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[Alug]Announce digest, Vol 2 #15 - 1 msg
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 05 Sep '03

05 Sep '03

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. Schooltool development underway (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 15:08:12 +0100 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: fsfe-uk(a)gnu.org, lugmaster(a)lug.org.uk, announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Organization: My own Subject: [Alug Announce]Schooltool development underway Schooltool is a project to develop a school management system and release it under a free software licence. The UK is one of the initial targets. The core server is being developed in python. You can read Mark Shuttleworth's announcement of the start of programming at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=3065015&forum_id=328… Please forward this message as appropriate to interested people, but remember that this is only just starting. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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Re[2]: [Alug]ADSL and security
by Edenyard 04 Sep '03

04 Sep '03

Barry Samuels wrote: > >> UKFSN is 27.50 per month, according to the leaflet I have here, so >> just beyond your price. > > Not necessarily. I don't have a fixed boundary but as I'm retired on a pension I > have > to watch the pennies a bit. I'll have a look at them. I think someone else may > have > mentioned them. > Sorry if I'm speaking out of turn, but I've an idea that someone here mentioned Metronet a long time ago. I think the point of that was that they offer a rebate for low usage - possibly it came down to £10 a month if you didn't want gigabytes of transfer per week. I'm fairly sure I looked at Metronet when it was mentioned, but as Martlesham doesn't seem to be on the map so far as all this whizbang technology goes, I lost interest quite quickly. Don't know whether this helps or not.... Gerald.

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[Alug]Ely: Let's do it again
by MJ Ray 04 Sep '03

04 Sep '03

This is very late, but at least it's here now. On 21 August, a small and hardy band of ALUGgers started a new chapter in the group's history with the first meeting in Ely. Daniel, Rob, MJR, Kirsty, Adam and Steven (or, if you prefer, Kinnison, rjek(?), slef, wildduck, quinophex and, erm, Steven) met up at the Cutter on Ely's waterside, chatted, scoped out the place, ate, drank and were merry, then walked up the hill to the Fountain, chatted, drank and were merry (who needs food?). Then I had to run back for a train so I'd be up in time for work the following morning (and maybe someone can tell me if I missed anything worth posting). I enjoyed it and (as predicted) preferred the Fountain to the Cutter for bber. So, I suggest we meet up again and maybe gather more adherants. When's good for others? Evening of the 17th or afternoon of the 20th? Can someone else try their luck at getting info on the old dispensory as a meeting venue for late-ish October, please? I'm told that it's in the hands of City of Ely Council http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/partners/parish/ely/elyhome.htm or, failing that, any other suitable venue nearby? -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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[Alug]Re: "From Boot to Halt" talk, Norwich sunday 28th September.
by Tim Sanders 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

I would certainly have come if I had not been already booked somewhere else. I hope it will happen again one day Tim

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[Alug]Chkrootkit says Checking `bindshell'... INFECTED (PORTS: 600)
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

This has happened only since I changed inetd for xinetd and lsof -i :600 gives me: xinetd 16112 root 6u IPv4 318948149 UDP *:600 which I understand means that xinetd is using port 600. So why should chkrootkit think the port's infected? Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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RE: [Alug]ADSL and security
by Jonathan Dye 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

Nick Heppleston wrote: > On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 14:34, Barry Samuels wrote: >> My local telephone exchange is becoming broadband enabled at the end >> of September and I am working on the assumption that I will be able >> to use it (BT's site says I MAY). > > I would give BT's broadband sales number a ring just to confirm that > your phone number can receive ADSL before you get excited. I > was in the > same position after I moved to my new house only to find that > I was more > than 5.5Km from the Norwich West exchange and therefore couldn't get > ADSL. I received the same answer from their 'online checker' - you > 'may' be able to receive it... I had the same situation and was told I couldn't recieve it but I've now got connected with the Extended Reach trial that BT are doing. Basically if you are just too far for ADSL then you may be able to get connected with the Extended Reach trial (using normal ADSL equipment). For ISPs that are participating in the trial have a look at http://www.adslguide.org/newsarchive.asp?item=1175 JD _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service

