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Re: [Alug] Security
by MJ Ray 06 Dec '01

06 Dec '01

Adrian: > So the bottom line is that OpenSSH has vulnerabilities too. Oh, I'm quite sure it does, but most of them are limited impact and they are generally different to the ones afflicting the non-free ssh server. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Security
by MJ Ray 06 Dec '01

06 Dec '01

Earl: > SSH - Anything pre 2.0 is vulnerable to a crc32 exploit yielding root > priveliges - upgrade now (30% of SSH Servers are still vulnerable to this > over 1 year since it was first made public). Can you tell me whether openssh versions are also vulnerable? I think http://www.linuxsecurity.com/ is another useful site. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Looking for software
by MJ Ray 06 Dec '01

06 Dec '01

Andrew wrote: > I believe Dia may be close to what you are looking for, try > http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/ I second that. Dia is really quite a nice program for that sort of thing. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] fetchmail
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

Doing it the manual way like this brings up the same errors I was getting last night using the fetchmail I'd just created. My account is trx850.uklinux.net USER trx850 +OK trx850 selected PASS Blahpootle -ERR cucipop: Invalid password or username (check case) I don't need to be old Sherlock to see the password is wrong. It's the one uklinux gave me when I asked them last week (after forgetting it, ha!); maybe they told me wrong, I'll get back to them. LATER This is what UK Linux Support said >I've taken a look through our logs and cannot find any dialin failiurs last dialin was about 10:20 on the 4th. >We've had some "glitches" recently, so I've manually update the your password on the servers. So it can't be the password after all. Well then, I'm stumped. Mark: fetchmail -vvv shows the usual cucipop: Invalid password or username - authorization failure message before quitting. If password isn't wrong, maybe username is some other variation on the possible theme.. Tell you what - this is a jen-being-thick-over-email problem not really a linux one, so I'll shut up now. Thanks for the hints. I'll get there! Jen

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fetchmail
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

Hi All, Look out, I'm in Full Posting Mode today! :-) Thanks to fetchmailconf and Adam's sample .fetchmailrc I have finally got a vague grasp of fetchmail. I got it to go and get mail from my freeserve account nae bother, but am having more difficulty with the new uklinux account. Does anyone have an account with uklinux and also have a fetchmailrc file they could send me a sample of the lines to put in for them? I've tried many flavours of insert but when it gets as far as the server I am turned down on username or password not valid. I'm being dense somewhere. Thanks, jen.

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Security
by Alexis 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

Does anyone know of any attacks which can be made against a machine which only has ports for HTTP and SSH open? Assuming I don't have any silly CGI going on. I'm only considering attacks which give the attacker a foothold. Fx. flooding doesn't count. Thanks, Alexis

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Missing Network Card Library?
by Ian Douglas 05 Dec '01

05 Dec '01

After sitting confused and bewildered as my free Debian cover disk CD asked an apparently never ending series of questions I have finally managed to successfully load it onto a spare disk to try out in my PC. Being very much a Linux newbie and feeling proud and confident after this mammoth achievement I thought I would try installing a network card by hand so I could start to learn a little more about how Linux is configured and works behind the scenes. I eagerly took my PC case apart and excitedly inserted an ancient SMC-Ultra 16 card, then, looking at my notes, saw they said I should login as root, change into the /lib/modules/"kernel version"/net directory, check the file "smc-ultra.o" exists, then issue the command: insmod ./smc-ultra.o before adding "smc-ultra" to /etc/modules, inserting some entries into /etc/network/interfaces and restarting /etc/init.d/networking. However, when I tried the above insmod command I got four error messages: ./smc-ultra.o: unresolved symbol ei_open ./smc-ultra.o: unresolved symbol ethdev_init ./smc-ultra.o: unresolved symbol ei_interrupt ./smc-ultra.o: unresolved symbol NS8390_int My notes, nor my little Debian text book, do not explain these errors, though flicking through other parts of the book I can see hinted after a similar error message that it may be due to "missing libraries". This would not surprise me as it is my first installation of Debian and it is highly likely that I omitted to install something I should have installed. I therefore have a series of questions, as, if I continue to experiment by trying things out by hand (rather than using any easy graphical tools) I think this may be a common problem I will come across. Am I correct in thinking that these errors are due to a "missing library"? If so then how do I determine the name of the library that is missing? Once I know it's name then how do I know where to look for it / discover what package it is included in so I can install it? Finally, if the program I wanted to install was a bit more obscure than a simple network card driver, so it was not supplied on the installation CD, where would be the best place to search on the internet for "libraries"? Sorry if these questions seem a bit stupid to you guys with experience but I guess you were newbies too yourselves many years ago, so please have patience. Ian.

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Re: [Alug] Evolution 1.0 out
by Ricardo Campos 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

>"I tried Evolution for three > months and it ate my inbox". Me too, only after 2 days! Hence my previous "mail clients" post, and the insistence that it does mail, and not all the other bells-and-whistles. Although saying that, Mozilla messenger did this as well. Luckily there was nothing too important in there! -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Environmental Variables
by MJ Ray 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

Syd: > where are these values 'normally' stored? I use quotes because so many > things seem to be distro-specific. I'm using MDK8.0 but info on any distro > would be interesting. I looked in /etc/profile and /etc/bashrc (I think) > but couldn't see anything related. Yes, /etc/profile (or /etc/login for c-shells) is the normal place. You probably won't see a default setting, as if the variable is unset, it defaults to "C", the default (it stands for common, I think) locale. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Evolution 1.0 out
by MJ Ray 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

Andrew: > The Exchange interoperability one is, certainly. Which makes sense, I > guess. It's not available yet (due early 2002) and will be priced at $69 > ($599 for 10 pack, $1499 for 25 pack). Personally, I'm in favour of > this: build a great free client, and then charge a "Microsoft tax" for > those people that insist on hooking up to non-free groupware servers. Can it really cut the mustard, though? It's little use doing this if it's not going to make money. If it's not open and there are bugs in it, are people going to blame the MS server or the small company's connector? While I know where we'd point the finger, I don't think your typical PHB would agree. > [...] Use the money to fund development of a decent free groupware server, > perhaps. Now that would be worth seeing. > I think Evolution *is* a case of doing one thing and doing it well. [...] Reportedly, it's actually a gaggle of little bits with sometimes questionable cohesion and bad control over its components. Is having PIM and email in one location desirable? I find it quite helpful keeping them apart, although having better connectivity to the PIM would be very useful. > [...] As a matter of fact, I'm back to using the mail client I started off > with in 1992, which is still the best IMHO :-) Surely that's just the old cliche that "normal is whatever I'm used to". I don't think PINE is really where it's at any more. It shows it age in some ways and is still non-free, isn't it? -- MJR

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