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RE: [Alug] kernel upgrade problems
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 14 Apr '03

14 Apr '03

Paul wrote: >a) Upgrade modutils to the latest version, and, >b) Upgrade lilo also. and raph(a)panache.demon.co.uk wrote: >To build 2.4.x udner 2.2 you will have to upgrade lots of things, including >gcc, modutils. binutils, libraries and possibly others. the easy way to do it >is to build a complete new system in a spare partition; don't try to upgrade in >place - you may screw up your working system. Thanks for this advice. My system has only a dialup modem, so the last update I did was from the woody cdrom. I'll also read up on debian kernel packages as advised on IRC last week. Will let you know if I have any success, hoping to have lots of nice home-computer time this weekend :-) Jen

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 14 Apr '03

14 Apr '03

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Adding a udma-100 card?
by Syd Hancock 14 Apr '03

14 Apr '03

I have an udma-100 hard drive but the m/board supports only ata-33 (apologies if these are not the correct technical terms). Is a udma-100 card simply a hardware addition or will it need drivers and, if so, are these likely to be modules or will it require a kernel rebuild? If distro dependant, it is likely to be used with either mandrake 9.1 or knoppix. TIA Syd

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LinuxConf Australia (LCA) 2003 - CD-ROM available
by Steve Fosdick 13 Apr '03

13 Apr '03

I spotted on Debian Planet that a CD-ROM had been released of the papers and presentations at LCA-2003 and it looks pretty interesting. Below is list of the papers/presentations. I have downloaded a copy of the CD and if anyone wants a real CD-ROM copy I'd be happy to do one - please let me know. Otherwise see http://conf.linux.org.au/ Wednesday, 22nd January 2003 ============================ Welcome to Linux.conf.au 2003 PHP Introduction Rasmus Lerdorf PHP Advanced Rasmus Lerdorf Using autoconf, automake and friends. Malcolm Tredinnick The Unreliable Guide to Kernel Hacking Paul "Rusty" Russell Using Sweep: Fun with Scrubby Conrad Parker The Ins and Outs of PostgreSQL Gavin Sherry Thursday, 23rd January 2003 =========================== Reverse Engineering Techniques Andrew Tridgell My computer is bigger than yours! Martin Schwenke Making the right sort of difference: bugs Telsa Gwynne and what to do with them Sweep: Real-world audio editing on Linux Conrad Parker more, More, MORE! - Porting Hints and Horror Bdale Garbee Stories from the Debian Project ARQuake - Outdoor Augmented Reality Gaming Wayne Piekarski $100,000 OUT OF THE WINDOW? YOU Philip Hart CANNOT BE SERIOUS! Teaching Software Engineering using David Glance Open Source Software Dynamic Feedback in LVS Jeremy Kerr Pretend Systems doing real Work Dan Shearer Dynamic Probes - Debugging by Stealth Suparna Bhattacharya What is that CONFIG_HAMRADIO thing anyway? Hugh Blemings A Linux users guide to Ham Radio DHCPv6 for Linux Suresh Kodati Q&A Session Friday, 24th January 2003 ========================= Herding Wild Cats and Related Adventures Bdale Garbee An Inside Look at the Debian Project The Boston Consulting Group/OSDN Hacker Survey Jeff "Hemos" Bates initramfs, klibc and early userspace H. Peter Anvin Towards full NTFS semantics in Samba Andrew Tridgell Useful kernel audits Alan Cox Putting a filesystem into a device driver Greg KH PHP Printing with PDF Rasmus Lerdorf Biometrics and Linux Alexander Reeder Perdition: A Mail Retrieval Proxy Simon "Horms" Horman Zeroconf networking Brad Hards Problems in Open Source Licensing Jeremy Malcolm High Availability using Reliable Server Pooling Thomas Dreibholz Who wants another filesystem Neil Brown Saturday, 25th January 2003 =========================== Hacking the kernel and looking cool whilst Paul "Rusty" Russell driving a fast car distcc Martin Pool I'll Do It Later: Softirqs, Tasklets, Bottom Matthew Wilcox Halves, Task Queues, Work Queues and Timers The Linux Kernel Device Model Patrick Mochel Sequel Syndrome: The GNOME Project Grows Up Jeff Waugh Linux at the Little End of the World Malcolm Tredinnick EggMenu James Henstridge Katie, open-source revision control system Geoffrey D. Bennett Design of the Portable.NET Interpreter Rhys Weatherley Developing network applications under UNIX Adrian Chadd Debian Mini-conf ================ DPL State of the Nation Address Bdale Garbee Debian and Ham Radio Bdale Garbee Debian package cache with apt-cacher Jonathan Oxer "Hopefully enough stuff to fill the allotted Paul "Rusty" Russell time" FAI - unattended Debian installations Niall Young IPv6 in Debian Trent "Lathiat" Lloyd IPv6 Mini-conf ============== Writing IPv6 Network Applications Trent "Lathiat" Lloyd IPv6 Tunnel Broker Anand Kumria IPv6 for Everyone Anand Kumria Enabling a Campus LAN for IPv6 Grahame Bowland --- End ---

