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Fw: lower spec linux
by Glen Tyler 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

Hi all, I'm looking to put Linux onto a couple of i486s with 16 and 12 MB RAM, and 420MB HDDs. I have got RH7.2 but that won't install on these machines. I'm looking for something older (maybe RH 6.0/6.2 ish), or some other distro that is suited to this type of machine. If anyone has any old discs around that they don't want I'd gladly refund postage etc... I have never used Debian, or Slackware although I'm told that they might be best for this purpose. Sorry can't make the install days, I don't live close enough by. many thanks Glen

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CGI perl script help needed....
by Simon 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

Hi Everyone... I've been asked to do a cgi in perl that will create and delete user accounts.. So I've setuid a script, but can't get it to add users using a system call.. system("/usr/sbin/useradd", "-g 45 -s /bin/false -d /home/popusers/users/goresmail/<userid here>"); The apache error log is saying there no such group 45, when there is.. The command works fine at the command line, I'm just stuck as to what I'm missing or doing wrong... TIA Simon

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Re: July meeting // was Re: [Alug] Install day 2k2 - first report
by Dryden 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

>2. Would fenland people like an informal local meeting in late June? I know >there are some other LUGgers out here (including some interesting ones I've >not seen for a few meetings) and I'm very aware that we still don't have >anywhere in Cambs or W.Norfolk, so I'd suggest just meeting up in a pub >(pref near a railway station) one evening or weekend day. Good/bad idea? >MJR Good idea id say but what town? on of the towns along the kings Lynn to london(kings cross?) line? What about eely(bad sqelling sorry)? You can even get a train from Norwitch or thetford i think. Dennis Dryden ********************************************************************** IMPORTANT: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please telephone us immediately. The contents of this email and attachments represent the views of the sender and are not necessarily the representative of the views of The College of West Anglia **********************************************************************

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Re: [Alug] Sorry...
by Ricardo Campos 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

>Well, actually... did we get a successful install? :-/ Well, if we disregard X, then we did have at least one... (Off to find out how to set up a Guillemot Hercules 3D Prophet Kyro2 series graphics card.... meant to be nvidia but doesn't work as one grrrr) Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Today's meeting
by MJ Ray 09 Jun '02

09 Jun '02

I will be bringing: As much of the ALUG library as I have. New additions include the userfriendly.org comic book "The Root Of All Evil". Other people with library books, please bring them with you if you come. Some posters and stickers. A bundle of Mandrake CDs. 8.1 anniversary and 8.2 download. Couple of paper-thin mousemat things -- all must go! Four i386 binary sets of Debian 2.2... would love to get a 3.0 preview if anyone has one.

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Another spammer nuked
by Paul 09 Jun '02

09 Jun '02

Hi Folks Last weekend I received an email with the subject header of:- Need Leads - Sales? Here's A Solution From: "paul.corner" <paul.corner(a)tesco.net> Extremely annoyed when I saw the "From" field, I decided to try to track the b****d down that was forging my name. The trail left in the email header proved to be next to useless as was to be expected. A google search of the IP address the miscreant had included in the spam provided a little info - One link indicated that you would be forwarded on to another site where a vb script would infect your system and harvest the address book. Going to the IP address - http://32.97.166.75/usinet.chan44, I was indeed redirected somwhere. This was turning in to a tiresome trail as the initial java script did not produce any useable IP info.... Going back to the first IP address of 32.97.166.75, I quickly found it to be an AT&T server with a UK based service center provided by IBM. A short email to IBM pointing out that their services were being used in propogating viruses and in time the practise would damage their corporate reputation. Some small success can be reported - IBM has removed the full URL from their server - A slap in the face of the bastard that faked MY address. Regards, Paul. Another 25+ spams tonight to work my way through for a UK connection.

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Re: [Alug] X server: connection refused
by Ricardo Campos 09 Jun '02

09 Jun '02

> ("su -" didn't tho, still got the error). "su -" worked for me, but it would only launch it in the terminal. "su -m" allowed me to have xemacs. I guess I could have ssh'd in, and I don't have sudo installed. Still "su -m" solved the problem adequately enough. Thanks! Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Apologies
by John Seago 08 Jun '02

08 Jun '02

Please accept my apologies for absence from tomorrows meeting, I shall be shooting a competition and thus unable to attend. -- John Seago

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Announce digest, Vol 1 #18 - 5 msgs
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 08 Jun '02

