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Re: Linux Party
by John Seago 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

On Wednesday 02 Mar 2005 06:26, main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk wrote: > Iran is not going to be invaded by the UK, social > list subscribes already now there is a single issue > party to stop that, with several other parties > against. There is however no party actively supporting > FLOSS in East Anglia. Votes for a Linux > Party would show support for a positive progressive > idea, in an election filled with negativeaty. The Our World our Say Advertisement said "Our World Our Say was founded in response to the Iraq war with the aim of giving people a voice over world changing issues. We have since grown into a movement with over 60,000 people taking part in our campaigns. Our Vision of a world in which ordinary people have real power over decisions that affect our future. Our Mission: in a world where politicians are too influenced by large companies, media magnates and the President of the United States. Our World Our Say seeks to return Power to ordinary people by helping them find hteir political voice. By using modern technology, we are building a community that can influence decision makers as global conflict, human rights the future of the environment and defending democratic values." Note the "Mission" section would seem to cover the current software Patent situation neatly, I've written to ask what they intend to do, I'll let you know their reply. On the other hand as Ipswich always used to be a few hundred, sometimes less thatn two hundered either way that would seem to be the obvious target. I don't think you'd/we'd win though just possibly get one of the other candidatez in by taking away votes. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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Re: Linux Political Party
by John Seago 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

I don't just listen to the wireless, I also read the papers, and I found an advertisement, which may help with the underlying problem which has manifested itself as a call for a Linux Political Party. See here: http://www.owos.info/ Why just a Linux Party? Why not include the BSD's, and others, take a look here: http://www.freeos.com/ and I'm sure there are others. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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RE: [ALUG] New Member
by Keith Watson 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

> From: Anthony Anson Sent: 01 March 2005 02:10 > Or use a boot mangler - either a Linux one or a DOS/Windows one, and > then you can have both on the same box. ATM I have Bootmagic. (From > Partition Magic) I've moved from Bootmagic to GRUB and found it excellent. Can recommend it. Loads of howto's around on the web on how to set it up and a 5 second google turns up loads. Regards, Keith ____________ YEAR, n. - A period of three hundred and sixty-five disappointments. - Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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RE: [ALUG] Start-up folder
by Keith Watson 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

> From: Anthony Anson Sent: 01 March 2005 02:12 > The message <200502282244.10413.ALUGlist(a)digimatic.plus.com> > from Wayne Stallwood <ALUGlist(a)digimatic.plus.com> contains > these words: > > > My only complaint about the whole look and feel of KDE and it's associated > > apps is the Logout applet, they really need to loose that Dragon !! > > Loosing dragons is contrary to the terms of the Countryside and Wildlife Act. Be wery careful, taglines about annoyed dragons, crunchyness and ketchup, spring to mind. Keith

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Re: Political Party
by tom potts 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

I think we have to try and democratise the EU first! http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050228115557661 Please hammer your euro Mps about this one. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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RE: Linux Political Party
by John Seago 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

Perhaps this subject might be better transfered to the Social list? -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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Spare computer hardware
by Graham 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

I expect to be moving house before too long and have the usual pile of kit that doesn't deserve the attentions of the removal men. Any takers for any of the following to save them from the skip? Two Bull P166 pizza-box type computers, each with a small (1-2G-ish) hard drive and modest amounts of memory (64MB as I recall). They run Linux happily in text mode and can be used as low-duty web servers or the like. One has a 14" monitor sitting on top that I seem to remember will do 1024x768; it was running Windows 98 until recently. Keyboards but the mice are in poor shape. Assorted drives: Fujitsu M1636TAU - labelled as 1.2GB Seagate ST31722A - labelled as 1.6GB Seagate ST3491A - a 428MB drive CD-ROMs: 2 x 48-speed, 1 x 24-speed, 1 x unlabelled. 2 x Matrox Millennium PCI graphics cards - probably only 2MB at most but they'll run at 1024x768. 1 x Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI card. 1 x USB Fax Modem - probably a WinModem. 2 x Intel Pentiums (Pentia?) with heatsinks/fans; probably about 100 or 200MHz but I can't decode the legends. And finally, a real treat: a Wyse 50 VDU in full working order. -- GT

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Political Action and/or Party's
by John Seago 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