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Fw: Re: [Alug] PCI ADSL modems
by Steve Fosdick 13 Apr '03

13 Apr '03

On Sun, 13 Apr 2003 00:44:27 -0000 MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Steve Fosdick <lists(a)pelvoux.nildram.co.uk> wrote: > > Debian source, patched it, and build it into a binary package which > > I could install in place of the normal Debian one. It is working > > fine with both PPPoA for ADSL and standard dialup. > > Remember to mark the package as "hold" if you use apt-get at all. You > can do this through one of the front-ends (not sure whether dselect > can, though), or I think it's echo "pppd hold" | dpkg --set-selections > if you feel like brute force. You should check the fine manual before > believing me, though. I just checked in aptitude and it seems to have aquired hold status automatically, unless in a brief moment of inspiration I thought to do this myself. When building the package I did look to see if there was any easy way of setting the package version so it was obvious it was an unoffical package but I didn't see such a thing. Anyone know if this is easy? > Actually, I remember someone complaining on another IRC channel about > this problem, but I don't remember if there was another solution. > Such is the trouble with IRC for technical questions. My guess is that it is to do with the fact that the symbol is a BSS symbol rather than a normal text or data symbol, but that doesn't provide a solution. Actaully, since my last e-mail I have remembered another small issue with the Conexant Tigris drivers - one is supposed to be able to get status information from /proc/net/atm/CnxAdsl:0 but if I try to cat this file it dies with a segmentation fault with syslog indicating that a NULL pointer dereference is happening within the kernel. Kudos to Linus and the other kernel contributors that the kernel can recover from errors like this by killing the process that invoked the faulted code. This bug also doesn't seem to make any difference to the actual operation of the card and sufficient status information seems to be available from the /proc/CnxAdslDebugQuery file. Steve.

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Re: [Alug] PCI ADSL modems
by Steve Fosdick 13 Apr '03

13 Apr '03

On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 18:24:05 +0100 Jonathan McDowell <noodles(a)earth.li> wrote: > Update: I've just used these drivers with a Dabs Value PCI ADSL modem in > a Debian Woody box successfully. Main hassle was getting a version of > pppd that supports PPPoATM, but aside from that it wasn't too bad. I also have the Dabs Value PCI ADSL modem working. My kernel version is 2.4.20 and I didn't need to apply any kernel patches at all. The Debian atm-tools package supplies the necessary libatm.so. For me the two points of slight difficulty were: 1. The Debian ppp package doesn't support PPPoA. I was able to find a patch against the version of pppd used in Debian so I downloaded the Debian source, patched it, and build it into a binary package which I could install in place of the normal Debian one. It is working fine with both PPPoA for ADSL and standard dialup. 2. For some reason building the kernel pppoatm driver as a module didn't work because modprobe couldn't find the pppoatm_ioctl_hook symbol. I posted a separate message about this on 5th April. This is not a showstopper though as it works correctly with ATM support including PPPoA compiled into the kernel. Steve.