08 Jun '02

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. New Linux supplier to businesses based in the UK (John Hully) 2. Fwd: Association For Free Software (AFFS) becomes associate of the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSF Europe) (MJ Ray) 3. alug, hello and install day (dave.griffiths) 4. Fw: Eurolinux UK patent consultation alert (Ricardo Campos) 5. Linux Install Day 2002 -- UEA, 9th June, 2pm (MJ Ray) --__--__-- Message: 1 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: "John Hully" <john.hully(a)briggs-hully.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 16:01:34 +0100 Reply-To: "John Hully" <john.hully(a)briggs-hully.co.uk> Subject: [Alug Announce] New Linux supplier to businesses based in the UK Hello, I'm following the instructions on http://www.lug.org.uk/contacts.html to contact the UK LUG community in order to inform them that http://www.linuxforsale.com is opening for business, and will soon have an online store. The site is aimed at the business community primarily, but everyone is invited to visit. Regards, John --__--__-- Message: 2 To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 10:03:34 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce] Fwd: Association For Free Software (AFFS) becomes associate of the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSF Europe) Yay! Subject: Association For Free Software (AFFS) becomes associate of the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSF Europe) From: "Georg C. F. Greve" <greve(a)fsfeurope.org> Reply-To: greve(a)fsfeurope.org Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:44:50 +0200 [for immediate release] London/Hamburg, May 22nd 2002 "Association For Free Software (AFFS) becomes associate of the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSF Europe)" The FSF Europe proudly announces that the UK based "Association For Free Software" (AFFS) is now an associate organisation of the "Free Software Foundation Europe" (FSF Europe). AFFS has joined with the FSF Europe to actively support its activities, to work for Free Software in Europe and to facilitate cooperation with organisations in other countries. The AFFS currently focuses on the preparation of PR material to inform the public and to lobby politicians in the UK. Part of this effort is drafting an introduction to Free Software for non-specialists and to prepare demo versions of the Debian GNU/Linux operating system for live demonstrations. Through various liaisons the AFFS is actively involved in bringing the benefits of Free Software especially to schools, other educational institutions, politicians and - of course - the public in the UK, to help create a critical mass of people using Free Software. Members of the AFFS also engage themselves in attending fairs, exhibitions and relevant public and non-public meetings of UK governmental institutions. The aim is to provide a recognised point of contact in the UK for information about Free Software. This is achieved by simultaneously establishing links with the press, MEPs, MPs and local politicians throughout the UK. "Although the AFFS is based in the UK, it fully recognises and appreciates that Free Software is a world wide effort to bring the benefits of the information age to everyone on this planet. This requires international cooperation and coordination. The association with the FSF Europe is probably the most important step yet for the AFFS to achieve this goal." said Dr. Marc Eberhard, a committee member and one of the founders of the AFFS. "Experience indicates that it is crucial for the adoption and understanding of Free Software within a country to have the community of that country organise itself in competent local organisations." said Georg Greve, President of the FSF Europe. "Therefore we were very happy to see the UK community taking the big step forward with the creation of the AFFS and we gladly welcomed them in our network of associate organisations. This brings UK people, press and politics the chance to interface with Free Software and the FSF in a more immediate way than ever before." About the Association for Free Software: The Association for Free Software is a non-profit association with the primary goal of promoting the adoption of Free Software in the UK. More information: http://www.affs.org.uk Contact: AFFS c/o Luminas Ltd 7 Webster Close Norwich NR5 9DF UK Phone: 0709 2312239 About the Free Software Foundation Europe: The Free Software Foundation Europe (FSF Europe) is a charitable non-governmental organisation dedicated to all aspects of Free Software in Europe. Access to software determines who may participate in a digital society. Therefore the freedoms to use, copy, modify and redistribute software - as described in the Free Software definition - allow equal participation in the information age. Creating awareness for these issues, securing Free Software politically and legally, and giving people freedom by supporting development of Free Software are central issues of the FSF Europe, which was founded in 2001 as the European sister organisation of the Free Software Foundation in the United States. More information: http://fsfeurope.org/ Contact: Georg C. F. Greve <greve(a)gnu.org> Tel: +49-40-23809080 Fax: +49-40-23809081 Further press contact information is available at http://fsfeurope.org/press/. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "dave.griffiths" <griffy.uk(a)btopenworld.com> To: <announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 22:26:36 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce] alug, hello and install day Hello to all. I'm Dave Griffiths, I'm 28 and currently living in Marham, near Kings Lynn in Norfolk. I currently use winXP on my home computer but have meddled with linux, with little or no success in the past (Redhat, Mandrake and currently Suse 7.2) I have been onto IRC and chatted in #alug and #brits, probably upsetting a few people but learning also. I am intending to go to the Install day at UEA in june, and I'll bring along my pc if thats ok. Edward has convinced me to ditch suse and try debian, so any help on the day will be more than welcome ! Current PC spec: Asus A7V socket A motherboard Athlon 1.2 @1.4 t-bird cpu 384mb 133 ram 17" compaq monitor 40,30,17 gig ide drives Nvidia geforce3 vid card Hercules Gametheatre XP soundcard Suse does seem to install ok with everything but the soundcard running fine. The soundcard runs on a different driver, and the volume is so low its practically