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Re: MS Story In EDP
by Ben Norcutt 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

As someone that works as a network manager in a secondary school in Norwich I can say that the IT support brach for the schools has a hard enough time with windoze. Cheers, Ben

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Buglary
by Ian Thompson-Bell 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

We went out for two hours today and when we returned we discovered we had been burgled. Amongst other things the took my Lifetec PIII 233 laptop with 12gig drive and w98/Mandrake 7.2 dual boot, also my Sharp SL5000D Linux PDA that I showed some of you a few meetings ago and lastly a standalone Iomega 250Mbyte zip drive. If you are offered any of these cheaply or see something similar at a car boot sale please let me know. Ian

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Printing from Windows XP via Samba
by Chris Glover 11 Jul '02

11 Jul '02

Hi, I've just spent the past three hours trying to get this to work... If you have installed Windows XP, and are trying to print to a samba shared printer, and getting an "Access Denied" message, the solution is:- Add the following to the printers section of smb.conf printer admin = <username> This can be a comma separated list of users The reason being is that XP port let you connect to any shared printers unless the user has admin rights on that printer. Just thought I'd share this, in case anybody else was getting as frustrated as I was! Chris :-) Chris ************************************************************************ *** E Mail Chris(a)glovercc.clara.co.uk WWW http://www.glovercc.clara.co.uk Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject. -Anon

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Re: [Alug] Re: MS Story In EDP
by David Fairey 11 Jul '02

11 Jul '02

> As someone that works as a network manager in a secondary school in Norwich > I can say that the IT support brach for the schools has a hard enough time > with windoze. There have been alot of success stories with using the Linux Terminal Server project (www.ltsp.org) and the K12-LTSP distribution (www.k12ltsp.org) in schools and colleges. This basically uses any PC as the client that the students use, which boots over the network and all applications run on a pretty decent spec server. Education programs that still run under Windows can run under emulations like vmware, win4lin, wine, etc. Now that there is a excellent "office suite" in OpenOffice.org there hardly seems a reason not to consider it. I can't see why these can't be deployed in our schools, it would certainly cut down on the maintenance of client machines, leaving more time to educate the users. And can increase the use of PCs donated from local companies (once Windoze is properly removed) as the clients hardly need powerful processor or graphics cards. Any money saved on Windows licences can be put into buying one or more well-specified application servers to cover the whole school. Cheers. David.

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Re: MS Story In EDP
by NuTTeR -- Not Entered -- 11 Jul '02

11 Jul '02

> As someone that works as a network manager in a secondary school in Norwich > I can say that the IT support brach for the schools has a hard enough time > with windoze. > > Cheers, > > Ben Well if the government used free software exclusivly then all the ££ saved could go into improving the software and paying for support. What about if we started a kind of free summer school in computing for people of any age. We could give out free copys of Linux to the attenders maybe even charge a small fee that would go to the FSF or some other organization. i would be happy to help somthing like this out but i would never get round to doing anything if it was upto me. This would increas awarness of GNU/Linux by alot... its just a case of finding the time, people and a place. Dennis Dryden ------------------- http://home.graffiti.net/ddryden/index.html <-- simple and free Game. ------------------- -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze

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Free software and schools
by tom potts 11 Jul '02

11 Jul '02

Dont get your hopes too high: As far as I can tell theres only two MPs who can tell a modem from an elephant (Tam Dallyell and Chri Mole -Ipswich!). The goverment/civil servants combined with PFI seems to result in criminally stupid initiatives - how the hell EDS could get £600M OVER budget on a web page to collect tax information is beyond me. I've tried to get local schools to look at FS but there seems to be the problem with the teachers not actually wanting to learn anything. I dont know if you read the comment from an IT teacher who said it took several hours each week to mark multiple choice exams - Excuse me - your in IT automate it!! I dont do emoticons but there isnt one for the face I pulled at that one anyway! I think the only real hope is to lead by example -start/go along to the local computer club - when the kids discover what they can get for free to run on old pcs and with luck in ten years time there will be people out there who will go into business and make computersand software usefull for the customer not the supplier. Or better still have as much fun as I do! Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Re: [Alug] MS Story In EDP
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 11 Jul '02

