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ALUG Linux Distro CDs
by Martyn Drake 08 Jan '02

08 Jan '02

Hi folks, It occurs to me that we don't have anything on the web site, nor do we have any proper mechanism (other than at meetings where copies can be made) for folk to get hold of Linux distributions. I tend to use the Linux Emporium (http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk) for the majority of my purchases and they are very good. However, I would like to offer the ALUG slightly cheaper discs which I will burn myself and post to anybody that wants them. CDs will cost £2.00, with postage and packing for any number of CDs at £1.50. 1) Red Hat Linux 7.2 (2 x CDs) - £4.00 2) Mandrake Linux 8.1 (3 x CDs) - £6.00 3) Debian Linux Potato 2.2rev4 (3 x CDs) - £6.00 4) Smoothwall Firewall 0.99 (1 x CD) - £2.00 5) FreeBSD 4.4 (4 x CDs) - £8.00 If this goes well, I'd like to add a page to the web site whereby people can purchase these CDs from the web at a much lower rate than Linux Emporium to help encourage use of Linux. Whatever my profits are on this (which will be very small) will be pumped into running the server running ALUG. If people think this is a wacky and pointless idea, then I shall return to my small corner and hide :) However, if anybody is interested in this scheme, then please let me know what CD(s) you'd like and if you'd like to pay by Paypal/NoChex or personal cheque. This has been another hair brained scheme by Quackers Enterprises of Surrey :) Kind regards, Martyn -- Web : http://www.drake.org.uk Web : http://www.martyn-drake.info Web : http://www.alug.org.uk

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Re: [Alug] Re: Next Meeting
by MJ Ray 08 Jan '02

08 Jan '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 John Seago: > If the 27th is settled on, and the venue is to be Cheveley, will this be > another joint meeting with CamLUG? I don't know. Cc'ing them to ask. Cam-LUG, would you like to come out to play with ALUG that Sunday? I really must go to a Cam-LUG meeting one of these days... [CLUG: if you reply to main@...alug you'll be held for approval if you're not subscribed to it. Sorry. spam-trapping etc :-/ ] - -- MJR Anglian LUG http://www.alug.org.uk/ No ePatents http://petition.eurolinux.org/ FSF Europe http://www.fsfeurope.org/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8O016PcY2rvOKXY0RAgJ7AJ0eY7kbkaeB3eDbI/ImT7mp1hTCpACfYmdE V9gHlf9R5p5EKEbUovDzii8= =xc4S -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Next Meeting
by John Seago 08 Jan '02

08 Jan '02

If the 27th is settled on, and the venue is to be Cheveley, will this be another joint meeting with CamLUG? -- John Seago Change is not synonymous with `progress'.

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Re: [Alug] FTP restart
by Ricardo Campos 08 Jan '02

08 Jan '02

> I don't know of a client for Linux but then I've never > looked.. Anybody know of one? http://prozilla.delrom.ro/about.html -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] On-Line Install
by MJ Ray 08 Jan '02

08 Jan '02

tom: > RH will allow this - simply make the install disks, > boot and load the network card and do an nfs install [...] Can you really bring up the PPP link easily from the install system now? That's a big step forwards then. > What might be worth considering is findin something that will 'background' > download files and allow restarts from whatever you've already downloaded. Do you mean that we can't restart if the PPP link drops? Not really usable for most people on dialup in this country then, where periodic kicks and noisy lines are the norm. -- MJR

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On-Line Install
by tom potts 08 Jan '02

08 Jan '02

re MJR: "Yes, getting some shared ISOs is probably useful, although I wish more distributions would follow Debian's lead of starting PPP network installations from nothing more than a few floppies and some hard disk files." RH will allow this - simply make the install disks, boot and load the network card and do an nfs install from RHat. Its still slow but <3 days on ISDN unless you install everything. What might be worth considering is findin something that will 'background' download files and allow restarts from whatever you've already downloaded. THis way you can download the ISO's in the background while your IRC'ng - unless you can type a bit faster than me! Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Re: [Alug] On-Line Install
by MJ Ray 08 Jan '02

08 Jan '02

My bad: > > Do you mean that we can't restart if the PPP link drops? Not really > > usable for most people on dialup in this country then, where periodic > > kicks and noisy lines are the norm. > GNU/GnomeFTP is a goodie for restarts mid file, if there was a way to script I meant restart if the PPP link drops during installation. With a little pestering, debian will restart its downloads from where it got to, as long as the base is installed (so maybe downloading them to hard disk will still be a good idea for us). For scripted general use, wget is quite easy to configure to make it timeout and retry. -- MJR

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Another Linux virus...
by Ricardo Campos 08 Jan '02

08 Jan '02

I guess it's best not to try and use an exploit whose code you don't understand.... http://www.vnunet.com/News/1127965 I wonder how long it will take for someone to engineer a more aggressive virus? (In the sense of self-propagating) _______________________________________________ "There are several codes, and I know several of them." -Mr. Precise. http://www.rscampos.net Check my online diary out: http://www.rscampos.net/blog.html -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Next Meeting - Jan 27?
by MJ Ray 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

Simon: [...] > > Why on earth would anyone want to download 600Mb and only use around 200Mb > > of it? > > So, the answer's simple: use Debian! ;-) > I agree with your comments, but..... Sounds lame, but I'd rather have the > full distro (maybe I'm odd) that way I can get all the extra goodies, bits > and pieces that come along.. Fair enough most of them will never see the > light of day... But I just gotta have em.... How does not having the ones you don't want downloaded stop you getting the ones you do? New goodies (including ones from alternative suppliers) are only ever an apt away. > Anyway I've got to stick with RedHat, company policy etc... Company policy prevents you using better tools for the job? Time to look for a new company... ;^) > P.S. Does anyone know how to get the spell checker working with KMail ? Nope... I'm just going to try to get it working in this email client. Thanks for the idea! -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Next Meeting - Jan 27?
by MJ Ray 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

Simon: > The idea (and reason) is I downloaded the RedHat 7.2 ISO's down an ISDN line > and it took 3 days (including 2 disconnects that I didn't pick up on)... Yes, getting some shared ISOs is probably useful, although I wish more distributions would follow Debian's lead of starting PPP network installations from nothing more than a few floppies and some hard disk files. They're taking it even further in the next version and letting you download the hard disk files after the installation has started, I believe. Why on earth would anyone want to download 600Mb and only use around 200Mb of it? So, the answer's simple: use Debian! ;-) -- MJR

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