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RE: [ALUG] Christmas Meal
by Elisabeth 02 Jan '05

02 Jan '05

>===== Original Message From Anthony Anson <tony.anson(a)zetnet.co.uk> ===== >from Brett Parker: > >> Of course, the other thing that now needs organizing (not one of alugs >> strong points at the moment ;) is how the hell we all get there, but >> that's not such a big problem :) > >That's reassuring - I thought it was. And getting home again an even >bigger one. Only if you can't stagger to one of the cars. e

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Debian and large hard drives
by tom potts 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

It sounds as if you've got a version with an old 137G disk limit. At a rough guess I would suggest you partition and possibly (minimum) install of mandrake so you can check for any usefull settings. You should then be able to install debian in its place and then re-compile the kernel with >137G support - check its available first. Then the NTFS partition should become visible and mountable (readonly) under Linux. If you wish to 'communicate' Linux<->XP you may wish to consider a smaller Win32 type partition which can be mounted under Debian and XP then you could just partition the hard drive and then stick debian on it and ignore the fact it cant read 137G+ of bug ridden code which sounds like a blessing to me! Happy new day counter overflow error! ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [ALUG] Debian and large hard drives
by adam＠thebowery.co.uk 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

On Fri, Dec 31, 2004 at 11:52:58AM +0000, Chris Walker wrote: > On Fri 31 Dec, tom potts wrote: > > > > It sounds as if you've got a version with an old 137G > > disk limit. > > But it's virtually the latest version on the site. We found a patched kernel > which somebody had posted but my son wasn't keen on using that as it would > have been out of step with everything else. I just had another thought, you are trying to install using a 2.4 series kernel and not a 2.2 series kernel? (I /think/ that the default for 3.0 was still a 2.2 kernel and you needed to tell it at boot time to use a 2.4 series kernel) Oh, and after a bit more digging, are you installing Windows XP SP1 (or SP2) as they both support disks larger than 137 Gigs, plain old Windows XP doesn't support 137GB disks until you apply a service pack. Adam -- jabberid = quinophex(a)jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem

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Re: [ALUG] Debian and large hard drives
by adam＠thebowery.co.uk 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

On Fri, Dec 31, 2004 at 12:54:18PM +0000, Chris Walker wrote: > > It could be that the BIOS on the machine doesn't know about large disks > > (i.e. greater than 137G) try looking for a BIOS update for the machine, > > as if the Debian installer is going by the size reported by the BIOS > > then you will see a problem. I would expect once you have the machine > > installed it will work fine as the kernel will talk direct to the IDE > > controller rather than look at geometry via the BIOS. > > But Windows sees the large capacity now as does NetBSD. So why doesn't > Debian? As a guess, the Debian installer/partitioner is going by the size reported by the BIOS, NetBSD and Windows are going by what the disk and controller say. I could be wrong as I havn't bothered to google it up, its just a suggestion :) Adam -- jabberid = quinophex(a)jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem

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Re: [ALUG] Debian and large hard drives
by adam＠thebowery.co.uk 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

On Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 09:27:14PM +0000, Chris Walker wrote: > I think he'd still like Debian though and on the large drive. He's currently > contemplating installing it on a smaller i.e. less than 137 GB drive which is > also in the machine but currently used. > > What does he need to do to an install on the large drive? He doesn't live in > this part of the world and isn't an ALUG subscriber so I'll have to be the go > between. It could be that the BIOS on the machine doesn't know about large disks (i.e. greater than 137G) try looking for a BIOS update for the machine, as if the Debian installer is going by the size reported by the BIOS then you will see a problem. I would expect once you have the machine installed it will work fine as the kernel will talk direct to the IDE controller rather than look at geometry via the BIOS. Adam -- jabberid = quinophex(a)jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem

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Christmas Meal
by Wayne Stallwood 30 Dec '04

30 Dec '04

Have we got a firm date for the Christmas meal yet ? I remember there being some discussion about the 7th or the 14th of Jan and I think we have established Buckinghamshire Arms as the venue (or was that just a suggestion that has stuck in my mind) My head is still clearing after the Seasonal Event of Overconsumption and I want to get my social calendar in shape before the Predicted Post New Year's Eve Blackout (currently scheduled to last until at least Jan the 5th)

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'locate', does anyone find it useful?
by Chris Green 29 Dec '04

29 Dec '04

I tend always to use find when looking for files but recently discovered 'locate'. However the 'locate' way of doing things strikes me a not very useful as it searches for the string you give it in every part of the filename which, in general, gives far too many hits. E.g. if I do "locate organ" in the hope of finding some file containing organ music I get thousands of hits with 'Korganizer' etc. in. I also tried "locate -r '^organ" but that found nothing (which is also wrong). "find / -name 'organ*'" does what I want (if slowly), is there any way of doing the same search with locate? -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 27 Dec '04

27 Dec '04

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Regular expressions
by Nick Daniels 26 Dec '04

26 Dec '04

Hi I use mailfilter for deleting spam on server Since I never get spam sent to above address, but xyzzy(a)danielsn.freeserve.co.uk etc. can anybody tell me a regular expression for "If not above address deny". This is the type of term used in Mailfilter: DENY=^To:.*nigel DENY=^Subject:.*spam Regards - Nick Daniels

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Modem/Router recommendation
by Nick Daniels 24 Dec '04

24 Dec '04

Hi I seem to be getting an ever increasing number of requests for Linux details from people.usually ordinary home /office users The people concerned are able to install it themselves, but the main problem is they are using the supplied modem - Speedtouch USB Can anyboy recommend a cheap Modem/Router which will work straight out of the box for Linux? Most of the users quickly give up when they find they cannot get straight onto the internet, those who do usually stay converted Regards Nick Daniels Many thanks for your help during the year

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