Adam wrote: > I would prefer it if we had a better voting system, e.g. one where you > can vote more than once, i.e. once for each party you support. > So the presence of a vote for party A and party B on my ballot paper and > a lack of a vote for party C in effect means that I don't care if A or B > win, but I certainly don't want to support C. > In preparation for the next general election I don't know if I can bring > myself to vote for any of the parties because they all suck, just some > more than others. If in effect I could vote for all the parties who were > crap instead of the ones that were totally crap then it wouldn't be a > total disaster. > This has the nice side effect that I could vote for single issue > parties, and when they get lots of votes people think that maybe the > issues they are raising are a good idea and the mainstream will take > them up. Adam try sending the above, exactly as it is to the Party's of your choice. I would recommend including 10 Downing Street. I spend most of the day at home in the winter, listening to Radio 4. Analysts seem to be of the opinion that the one fact that is worrying all party's is exactly the point of view you exhibit above. It would be interesting to see what kind of response you get, especially as the EU has decided that democracy is inimical to Microsoft's interests. I might even have a go at a similar exercise myself. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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Re: main digest, Vol 3 #465 - 17 msgs
by John Seago 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

On Monday 28 Feb 2005 14:52, main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk wrote: > You missed my point then, the mainstream parties with the current system > don't care if you vote for a minority party (hell the liberal democrats > are a fairly mainstream party that suffers very often from the mentality > of the other voters "I would vote lib-dem but they won't get many votes, > so I won't vote for them". It makes no "real" difference with a single > vote if you spoil the ballot or vote for a minority party. Having re-installed since the Euro Election I'll have to dig through my archives to find what the Lib Dems said to me but I can assurue you it did make a difference to the Lib Dems. Still if you're not going to emigrate, I had the chance, but I'm now too old and broken, then the only recourse we, you and I, have is activism to change the system. A revolution of two, with one in a wheelchair, at least might get a slight sympathy vote. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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Invitation to FOSDEM 2005
by Fosdem Organization 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

Hi, The purpose of this e-mail is to invite you to attend the 5th edition of FOSDEM. This edition will take place on the 26th and 27th of February 2005 in Brussels (see http://www.fosdem.org for more info). The previous edition encountered a huge success with more than 2000 developers coming from all over the world to attend the talks of famous figures of the Free Software and Open Source community. This year, will be present (in alphabetical order): Alan Cox - Kernel Maintainer Alan Robertson - Linux High-Availability Project Founder Alasdair Kergon - Device Mapper and LVM Maintainer Alex Larsson - Nautilus and GNOME-VFS Maintainer Alexander Dymo - KDevelop Maintainer Andreas Zeller - Creator of ddd Benoit Minisini - Creator of Gambas Ethan Galstad - Creator of Nagios Gerald Combs - Creator of Ethereal Harald Fernengel - KDevelop Developer Harald Welte - Netfilter Core Team Member, GPL Enforcement Jeff Johnson - RPM Jimmy "Jimbo" Wales - Wikipedia Founder Ken Preslan - Developer of OpenGFS Marius Mauch - Gentoo Emerge Marty Roesch - Creator of Snort IDS Matthias Ettrich - Creator of KDE, and Lyx Olivier Fourdan - Creator of XFCE Olle Mulmo - GRID Specialist, Globus Toolkit Core Team Pat Mochel - Sysfs/Kernel Driver Core Maintainer Richard M. Stallman - Leader of the FSF Stuart Winter - Slackware & slacktrack Developer And many others who will be giving talks and tutorials... Several Free or Open Source Software projects have decided to hold a meeting during FOSDEM. It is a great occasion to meet core developers in the following developers' rooms: Calibre room, GNU Classpath room, Clustering room, Debian room, Dokeos room, Drupal room, Embedded Software room, Gentoo room, GNOME room, GNUStep room, Jabber room, KDE room, Mozilla room, Opengroupware room, Perl room, PHP/Pear room, Tcl room. All those rooms have an internal schedule, including talks and presentations from lead developers. Moreover, the Free Software Award will be handed out during the FOSDEM 2005 by Richard Stallman and other members from the Free Software Foundation. Don't miss other FOSDEM initiatives like the Lightning Talks, the Key Signing Party, or the buffet. FOSDEM's goal is to provide Free Software and Open Source developers and communities the opportunity to learn and discuss the latest developments in the Free and Open Source arena and to promote the development and the benefits of Free and Open Source solutions. The speakers mainly talk about technologies and make technical speeches. The event is totally free. This is a non-commercial event organised by people from the community. So we would like to thank our sponsors who have understood this and helped us making FOSDEM possible to happen this year again in the same spirit. Those include: O'Reilly Media inc., Linux Magazine, Freshmeat, Sourceforge, Argon7, Astaro, GNU/Linux Magazine France, Hakin9, Misc, PePLink, X-Tend, LinuxFR, Linux-Magazin, Best Of Publishing and all of our donators without who organizing such an event wouldn't be possible. We encourage you to support FOSDEM if you appreciate the event and want it to continue in the same spirit. More information about the FOSDEM 2005 support operation at: http://www.fosdem.org/2005/index/support/ We hope to see you there. -- FOSDEM 2005 Damien Sandras Community Contact

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