impossible to hear unless plugged into my hi-fi. The only other problems are more my doing through lack of knowledge than the software itself, unlike windows ! I normally use my pc for internet use, gaming, and home/office use with a printer, scanner and digital camera. I am looking to use linux for more of the same, but intend to start learning something useful with my pc, maybe html, perl, c++ or something else, suggestions for a newbie most welcome. Although a total linux newbie, I started out with computers at the age of 7 with a vic-20, progressing to spectrum, atari, amiga, dx2-66 pc all the way to my present machine which i built myself. I often help others at work etc with building and upgrading their home pc's and solving the many windows problems they encounter ! I look forward to learning more in the future. Dave Griffiths --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Ricardo Campos" <corez23(a)linuxmail.org> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 14:37:43 +0000 Subject: [Alug Announce] Fw: Eurolinux UK patent consultation alert This should be of interest to some people. ----- Original Message ----- From: FFII/Eurolinux: Holger Blasum <blasum(a)ffii.org> Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 00:43:46 GMT To: corez23(a)linuxmail.org Subject: Eurolinux UK patent consultation alert Hello Ricardo Campos Recently you signed the European petition against software patents (http://petition.eurolinux.org/) Thanks for your support! We would like to remind you that the UK Patent Office is asking for public comments on the European Commissions proposal for a directive on the "patentability of computer-implementable inventions". You can find some more background information at http://www.linux.org.uk/ http://swpat.ffii.org/players/uk/ The specific questions that the UKPO asks are at http://www.patent.gov.uk/patent/notices/misc/softpat.htm However, in addition to these questions you may also wish to comment on whether you agree to the UKPO's interpretation of the first consultation round, whether you think the admission of patents on "software with a technical effect" will be useful etc. Another hint: Only the last 3 pages of the 22-page Commission document at http://europa.eu.int/comm/internal_market/en/indprop/comp/com02-92en.pdf are the actual proposal, for a more detailed critique see http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat0202/ You may want to state whether you allow, encourage or forbid the UKPO from publishing your statement on their website. You can send an additional copy to petition(a)eurolinux.org so as to have your statement published on the petition page. Moreover you can send your drafts to petition(a)eurolinux.org to ask for our comments. The official deadline is today (07 June 2002, though if you send sth on the weekend it will also arrive by the next working day on Monday), nonetheless maybe keep it short and simple (e.g. citing examples where your company is affected). I apologize this comes very short-termed; if you want to support Eurolinux to do these things (maybe from an UK viewpoint) more long-term in future you are welcome to write to petition(a)eurolinux.org or to me. If you have any questions, feel free to contact us or to join the European software patents mailing list (http://www.aful.org/mailman/listinfo/patents/) Also pls do not hesitate to send any critique or comments to petition(a)eurolinux.org (there will be a confirmation message which hopefully won't deter you). If you like surveys ;-), please tick [ ] I have already written to the UKPO [ ] I will write to the UKPO [ ] I will not write to the UKPO this time [ ] I don't like being "alerted", don't spam me again Kind regards, Holger Blasum, FFII (a Eurolinux member organisation) (Alan Cox and Hartmut Pilch also had endorsed a draft version of this letter.) -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze --__--__-- Message: 5 From: MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> To: announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 22:50:45 +0100 Subject: [Alug Announce] Linux Install Day 2002 -- UEA, 9th June, 2pm [1]ALUG June 9th [ [2]ContribIndex | [3]CitingPages | [4]MainSite | [5]FindPage ] On the 9th of June we will be doing a [6]LinuxInstallDay2002, that means you get to bring your computer along and the team of highly trained Linux experts (aka press-ganged monkeys) will attempt to install Linux on your computer for you. If you do wish to have an install done then please subscribe to the mailing list and say so, then at least we will get an idea of numbers and any strange hardware you may have and can be prepared for it. (Note you don't have to tell the list, It may make the install easier though) The meeting will be at UEA Norwich in Constable Terrace main common room at 2:00pm, hosted by David Casal (and others at UEA?) We should have a fair amount of kit there if you want to come along and take a look at what GNU/Linux is and what it does before you make any commmitment to getting it installed. Hopefully there will be some Demo CDs available to try, too. Discussion If you want to talk about this, please [10]use the mailing list. [11]Back to this section's index [12]Map * Destinations 1. [13]Join ALUG 2. [14]FAQ 3. [15]Meetings * Local LUGs 1. [16]Peterborough 2. [17]Cambridge * Recent Donors 1. [18]Martyn Drake 2. [19]Luminas 3. [20]O'Reilly 4. [21]Mandrake 5. [22]SuSE You may think I'm a dreamer... but I'm not the only one [23]UK LUGs References 1. http://www.alug.org.uk/ 2. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/ 3. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?refs=June%209th 4. http://www.alug.org.uk/ 5. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?FindPage 6. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?LinuxInstallDay2002 10. http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main 11. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/ 12. http://www.alug.org.uk/ 13. http://www.alug.org.uk/background/contacts.html 14. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?AlugFaq 15. http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?AlugMeetings 16. http://www.peterboro.lug.org.uk/ 17. http://www.cam-lug.org.uk/ 18. http://www.drake.org.uk/ 19. http://www.luminas.co.uk/ 20. http://www.oreilly.com/ 21. http://www.linuxmandrake.com/ 22. http://www.suse.com/ 23. http://www.lug.org.uk/ -- MJR --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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