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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Netscape 6.2 (Mail & News too)
by Ricardo Campos 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

Here we go again.... Anyone had problems with Netscape 6.2 not saving stuff like bookmarks, the default view you want (i.e. without "My sidebar" etc), or even forgetting mail/news accounts? I can set them up, and then darn it when I close Netscape and fire it up again, it doesn't save them! The permissions of ~/.mozilla imply that the owner (me) should have read/write permissions (and execute on some), so I don't really get it... Still running Mandrake 8.0 as Debian's still being a pig to get X up and running on... "There are several codes, and I know several of them." -Mr. Precise. http://www.rscampos.net -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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RE: [Alug] mbox
by Ricardo Campos 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

Awww... you guys is great!!!! lol ;-) Well, I'm off to repair it using (my favourite text editor- maybe I'll need to put "no HTML e-mails" on my sig SO bulky in a txt editor). Luckily, however, I was able to retrieve the message by the help of Micro$oft... lmao I actually added the pop3 acct to my hotmail acct (linuxmail is blocked by the ISP due to spam) and retrieved it from there- seems Evolution (spit spit) didn't actually d/l the message, just fragged it's own mailbox... I've also got 1.2 MB of spurious Qmail weirdness sent to that mailbox too. you take these risks running beta software, but then someone's gotta do it, right? lol (well, it *does* put up a disclaimer when you run it) again, saved by the LUG... MUCH appreciated, Ricardo "There are several codes, and I know several of them." -Mr. Precise. http://www.rscampos.net -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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mbox
by Ricardo Campos 05 Jan '02

05 Jan '02

Does anyone know of a way I can retrieve mails from an mbox file? Evolution successfully managed to trash my Inbox, and there's a message in there with really important info, which unfortunately cannot be resent. The error I get is: " The folder appears to be irrecoverably corrupted" ...which sounds quite ominous, but I am hoping is not true! eek! help! Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: Firewall security Testing
by tom potts 04 Jan '02

04 Jan '02

http://www.fish.com/satan/ is a nice thing to try on yourself! SATAN stands for Security Administrator Tool for Analyzing Networks Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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UK Govnmt Consultation on Free/Open software
by John Seago 03 Jan '02

03 Jan '02

The papers on this matter can be found at : http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/rfc/rfc_document.asp?docnum=429 http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/interoperability/egif_document.asp?docnum=430 those members who have an opinion on this mater now have an opportunity to make it known to the UK government. John Seago

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I'm Back!
by Brett Parker 03 Jan '02

03 Jan '02

Well, after a spell of not being subscribed to alug (linuxfreemail.com cheerfully refusing mails from certain places) I'm back. Now using my sourceforge address (which redirects to the linuxfreemail.com one) that seems to get round the issue. I suppose I should go catch up on the archive at some point! Cheers. Brett Parker

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Re: [Alug] Firewall Rulesets Are Available
by Ricardo Campos 03 Jan '02

03 Jan '02

> Find a really dodgy IRC channel and say something like "I bet no one > can break into my box!", sit back and watch your logs fill 8). > Maybe I'll see Earl there... ;) lol (joke, mate) Can you imagine the paranoia... (is he a Fed?). I could troll as a 13 year old scriptkiddy.... > Failing that, get a mate to run nmap or nessus (which uses nmap) on your > IP address. If you let me know what it is, I'll do it for you. (Ma ha > ha ha) I'll try and lock it down a bit more, and I'll do just that! My ISP is demon so I always have the same IP anyway. Maybe if I can get my laptop's pcmcia network card working, I could do it from there, or even failing that, put the card in my housemates' Win98 laptop and run some poor quality scanners! ;) Ricardo ------------------ I must be a geek- I think TCP/IP is actually very interesting. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] UK Govnmt Consultation on Free/Open software
by Ricardo Campos 03 Jan '02

03 Jan '02

> Please, before you reply, take note of the arguments put forward at > http://www.alex.uklinux.net/Documents/ > > The author is willing to accept improvemnts and I think this may form the > basis for a combined response. Interesting... I had to read this in Moz rather than IE5.5. lol. Back to the point though... I think that to a certain extent his points are somewhat academic. I work in the public sector so perhaps parts of the document have a little more meaning (QinetiQ implies certain things without explicitly mentioning- it is a public document after all). Yes, they have somewhat missed the point of Free Software, but in all, it is an encouraging report. BELIEVE me. I've been trying to persuade these guys from the inside that licensing costs are going up and do not provide better software, that we need to think of different solutions, etc. To have a report, that although conservative is mostly favourable (and you're can't convince *me* that Linux is a suitable desktop solution YET-but let's not get into that one again) -it's a great advantage to us. Certainly my take on the report is not to criticise it (lest we bore them with nitpicking over licensing etc), but to say "what it fails to mention is this;" and also selling it... let's not get too idealistic (I mean it's only a socialist <cough splutter> govt after all ;) ), but rather talk in their terms which is: 1) Money, and 2) Money (Oh, and if it works, it's a bonus) lol The TCO would plummet amazingly; licensing costs are huge, support will stay the same. It's just not true that *nix people get more money than MCSE's etc (I'm currently 'surveying the job market' and typically people are asking for NT, M$ 2K AND UNIX/Linux experience for an equivalent wage to mine). Hardware, these days, is possibly the cheapest part of the TCO, so overall the TCO WILL go down. Also, I can site an example where a major proprietary application caused one hell of a problem when the software company went belly up and didn't release source code... (eventually they did, for megabuck$!) My two pence.... Ricardo "There are several codes, and I know several of them." -Mr. Precise. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] UK Govnmt Consultation on Free/Open software
by MJ Ray 03 Jan '02

03 Jan '02

John: > The papers on this matter can be found at : > http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/rfc/rfc_document.asp?docnum=429 > http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/interoperability/egif_document.asp?docnum=430 > those members who have an opinion on this mater now have an opportunity to > make it known to the UK government. Please, before you reply, take note of the arguments put forward at http://www.alex.uklinux.net/Documents/ The author is willing to accept improvemnts and I think this may form the basis for a combined response. The QinetQ report is badly flawed and misses the point of Free Software. It's not very surprising that the proposed policy carries these flaws through. Although it calls it Open Source, please remember: there is very little difference between the Open Source Initiative definition and the Debian Free Software Definition. Many of us prefer the less ambiguous term "Free Software", while we wish to see the original idea behind both implemented. -- MJR

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