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Re: [ALUG] Linux with Gnome-2?
by Mick 26 Jun '17

26 Jun '17

But crucially, with the Mate desktop. (Please forgive the top post. I'm using a mobile mail client. On my hols. )On 26 Jun 2017 20:18, Bev Nicolson <lumos(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > > Ah. Well the answer I got a while back was this, Ted: > > https://www.linuxmint.com/ > > I'll have to dive in one day. > > Bev > > > On 26/06/17 18:56, Ted Harding wrote: > > So can anyone point me to installation resources for a > > Linux distribution which has Gbome 2? > > > > Scientific Linux: > > https://www.scientificlinux.org/ > > used to have Gnome 2 for some time after Gnome 3 came out, > > but it seems that it now only has Gnome 3 (though I haven't > > found definite confirmation of this on the SciLin website). > > > > Any relevant info anf help will be much appreciated! > > Thanks, and best wishes to all, > > Ted. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > > https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! > > > > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!

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Re: [ALUG] MS Office file formats
by mark fernandes 14 Jun '17

14 Jun '17

Hi, I'm assuming that you mean Office 365. Have just been working on a doc for work and saved it to my dropbox and remembered your query. Properties says \ Word 2007 (.docx) HTH, Mark Fernandes

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Re: [ALUG] SSH clients
by Laurie Brown 14 Jun '17

14 Jun '17

On 13/06/17 16:52, Mark Rogers wrote: > On 13 June 2017 at 16:21, Laurie Brown <laurie(a)brownowl.com> wrote: >> >> DNSmasq is your friend... > > It is indeed, but 17.04 isn't letting me talk to it! > > Specifically: dnsmasq is what I have running on a server in my office, > and my desktop is set to use it via DHCP . A lookup for anything with > a dot in it works, but without it doesn't get passed to my dnsmasq > server: > > $ dig myhost.msl-office.co.uk #works > $ dig virtualhost.myhost #works > $ dig myhost #fails > $ dig @192.168.1.5 myhost #works (where 192.168.1.5 is my server > running dnsmasq) Ah! I confess I haven't tried it with 17.04 at all. I use it extensively in 14.04 and it works well. I have a situation where I need split-horizon DNS (which djbdns can do as well). Mobile device users, when in-house, need to access internal services with what is effectively the external domain so that when they leave the internal network, the same domains work, but point to a different IP address. Basically dnscache intercepts the call to an external domain and returns a local address, which is what I think you need. > Not sure if the off-list reply was deliberate so I haven't "corrected" > it, but feel free to reply back to the list. It wasn't! hit the wrong button in a hurry! Sorry! Cheers, Laurie. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Laurie Brown laurie(a)brownowl.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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SSH clients
by Mark Rogers 13 Jun '17

13 Jun '17

Usually I just SSH directly from my terminal, but that's not a great way to keep track of server IP addresses and keys etc. So, what do others do? -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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Re: [ALUG] MS Office file formats
by Noel Galer 13 Jun '17

13 Jun '17

You may find the following link useful. Not so much for the obvious explanation, but more for the background :- https://www.howtogeek.com/304622/what-is-a-.docx-file-and-how-is-it-diff erent-from-a-.doc-file-in-microsoft-word/ Personally, I think it is a cynical attempt to keep one step ahead of an 'Open' format, in order to keep the world hooked on MS Office and the spiralling costs. But then I also see Microsoft as a 'single point of failure' for the world. However, the NHS came close to something like that recently. I wonder where the bug came from ? Best regards, Noel XorSyst -----Original Message----- From: main [mailto:main-bounces@lists.alug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Phil Thane Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 6:31 PM To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: [ALUG] MS Office file formats I've used Star Office / Open Office / Libre Office for all my writing work since around 2000. Most editors though want work in MS file formats, previously .doc, now .docx. I notice that Libre Office 5 'save as' function gives me the option to save in MS Word 2007 - 2013 XML (docx). Does anyone know if that's the latest? What does the new-fangled 'MS Office as a Service' use? Are we going to run into compatibility issues all over again? -- Phil Thane www.pthane.co.uk phil(a)pthane.co.uk 01767 449759 07582 750607 Twitter @pthane _______________________________________________ main(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://www.alug.org.uk/ https://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above!

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KeePass, was Re: SSH clients
by Mark Rogers 13 Jun '17

13 Jun '17

On 12 June 2017 at 11:57, samwise <samwise(a)bagshot-row.org> wrote: > KeePass is a lot more powerful than first appears! > I've played with Keepass in the (distant) past but not recently, and it's looking like I should take another look. I currently use LastPass (cue cries of horror...) because its Android client generally works pretty well at auto-filling apps (including but not limited to browser). A quick Google shows that there are KeyPass clients for Android (and more than one to choose from!) but a quick glance suggests that while they may give access to the passwords it wasn't clear that auto-fill would be there. (KeePassDroid doesn't seem to have much in the way of feature documentation, but reading the documentation on Keepass2Android, which looks pretty well specified, it allows switching to a Keepass keyboard to auto-enter passwords but that doesn't sound as seamless as LastPass.) What do others use for synchronising their Keepass data securely between machines (including mobiles)? Is it possible to share certain sets of data between users? Mark -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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sudo &
by Mark Rogers 13 Jun '17