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SuSe 8.2
by Jamie French 12 Apr '03

12 Apr '03

Hi Guys, Hope all is well! I am looking to get hold of SuSe 8.2, largely for the inclusion of MainActor. Can anyone recommend a source to obtain a copy? Amazon do have it, but thought I would see if there are any other sources. Take Care, Jamie

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Re: [Alug] PCI ADSL modems
by Wayne Stallwood 12 Apr '03

12 Apr '03

On Sunday 02 March 2003 11:32, Chris Walker wrote: > I'm about to buy an ADSL modem - wymondham has been enabled at last - but > I'm confused about what to buy. I bought a conexant internal PCI ADSL modem a while ago as it advertised Linux compatability on the box and I was (at the time) fed up with the Alcatel Frog modem. However when I got it home I discovered that "Linux Compatable" meant a couple of kernel modules suppiled (no source) and only available for two kernels neither of which I wanted to run. Grrrrrr Even if it did have binary drivers for my kernel, I would be hesitant to use it as I would only ever be able to upgrade when they decide to complie new modules. So it sits unused and unwanted on my shelf.

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Re:need help with sparcbook2...
by lea Gardner - Dennant 12 Apr '03

12 Apr '03

does anyone know of how to install a clean sunOS4 over the network onto a passworded sparcbook2? (network primarily runs windblows/disc-less linux at present, but will soon have running sun enterprise 450 server.) this one is baffling guys, so any help would be much appreciated <mailto:leagard@lycos.com> -- On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 06:25:11 main-request wrote: >Send main mailing list submissions to > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk > >You can reach the person managing the list at > main-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of main digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: RAM Disks (Keith Watson) > 2. P2P Search Engines (BenE) > 3. Re: RAM Disks (xs(a)kittenz.org) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:13:13 +0100 >From: Keith Watson <kpwatson(a)ukfsn.org> >To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk >Subject: Re: [Alug] RAM Disks > >On Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:46:13 +0100 >xs(a)kittenz.org wrote: >> >> They are very fast, and their contents easily removed. This makes >> them good filesystems for /tmp. >> > >sounds interesting, can you point me in the direction of some material that >explains this in more detail? > >Cheers > >Keith > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:10:37 +0100 (BST) >From: BenE <mail(a)psychoferret.freeserve.co.uk> >Reply-To: mail(a)psychoferret.freeserve.co.uk >To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk >Subject: [Alug] P2P Search Engines > > >(I hope this gets through, I've just installed/configured exim ::grin::) > >There's a thread on another list I'm on, with regards to the recent >google stories on the register, about open source search engines. Has >anyone had any experience of any? I notice theres a few about, but none >I've heard of. > >A few people have suggested that a peer to peer search engine might be a >good solution (mostly for decentralisation reasons). Does anyone have any >thoughts? Good? Bad? Impossible? It's certainly an interesting idea IMO. >Might be worth giving it a go to see if it's feasable. > >BenE > > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 22:47:52 +0100 >From: xs(a)kittenz.org >To: Keith Watson <kpwatson(a)ukfsn.org> >Cc: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk >Subject: Re: [Alug] RAM Disks > >on Fri, Apr 11, 2003 at 08:13:13PM +0100, Keith Watson wrote: >> On Mon, 7 Apr 2003 10:46:13 +0100 >> xs(a)kittenz.org wrote: >> > They are very fast, and their contents easily removed. This makes >> > them good filesystems for /tmp. >> >> sounds interesting, can you point me in the direction of some material that >> explains this in more detail? > >http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/November1999/article124.html is similar >to how I remember doing it with 2.2.x. It may have changed since >then. /usr/src/linux/Documentation/ramdisk.txt documents some >of it. > > > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >main(a)lists.alug.org.uk >http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ >http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > > >End of main Digest > ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus

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strange window maximising question
by BenEBoy 10 Apr '03

10 Apr '03

Evening all, I don't suppose anyone knows of a way to control the way a window maximises in X (using fluxbox to be precise)? I'm trying to find a way to make sure no windows obscures gkrellm on my desktop when maximised, so I can keep an eye on my new mail indicator (amongst other things). Conversely, I don't really want gkrellm to obscure other windows either. The man pages etc. didn't mention anything about this so I'm guessing it would involve hacking the X/fluxbox code. I thought I'd just check with you lot first, just in case theres a head slappingly simple solution ;-) Cheers, BenE

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