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Linux with Gnome-2?
by Ted Harding 04 Jul '17

04 Jul '17

Greetings all! As I posted a few days ago, I shall want to install Linux on a new laptop. For years I have been using Gnome 2, since in particular it provides for a row of "workspace" icons at the bottom of the screen. I use 20 of these, since much of the work I do involves switching between different workspaces in which different jobs are going on in parallel (and each could itself use up two or more workspaces). A screengrab of what the screen looks like before I start anything up is at: http://www.zen89632.zen.co.uk/Misc/gnome2-debian-desktop.jpg The 20 workspace icons are at bottom right, and switching between them is easy -- mouse-click, or "Ctrl-Alt-RightArrow" or "Ctrl-Alt-LeftArrow". This does not seem to be available on Gnome 3. So can anyone point me to installation resources for a Linux distribution which has Gbome 2? Scientific Linux: https://www.scientificlinux.org/ used to have Gnome 2 for some time after Gnome 3 came out, but it seems that it now only has Gnome 3 (though I haven't found definite confirmation of this on the SciLin website). Any relevant info anf help will be much appreciated! Thanks, and best wishes to all, Ted.

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Linux with Gnome-2?
by Barry Broom 27 Jun '17

27 Jun '17

Hi Ted, This is my first time posting so I hope it gets through. In Gnome 3 based distributions (Ubuntu/Debian/Fedora etc) you can switch workspaces by going to the Activities screen and using the scroll wheel on the mouse or by clicking on the right pane. Alternatively you can press Super+Page Up (or Super+Page Down) on the keyboard to cycle through your workspaces. If you are using a PC the 'super' key is the Windows key. Barry

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Re: [ALUG] Linux with Gnome-2?
by Mick 26 Jun '17

26 Jun '17

But crucially, with the Mate desktop. (Please forgive the top post. I'm using a mobile mail client. On my hols. )On 26 Jun 2017 20:18, Bev Nicolson <lumos(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > > Ah. Well the answer I got a while back was this, Ted: > > https://www.linuxmint.com/ > > I'll have to dive in one day. > > Bev > > > On 26/06/17 18:56, Ted Harding wrote: > > So can anyone point me to installation resources for a > > Linux distribution which has Gbome 2? > > > > Scientific Linux: > > https://www.scientificlinux.org/ > > used to have Gnome 2 for some time after Gnome 3 came out, > > but it seems that it now only has Gnome 3 (though I haven't > > found definite confirmation of this on the SciLin website). > > > > Any relevant info anf help will be much appreciated! > > Thanks, and best wishes to all, > > Ted. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > > https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! > > > > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!

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Re: [ALUG] MS Office file formats
by mark fernandes 14 Jun '17

14 Jun '17

Hi, I'm assuming that you mean Office 365. Have just been working on a doc for work and saved it to my dropbox and remembered your query. Properties says \ Word 2007 (.docx) HTH, Mark Fernandes

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Re: [ALUG] SSH clients
by Laurie Brown 14 Jun '17

14 Jun '17

On 13/06/17 16:52, Mark Rogers wrote: > On 13 June 2017 at 16:21, Laurie Brown <laurie(a)brownowl.com> wrote: >> >> DNSmasq is your friend... > > It is indeed, but 17.04 isn't letting me talk to it! > > Specifically: dnsmasq is what I have running on a server in my office, > and my desktop is set to use it via DHCP . A lookup for anything with > a dot in it works, but without it doesn't get passed to my dnsmasq > server: > > $ dig myhost.msl-office.co.uk #works > $ dig virtualhost.myhost #works > $ dig myhost #fails > $ dig @192.168.1.5 myhost #works (where 192.168.1.5 is my server > running dnsmasq) Ah! I confess I haven't tried it with 17.04 at all. I use it extensively in 14.04 and it works well. I have a situation where I need split-horizon DNS (which djbdns can do as well). Mobile device users, when in-house, need to access internal services with what is effectively the external domain so that when they leave the internal network, the same domains work, but point to a different IP address. Basically dnscache intercepts the call to an external domain and returns a local address, which is what I think you need. > Not sure if the off-list reply was deliberate so I haven't "corrected" > it, but feel free to reply back to the list. It wasn't! hit the wrong button in a hurry! Sorry! Cheers, Laurie. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurie Brown laurie(a)brownowl.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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SSH clients
by Mark Rogers 13 Jun '17