11 Jul '02

Craig wrote: >Unfortuantly but if you mention the fact Linux is free and they would >think 'money saved!'. Haven't you read "In the beginning was the command line"? The linux users stand on a corner shouting "drive away a free tank, reliable, powerful, completely free..." and everyone backs off muttering "get away from me, you weirdos" whilst heading for the nice corner where m$ are selling bicycles with bolt-on engines in a familiar, safe capitalist environment. Or something. ;-) Jen.

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Re: [Alug] Buglary
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 11 Jul '02

11 Jul '02

>We went out for two hours today and when we returned we discovered we had >been burgled. Amongst other things the took my Lifetec PIII 233 laptop with >12gig drive and w98/Mandrake 7.2 dual boot, also my Sharp SL5000D Linux PDA >that I showed some of you a few meetings ago and lastly a standalone Iomega >250Mbyte zip drive. Commiserations, Ian - we had a motorbike stolen from our garage a few weeks ago, and that felt bad enough. Jenny.

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Announce digest, Vol 1 #20 - 2 msgs
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 11 Jul '02

11 Jul '02

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: [peterboro] Linux Expo (MJ Ray) 2. ANNOUNCE: ALUG in King's Lynn 2pm Sunday 14th July (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 11:10:23 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce] Fwd: [peterboro] Linux Expo A similar question for ALUGgers: is anyone going? I'll make a LinuxExpoOlympia page for people to sign up on. Maybe we can meet for the pub at lunchtime again? From: Ben Hayes <Ben.Hayes(a)MisysIM.co.uk> Subject: [peterboro] Linux Expo Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 17:51:46 +0100 For those who are interested, the 2002 Linux Expo at Olympia is scheduled for October 9th & 10th. The website has now been updated to take reservations. The url is: http://www.linuxexpouk.co.uk As usual, this is free. I just hope this year, we will see bigger names at the Expo (i.e. Red Hat, Mandrake, Sun, HP, LinuxCare, etc, etc). Anyone interested in going this year? --__--__-- Message: 2 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 21:26:04 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce] ANNOUNCE: ALUG in King's Lynn 2pm Sunday 14th July The next Anglian LUG meeting will be on Sunday 14th July 2002 1400-1730 at North Lynn Discovery Centre, King's Lynn, Norfolk The meeting will consist of demonstrations, debugging and short discussions centred around: - building from source - contributing to free software projects - networking, connection sharing and samba - Linux on palmtop devices (Exact lineup on the day subject to confirmation. Anticipate four 30 minute round-table sessions. Feel free to bring kit, but label it and at your own risk.) For directions and more details about the meeting, please see http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?July%2014th http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?NorthLynn http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?AlugMeetings HELP PUBLICISE US! If you can display a poster for this meeting, please print http://mjr.towers.org.uk/alug/alug-jul02.pdf and if you want a more general poster, try http://mjr.towers.org.uk/alug/alug-gen.pdf Maybe you could add this meeting's details to your sig? -- MJR --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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MS Story In EDP
by Matt Parker 11 Jul '02

11 Jul '02

There's a front cover story in today's EDP about MS's upcoming charging policy for schools. This link should work, may wrap - http://www.edp24.co.uk/content/News/NewsStory.asp?Brand=EDPONLINE&Category=… The local MP is saying it's going to cost too much to buy MS. We should all e-mail the EDP at EDPLetters(a)archant.co.uk (they're bound to print at least one) pointing out the availability, usability, and lack of cost associated with Linux. Send them this link - http://www.k12ltsp.org/ - or something like it to show previous success in schools. Let's all advocate our favourite OS and kick MS out of our schools. (Save on some tax £££s too while we're at it). Matt

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