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Backup Strategies
by Keith Watson 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

When making significant changes to an existing system (e.g. kernel builds or major software changes), what backup* strategies do you adopt to protect yourself from knackering the whole thing? I know this will depend a lot on what hardware is available but is there a commonly accepted approach? At the moment I've got enough space on another HD to completely duplicate the whole partition (apart from a small /boot partition the whole of my system is in a single partition). I've been using PartitionMagic to do this but, as it's a Windows app, I'd like to use a GNU/Linux approach. Any ideas? * 1st time round I typed this as 'buckup', it occurred to me that all I needed to do was change the first consonant and it would be a better reflection of the entire process. Reminds me of way back when I was submitting batch COBOL compile jobs, the job output listings used to come back headed "System Complication Output". :o) Regards, Keith ____________ 'I can see nobody on the road.' said Alice. 'I only wish I had such eyes,' said the King 'to be able to see Nobody! And at that distance too!' Lewis Carroll

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Re: [Alug] Re: RE: windows management
by Ben Norcutt 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

As someone thats worked with these products I believe it's more than me saying thats how it was for me. These things are all setup the same so if I wasn't restricted from running setup.exe from cd then it wasn't restricted however I will conceed that the original statement is partially correct the RM windowbox systems which is their peer to peer network for primary schools does stop you running certain things like poledit.exe without phoning RM with a key to which they will give you a password. Ben >Ben Norcutt <ben(a)plextech.co.uk> wrote: > Yes not being able to run setup.exe from a cd was imagined. This certainly > wasn't the case with the connect 2.4 networks that I worked with anyway. >It's hard to give conclusive proof that anecdotes are >false, isn't it? All you can say is "that's not how it was for me" and that's >fine. Trying to claim that it didn't happen at all risks making you look foolish. >My Opinion Only. >MJR

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UDMA 100, etc.
by Ricardo Campos 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

After my dodgy HD, I'm thinking of buying a new HD. My motherboard can only handle ata33, but I'm thinking if I invest in a new HD, I might as well get an ATA100 one and use it at the lower speed- I'll probably buy a new motherboard (&new CPU, etc) that can in a year or so anyway. Am I right in thinking that ATA100 hd's will work on a ata33 board? Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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kernel panic! Oh poo.
by Ricardo Campos 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

Today, as I booted my box, it said that the kernel was using the wrong compression format and halted. So I rebooted, and the dmesg came up with lots of: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } Right at the end, we have: VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1(22,0) It booted, but some files just weren't there anymore. i.e. it had mount, but not umount. So I thought, bugger that, saved the dmesg, and rebooted. I was greeted with:- Kernel Panic! VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:01 It suggested to run e2fsck, so I did using a tomsrtbt rescue floppy. Fine. It 'fixed' a LOT on hda1. Reboot, Kernel Panic! no init found... SoI'm figuring that it's pretty much destroyed the data on hda1. Or, as I like to mount it, / Bugger. So I guess it's reinstall time for me, that way, I guess, I could possibly save /home . Or do people think it may be a hardware problem? Oh poo. TIA Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] UDMA 100, etc.
by Ricardo Campos 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

> have a box acting as an interface running nothing at all except internet > connection stuff, so that everything on the internal network is hidden > behind it. you might want to try apt-get install firestarter, if you're running woody (might be in potato). It's possibly the easiest firewall s/w you cound ever use (i.e. takes about 30 seconds). Of course, a custom hand-written script is best, but to get a home connection going I'd highly recommend it. You'll need a 2.4.x kernel, though, as it uses iptables. Of course, it's a bit overkill on dial-up! I tend to leave mine connected from friday 6pm to monday 8am (as it's free), so I use it 'just in case'. Also it means my laptop (which has no modem) can have net access. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] UDMA 100, etc.
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

Ricardo wrote: >Thanks, now I just need to find the cash. Does anyone >want to buy a grandmother? She's housetrained and very >knowledgeable about the war. I also have a spare kidney >(slightly damaged). ;) Sure, how much? Would you swap for a sack of soya beans? I've been reading about linux security, and apparently the best way is to have a box acting as an interface running nothing at all except internet connection stuff, so that everything on the internal network is hidden behind it. I had dreams of turning my current cobbled-together old box at home into the firewall beast, and buying a big fast shiny new computer and running a distro on it that I can start looking at desktop stuff on - I've only ever piddled around with command line so far really apart from mozilla. Then when our primary school decides to try linux I can sweep round and show the kids redhat running word editors or whatever :-) Anyone want to buy a broken motorbike? Buyer collects (from France). Jen.

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Re: [Alug] UDMA 100, etc.
by Ricardo Campos 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

> > Am I right in thinking that ATA100 hd's will work on a > > ata33 board? > > Yup. Thanks, now I just need to find the cash. Does anyone want to buy a grandmother? She's housetrained and very knowledgeable about the war. I also have a spare kidney (slightly damaged). ;) Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Apologies for Absence from Meeting of 14th
by John Seago 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

I'm afraid that I shall not be able to attend the next meeting of ALUG as I will be at a Field Shoot, (Archery), on that day. -- John Seago

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Re: RE: windows management
by Ben Norcutt 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

Hi, Yes not being able to run setup.exe from a cd was imagined. This certainly wasn't the case with the connect 2.4 networks that I worked with anyway. Cheers, Ben

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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