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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 17 Jun '02

17 Jun '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [Alug] Xplanet (a bit off topic)
by Ricardo Campos 14 Jun '02

14 Jun '02

> > http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/ > > You might also like to try http:///www.heavens-above.com Many thanks to all... now if anyone knows how to turn the lattitude 52.628 to the 52.(direction).628 notation, please e-mail me off-list ;)... -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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So, what died?
by Richard George 13 Jun '02

13 Jun '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 My PC is currently a very sick penguin; I think that the HDD has died, but I also have my suspicions that it could be the IDE interface. Short of swapping drives (as I don't have a spare), can anyone hazard a guess as to how I work this out, or if it could be something else entirely? Errors include (from memory) {hdb: drive not ready error} Typing 'ls' returns a set of io errors, one naming each file in the directory. Typing 'clear' (or mount, etc) returns 'command not found' Shutting down gives me a console that repeats 'ext3 journal aborting' ad infinitum. Eventually I just powered it off. TIA for any help, Richard - -- http://www.fromtheshadows.com/ Fingerprint: 542C ADA9 47CE 7AA8 2274 PGP Key http://www.fromtheshadows.com/gpg 496A FC43 312C 3D94 2CC8 The less you know about something, the easier it is to hate and fear it. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9CGCM/EMxLD2ULMgRAvQOAJ0dz7Xtvn3b+VPSWB2Bt3s3dPOcvQCeJpj7 azvEsglkX1pzn6CP2228avE= =MR+A -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [Alug] Debian security
by Ricardo Campos 13 Jun '02

13 Jun '02

> stable is *old*. It's missing pretty much every bug introduced > anywhere in about the last two years, a luxury that any more recent > distribution doesn't have. Like:- http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/25608.html ;-) > (Of course, it's also missing most features introduced in anything > during the last two years.) Which is why I run testing. stable would be fine for servers, but I like using my home computer to the best of it's abilities. > If you're not running stable - well, security.d.o doesn't have updates > for testing and unstable. Well, surely *someone's* scrutinising the security of the new packages? And Woody was set to be frozen in May... -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] retry: So what died?
by Ricardo Campos 13 Jun '02

13 Jun '02

> Shutting down gives me a console that repeats 'ext3 journal aborting' ad > infinitum. Eventually I just powered it off. I assume dmesg and /var/log/messages provide no clues? Can you turn off journalling? Perhaps you could try booting from a rescue floppy/CD and mount the drive and see if you get the errors still. *realises that someday it will probably happen to him* -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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retry: So what died?
by Richard George 13 Jun '02

13 Jun '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If I can persuade pine to send this from the right account, this time... (and apologies to the moderator) My PC is currently a very sick penguin; I think that the HDD has died, but I also have my suspicions that it could be the IDE interface. Short of swapping drives (as I don't have a spare), can anyone hazard a guess as to how I work this out, or if it could be something else entirely? Errors include (from memory) {hdb: drive not ready error} Typing 'ls' returns a set of io errors, one naming each file in the directory. Typing 'clear' (or mount, etc) returns 'command not found' Shutting down gives me a console that repeats 'ext3 journal aborting' ad infinitum. Eventually I just powered it off. TIA for any help, Richard - -- http://www.fromtheshadows.com/ Fingerprint: 542C ADA9 47CE 7AA8 2274 PGP Key http://www.fromtheshadows.com/gpg 496A FC43 312C 3D94 2CC8 A friend is someone who knows how to distract a runaway brain - Millie -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9CGKJ/EMxLD2ULMgRAlcwAJ9MmM6+cdYIsgsKW3CEfkUniKypYACfSqEl 5s1MDt/dYUZLihEdWOQ7OgY= =28A5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Debian security
by Ricardo Campos 13 Jun '02

13 Jun '02

I just had a thought- I still get updates from Redhat about vulnerablilities on their system- often 2 or 3 a week. And I was wondering- how come I don't keep having updates for Debian? I have security.debian.org in my sources.list, but apt-get upgrades rarely downloads anything. Surely more vulnerabilities exist? Am I missing something? -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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RIP Act
by Ricardo Campos 12 Jun '02

12 Jun '02

Sorry about this, but this is an issue regarding all IT professionals, all users of encryption and in fact all people in our country. Please read the article and forward this message to anyone who might be interested. >http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/06/11/156240&mode=thread&tid=158 > This comment http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=34017&cid=3679592 has > the necessary links for you to do your bit... -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Xearth prog
by Paul 12 Jun '02

12 Jun '02

Hi Folks Saw a neat world map running on a laptop that could plot user defined points and lines on it. Where can I get the source code for it ?? Regards, Paul.

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Tar - Argument list too long
by Ashley 11 Jun '02

11 Jun '02

I have a CD with a number of files on. I am trying to extract a list for files with a certain extension and then copy them to another location with the directory structure intact. To do this I choose tar and find: cd /mnt/cdrom tar -cf ~ash/test.tar `find . -name "*.dwg" -print` This would create a tarball, which I could copy, and expand into a new location. However, on running the command the following error is returned: "/bin/tar Argument list too long" There are probably around 4000 files on the CD with a .dwg extension. How can I get around this problem? Is there a better solution to what I am trying to achieve? -- Ashley T. Howes, Ph.D http://www.ashleyhowes.com "when all the animals of this world are gone, man will die of loneliness"

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