13 Jun '17

Is there an easy was to launch a process with sudo and send it into the background? $ sudo myapp & .. will go straight into the background then stop, waiting for a password to be entered. So I have to bring it back to the foreground (fg), enter the password, stop it (ctrl-z) then send it back into the background (bg). Of-course what normally happens is that I don't realise it's stopped at all, only to come back several hours after a long process should have been running to find it hasn't yet started.... I'm sure there's a better way? Mark -- Mark Rogers // More Solutions Ltd (Peterborough Office) // 0844 251 1450 Registered in England (0456 0902) 21 Drakes Mews, Milton Keynes, MK8 0ER

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MS Office file formats
by Phil Thane 12 Jun '17

12 Jun '17

I've used Star Office / Open Office / Libre Office for all my writing work since around 2000. Most editors though want work in MS file formats, previously .doc, now .docx. I notice that Libre Office 5 'save as' function gives me the option to save in MS Word 2007 - 2013 XML (docx). Does anyone know if that's the latest? What does the new-fangled 'MS Office as a Service' use? Are we going to run into compatibility issues all over again? -- Phil Thane www.pthane.co.uk phil(a)pthane.co.uk 01767 449759 07582 750607 Twitter @pthane

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Re: [ALUG] Need new laptop AND seek recovery of files from VirtualBox
by Phil Ashby 11 Jun '17

11 Jun '17

On 28/05/17 12:00 Chris Green <cl(a)isbd.net> wrote: > Ted Harding <ted.harding(a)wlandres.net> wrote: >> The Linux filesystems are in VirtualBox ".vdi" files on >> the Windows XP system, which I was able to locate after >> booting with the Slackware CD. I've been looking around >> extensively for info about how to set about this. This >> does not seem to be straightfoward unless the VDI file >> is transerred (somehpow ... ) to another machine on which >> VirtualBox is installed. >> > I think that's the only practical way, copy the .vdi files to a system > which has VirtualBox installed and then get that system to boot the > virtual linux. > > -- Chris Green I've done similar in the past. Get the new machine sorted first, then either: boot up a live CD on the victim and export the local storage to the new machine (probably using the nice easy GUI 'sharing' stuff in Gnome these days); or remove the physical disk(s) and attach to the new machine via a USB caddy / directly into a disk slot if you have one spare, this may be easier than trying to get sharing guff to work. Either way, you can copy off the whole VirtualBox VMs folder from the victim's storage, then work on a nice new/fast/not-broken machine to get them going again. I use a similar approach to properly scan machines for malware, on the basis that one should never try and scan from within the possibly compromised OS. I export the raw disks using a live CD to another machine and scan from there. Cheers, Phil.

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Any DNS/systemd experts here? I have a DNS problem on new xubuntu install
by Chris Green 08 Jun '17

08 Jun '17

My new laptop has xubuntu 17.04 installed and that runs systemd-resolved for local DNS rather than the previous dnsmasq (run by Network Manager). I have a local server on my network that provides DHCP and DNS for the systems on the LAN and thus I can find things by name. From all my older (xubuntu 16.04) systems this works for both unqualified and FQDNs:- chris$ host backup backup.zbmc.eu has address 192.168.1.101 chris$ host pi pi.zbmc.eu has address 192.168.1.2 chris$ host backup.zbmc.eu backup.zbmc.eu has address 192.168.1.101 chris$ host pi.zbmc.eu pi.zbmc.eu has address 192.168.1.2 chris$ However, from the xubuntu 17.04 system, it doesn't work for unqualified names:- chris@t470$ host pi Host pi not found: 2(SERVFAIL) chris@t470$ host backup Host backup not found: 2(SERVFAIL) chris@t470$ host backup.zbmc.eu backup.zbmc.eu has address 192.168.1.101 It looks like it should work because systemd-resolve's configuration seems right:- chris@t470$ systemd-resolve --status Global DNS Domain: zbmc.eu DNSSEC NTA: 10.in-addr.arpa 16.172.in-addr.arpa 168.192.in-addr.arpa 17.172.in-addr.arpa 18.172.in-addr.arpa 19.172.in-addr.arpa 20.172.in-addr.arpa 21.172.in-addr.arpa 22.172.in-addr.arpa 23.172.in-addr.arpa 24.172.in-addr.arpa 25.172.in-addr.arpa 26.172.in-addr.arpa 27.172.in-addr.arpa 28.172.in-addr.arpa 29.172.in-addr.arpa 30.172.in-addr.arpa 31.172.in-addr.arpa corp d.f.ip6.arpa home internal intranet lan local private test Link 3 (wlp4s0) Current Scopes: DNS LLMNR setting: yes MulticastDNS setting: no DNSSEC setting: no DNSSEC supported: no DNS Servers: 192.168.1.2 8.8.8.8 DNS Domain: zbmc.eu Link 2 (enp0s31f6) Current Scopes: none LLMNR setting: yes MulticastDNS setting: no DNSSEC setting: no DNSSEC supported: no Hey! I think I see the problem, I set LLMNR to 'no' in the configuration but above it's still 'yes'. Why isn't it no? :- root@t470:/etc/systemd# more /etc/systemd/resolved.conf # This file is part of systemd. # # systemd is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it # under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License as published by # the Free Software Foundation; either version 2.1 of the License, or # (at your option) any later version. # # Entries in this file show the compile time defaults. # You can change settings by editing this file. # Defaults can be restored by simply deleting this file. # # See resolved.conf(5) for details [Resolve] #DNS= #FallbackDNS=8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 2001:4860:4860::8888 2001:4860:4860::8844 Domains=zbmc.eu LLMNR=no #DNSSEC=no #Cache=yes #DNSStubListener=udp root@t470:/etc/systemd# ... and I have restarted the service. Help! -- Chris Green

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