owner > root, permissions start -rws). Finally, either "pon" or "pppd > call provider" (to use details from /etc/ppp/peers/provider) > It appears (from the log) that pppd is attempting to negotiate compression with the server, which it won't accept. I will attempt to stop this when I have the time. I already use Linux to send e-mails, and use the same hardware (grub dual boot), so most things are correct. This distro is RedHat 9, and I am attempting to configure Mandrake 10.1. Many thanks. Leon.

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RE: [ALUG] Forgotten...
by Keith Watson 21 Feb '05

21 Feb '05

> From: Anthony Anson Sent: 21 February 2005 10:45 > > However, the above isn't the point of this emu: when I came to remove > the CD, pressing the 'open/close' button on the drive resulted in a > sullen refusal to do anything. So, I tried the CD icon in Gnome, to be > told that Debian had lost the driver - and the drawer still would not > open. (Kept telling me that the drive was 'busy' or similar when I > clicketty-clicked its icon in the Desktop. [Do we call it > 'desktop'?] ) > > I had to close Debian down before the CD drive would operate again. > This happens to me every now and then. I find that opening a command shell and su'ing to root then issuing "eject /cdrom" (or whatever the CD mount point is) usually works. Regards, Keith ____________ People would rather sleep through life than stay awake for it. - Edward Albee

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RE: [ALUG] Forgotten...
by Keith Watson 21 Feb '05

21 Feb '05

> From: Anthony Anson Sent: 21 February 2005 11:42 > <63F7A21F1CA18143AFDBF28E2A7D6BBAE5E132(a)endor.kewill-europe.com> > from "Keith Watson" <keith.watson(a)kewill.com> contains these words: > > > > I had to close Debian down before the CD drive would > operate again. > > > > > > This happens to me every now and then. I find that opening a command > > shell and su'ing to root then issuing "eject /cdrom" (or > whatever the > > CD mount point is) usually works. > > The words have a familiar ring to them - but I'm not up to speed at > using terminals yet, so... Easy-peasy if you're using Debian (or any one of half a dozen other distros). hold down alt and then press F1 (or F2, F3, F4.....) and a command session will appear (to get back to the desktop just hold down alt and press F7 - if you're using Debian that is :o) ). Then at the logon prompt type 'root' and at the password prompt type your root password (which I assume you know?) Type 'df' to get a list of what is mounted where. one of the lines will say something like; \dev\hdd [a number] [a number] [a number] 100% /cdrom where the first bit refers to the CD rom device (it might be hde, hdf depending on how many HDDs you have or it might be emulated as a SCSI device e.g. /dev/scd0 or /dev/scd1) the last bit on the line is the directory where your CD is mounted. so you can then enter 'eject /dev/hdd' (or 'eject /dev/scd0' or whatever depending on which device the drive is set up as) or you can enter the mount point e.g. 'eject /cdrom' (I prefer this as I can never remember what device the CD drive is but I can remember where it's mounted :o) ) then when you're finished just type 'logout' (or hold down ctrl and press D) and then alt+F7. et voila! PS when you've done this successfully at least once you can save pressure on your memory by using 'history | grep eject' to get a list from the command history where you've used this command before. Note the number before one of the commands (one that worked that is :o) ) and just type an exclaimation mark ( ! ) followed by the number to re-execute the command eg. if you get; 5 eject /cdrom 12 eject /cdrom 24 eject /cdrom you can type !5 or !12 or !24 to re-execute the command. Regards, Keith ____________ Stand still. - The trees ahead and the bush beside you are not lost. - Albert Einstein

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RE: [ALUG] Forgotten...
by Keith Watson 21 Feb '05

21 Feb '05

> From: Brett Parker Sent: 21 February 2005 15:43 > using fuser in a terminal as root. Handy tool to have laying Yes, I've often heard root users muttering "fuser" to themselves ;-) Keith

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RE: [ALUG] Forgotten...
by Keith Watson 21 Feb '05

21 Feb '05

> From: Brett Parker Sent: 21 February 2005 15:00 > > Keith Watson <keith.watson(a)kewill.com> wrote: > > Easy-peasy if you're using Debian (or any one of half a > dozen other distros). > > > > hold down alt and then press F1 (or F2, F3, F4.....) and a command > > session will appear (to get back to the desktop just hold > down alt and > > press F7 - if you're using Debian that is :o) ). > > He's in X... if you say these things, get 'em right, for X to one of > those you'll want Ctrl-Alt-F1 etc. > oops! sorry :-$ Yes, hold down ctrl AND alt then press F1, F2,... etc. Regards, Keith ____________ To know that you know, and to know that you don't know - that is the real wisdom. - Confucius

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IRC meeting reminder
by adam＠thebowery.co.uk 21 Feb '05

21 Feb '05

Hi people, It appears that the irc meeting reminder has gone MIA. If you follow this link you can read it http://lists.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/main/2005-January/020548.html Um, and irc meetings don't tend to have as much momentum as in the past as there is pretty much always people hanging around on irc talking loads of nonsense (but we do try and help newbies out if they have problems etc.). Adam -- jabberid = quinophex(a)jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem

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Ubuntu
by Jeffrey Herrington 20 Feb '05

20 Feb '05

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by d922989 20 Feb '05

20 Feb '05

Dear All, having joined this list a few weeks ago I am at last getting around to saying 'hello'. I'm Rob of Lakenham, part time teacher of development economics at UEA, full time dad, very part time computer tinkerer and so on. I have gravitated towards Linux after a long period of growing disaffection with another well known OS. Until a few years back I always assumed that the more I used computers in my daily work, the more I would understand, gain control and open up creative possibilities. However, the latest version of the ubiquitous OS has confirmed the opposite tendancy. I really feel that I am being patronised and almost deliberately deskilled. I wanted a computer, not a glorified fruit machine. So to Linux. If you haven't realised by now, I am one of the very few (?) non-techie people on the list but perhaps a laugh at my newbie naivete may be warming on a cold winter evening. I only started with Linux in December 2004. Maybe in desperation for some visible nuts and bolts, I have ignored advice about difficulty and gone straight for Debian (3.0 r3). I've got a dual boot working with XP as I only have the one machine which I do a lot of UEA work on. The machine is a Thinkpad T22 from ebay. Possibly because of this I've got nowhere with X so far but I'll get there one day. At the moment my install reminds me of Multics at Bristol in the 1980s. I'm enjoying learning all about vi and Unix in general. That's it. My appreciation to all who contribute to making this an interesting list, especially to the kind folk who run it all. Perhaps look forward to meeting some of you one day; do you really venture down to the Billy Bluelight sometimes? Best wishes, Rob

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gimp plugins - How to do anything with them?
by Chris Green 20 Feb '05

20 Feb '05

How do you do anything with gimp plugins? The particular one in question is the fractalexplorer plugin, my wife wants some mandelbrot printouts so I hunted around and found that the gimp I have installed on my Slackware system has a whole directory devoted to fractalexplorer plugins and one of them is called mandelbrot. However I can't for the life of me work out how to feed the example files into the plugin in the gimp and get it to do anything. I'm a gimp novice so nothing is obvious (apart from how to run it to start with, I can manage that!). -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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