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Re: [Alug]Browsing files on CD [lists@pelvoux.nildram.co.uk]
by Steve Fosdick 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

On 2003.09.03 13:21, Edenyard wrote: > I can start up Opera/Mozilla and open the front page without any > difficulty, but all links are unreachable. When I move the cursor > over a link, I find that its address is shown as (for example) > 'file:///fred/somepage.htm', whereas I would have expected it to be > '/mnt/cdrom/fred/somepage.htm'.... AFAIK, in windows there is a separate root directory for each disk so when windows tries to resolve a path which refers back to the root directory but doesn't specify a drive letter it will assume the current drive. So, for example, if your CD drive was E: /fred/somepage.htm would resolve to E:/fred/somepage.htm Of course, Unix-like OSes are different and have a single root directory so this doesn't work. You could work round this by creating symbolic links in the real root directory for each top-level directory on the CD. You could so this automatically like: cd /mnt/cdrom ls -l | grep ^d | awk '{print "ln -s /mnt/cdrom/" $8 " /" $8;}' | sh When you've finished browsing the CD you can remove the links: cd /mnt/cdrom ls -l | grep ^d | awk '{print "rm -f /" $8;}' | sh This is a little ugly but it's all I can think of ATM. HTH, Steve.

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RE: [Alug]External modem on laptop
by Jenny Hopkins 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

Chris Glover wrote: >Doesn't the laptop have a PS/2 port for the rodent? I'll check this out at home - or I could get a USB mouse as there is one USB port. Daniel Silverstone wrote: > If you're *extremely lucky* you won't have fried your modem > or your parallel port. > > *very different power levels and pinouts there* > > If you need to use this serial modem, get a USB<->serial doobry Er, oops :-) I have very little luck with modems (ongoing sagas) so it may be fried. I did only have the one brief attempt. I'll try either a USB or PS2 mouse then to free the serial port, or see if I can easily get the usb-serial doobry. (Then I'll go and get another unfried modem......) Thanks all, Jen

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[Alug]Browsing files on CD
by Edenyard 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

Please could someone shed some light on this: I received a CD-rom from the USA this morning, which contains a load of directories, in each of which is a selection of HTML files and related .JPG and .GIF images. There is also a front page .HTML file in the root directory and that file has links to all of the other pages scattered about the CD. I can start up Opera/Mozilla and open the front page without any difficulty, but all links are unreachable. When I move the cursor over a link, I find that its address is shown as (for example) 'file:///fred/somepage.htm', whereas I would have expected it to be '/mnt/cdrom/fred/somepage.htm'.... On the CD jewel case it says that the CD is for Doze and that 'other browsers may not work properly'. Is there a solution to this? It seems as though all the files are separately accessible - I can open any .HTM file manually in Opera, but the links don't work. Thanks for any help! Gerald.

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[Alug]Re: A message for justin fletcher
by Tarquin Mills 03 Sep '03

03 Sep '03

[Posted and mailed] Peter Naulls wrote: > Tarquin Mills <email address snipped by me> wrote: > > Paul Vigay wrote: > > > skok wrote: > > > > That does not say much, does it? Basicly, he has reasons for not > > > > updating his software, but he will not say what those reasons are... > > > So what? It's his software, and his reasons! End of story really! > > This a strange view for a free software advocate (JF) to take, as the > > one of the points of free software is that it is owned by everyone, i.e. > > the Creative Commons. > No, this is naive in the extreme. In particular, the software under > the GPL very much belongs to the copyright holder. Other licences have > variations on this. To quote the Anglia Linux User Group the free software movement is against copyright and the GPL is just an anti-copyright copyright (quinophex). One of the points of the GPL is that the source code is freely available and can be modified and redistributed. Justin Fletcher is not doing this with his software. BTW do not put my email address in usenet postings as this increases spamming. -- Tarquin Mills Norwich Spectrum and SAM Show (ORSAM 2003) http://homepage.ntlworld.com/speccyverse/orsam.htm

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