13 Jun '17

Usually I just SSH directly from my terminal, but that's not a great way to keep track of server IP addresses and keys etc. So, what do others do? -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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Re: [ALUG] MS Office file formats
by Noel Galer 13 Jun '17

13 Jun '17

You may find the following link useful. Not so much for the obvious explanation, but more for the background :- https://www.howtogeek.com/304622/what-is-a-.docx-file-and-how-is-it-diff erent-from-a-.doc-file-in-microsoft-word/ Personally, I think it is a cynical attempt to keep one step ahead of an 'Open' format, in order to keep the world hooked on MS Office and the spiralling costs. But then I also see Microsoft as a 'single point of failure' for the world. However, the NHS came close to something like that recently. I wonder where the bug came from ? Best regards, Noel XorSyst -----Original Message----- From: main [mailto:main-bounces@lists.alug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Phil Thane Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 6:31 PM To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: [ALUG] MS Office file formats I've used Star Office / Open Office / Libre Office for all my writing work since around 2000. Most editors though want work in MS file formats, previously .doc, now .docx. I notice that Libre Office 5 'save as' function gives me the option to save in MS Word 2007 - 2013 XML (docx). Does anyone know if that's the latest? What does the new-fangled 'MS Office as a Service' use? Are we going to run into compatibility issues all over again? -- Phil Thane www.pthane.co.uk phil(a)pthane.co.uk 01767 449759 07582 750607 Twitter @pthane _______________________________________________ main(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://www.alug.org.uk/ https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!

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KeePass, was Re: SSH clients
by Mark Rogers 13 Jun '17

13 Jun '17

On 12 June 2017 at 11:57, samwise <samwise(a)bagshot-row.org> wrote: > KeePass is a lot more powerful than first appears! > I've played with Keepass in the (distant) past but not recently, and it's looking like I should take another look. I currently use LastPass (cue cries of horror...) because its Android client generally works pretty well at auto-filling apps (including but not limited to browser). A quick Google shows that there are KeyPass clients for Android (and more than one to choose from!) but a quick glance suggests that while they may give access to the passwords it wasn't clear that auto-fill would be there. (KeePassDroid doesn't seem to have much in the way of feature documentation, but reading the documentation on Keepass2Android, which looks pretty well specified, it allows switching to a Keepass keyboard to auto-enter passwords but that doesn't sound as seamless as LastPass.) What do others use for synchronising their Keepass data securely between machines (including mobiles)? Is it possible to share certain sets of data between users? Mark -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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sudo &
by Mark Rogers 13 Jun '17

13 Jun '17

Is there an easy was to launch a process with sudo and send it into the background? $ sudo myapp & .. will go straight into the background then stop, waiting for a password to be entered. So I have to bring it back to the foreground (fg), enter the password, stop it (ctrl-z) then send it back into the background (bg). Of-course what normally happens is that I don't realise it's stopped at all, only to come back several hours after a long process should have been running to find it hasn't yet started.... I'm sure there's a better way? Mark -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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MS Office file formats
by Phil Thane 12 Jun '17

12 Jun '17

I've used Star Office / Open Office / Libre Office for all my writing work since around 2000. Most editors though want work in MS file formats, previously .doc, now .docx. I notice that Libre Office 5 'save as' function gives me the option to save in MS Word 2007 - 2013 XML (docx). Does anyone know if that's the latest? What does the new-fangled 'MS Office as a Service' use? Are we going to run into compatibility issues all over again? -- Phil Thane www.pthane.co.uk phil(a)pthane.co.uk 01767 449759 07582 750607 Twitter @pthane

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