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Re: [Alug] Next meet ???
by MJ Ray 14 Jan '01

14 Jan '01

"Simon Parkes" <simon.parkes(a)ukonline.co.uk> writes: > Fair enough David, was a bit boring, but this equipment is required when > you manage a server farm, monitoring around 300 machines, running various > strains of web servers etc (Won't go into details this time). Just though > that some people arn't lucky enough to have this sort of equipment available > to have a look at or mess around with. SO be it.. Maybe it's just my email screwing up, but I didn't see the original message, so I'm assuming it was a private one. Although I've been imploring people to "reply to all", sending responses to private messages in public is still a bit taboo... ...and FWIW, I'd be quite interested to see some Netfinity kit one of these days, besides the adverts I'm always getting bombarded with. As people know, while working for the Union, I was trying to work wonders with obsolete kit (and *usually* succeeding), but I'm hoping to have decent things to play with this year (not for the Union, although TSW have just got quite a fun desktop box, eh Brett?) ;-) Anyway, let's try not to be too harsh. If you don't like something someone says, don't answer it... survival of the interesting, not flames... -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Next meet ???
by David Freeman 14 Jan '01

14 Jan '01

Sorry, I didn't mean it quite like that. I was just curious why someone had cisco routers at what I assumed, wrongly, was home, but it would appear they are not used for a simple home network, but more a server farm. sorry if I didn't get this across first time. Following on from this tho, It would be interesting to see this kit at the next meet. Also out of interest what is the cisco kit you have? Thanks D --- Simon Parkes <simon.parkes(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: > Fair enough David, was a bit boring, but this equipment is > required when > you manage a server farm, monitoring around 300 machines, running > various > strains of web servers etc (Won't go into details this time). Just > though > that some people arn't lucky enough to have this sort of equipment > available > to have a look at or mess around with. SO be it.. > > Simon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> > To: <simon.parkes(a)ukonline.co.uk> > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 7:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Alug] Next meet ??? > > > > > > --- Simon Parkes < > wrote: > > > Hi Guy's n Ladies? > > > > > > I'm new to the Anglia area, just moved into Red Lodge (real > sprawling > > > metropolis!!). Been using Linux, both in comercially and private > > > environments and was wondering when the next meet is and where? > I've > > > got a > > > couple of Netfinity 4500's a Netfinity 5500, couple of PC300GL's > all > > > running > > > RH6.0 -> 6.2, various cisco switches and a couple of routers to > have > > > a play > > > with that I could bring along... > > > > Someones showing off :o) > > > > Well I've got... boring > > > > Just out of interest what is it you use this lot for? > > > > Thanks > > > > D > > > > > Simon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] Next meet ???
by Simon Parkes 14 Jan '01

14 Jan '01

Fair enough David, was a bit boring, but this equipment is required when you manage a server farm, monitoring around 300 machines, running various strains of web servers etc (Won't go into details this time). Just though that some people arn't lucky enough to have this sort of equipment available to have a look at or mess around with. SO be it.. Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> To: <simon.parkes(a)ukonline.co.uk> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [Alug] Next meet ??? > > --- Simon Parkes <> wrote: > > Hi Guy's n Ladies? > > > > I'm new to the Anglia area, just moved into Red Lodge (real sprawling > > metropolis!!). Been using Linux, both in comercially and private > > environments and was wondering when the next meet is and where? I've > > got a > > couple of Netfinity 4500's a Netfinity 5500, couple of PC300GL's all > > running > > RH6.0 -> 6.2, various cisco switches and a couple of routers to have > > a play > > with that I could bring along... > > Someones showing off :o) > > Well I've got... boring > > Just out of interest what is it you use this lot for? > > Thanks > > D > > > Simon > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > > Send list replies to alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ >

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Re: [Alug] Next meet ???
by MJ Ray 14 Jan '01

14 Jan '01

When I last bumped into John on IRC (eu.openprojects.net #alug), he suggested Feb 3rd as a possible date for a meeting at Syleham (nice venue details page on new website as soon as it appears). How does that grab people? Is that a possibility, John? Another meeting is pencilled in for UEA on "UK Linux Day", 29th April, which should be a huge installfest with demos. More on that as and when I know it. Initial dayglo website at http://www.linuxday.org.uk/ and that's another one needing help. If you can help with it, get in touch with me and I'll pass the offers on. Corporate members with time (are there any?), I suspect you could probably snarf an ad slot in return. I'd like to see a meeting organised for March and, personally, I'd love to go somewhere new. Anyone able to get a venue and pull it together? (Note: people have chipped in for venues that cost money in the past...) -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Distro's, Hardware and Gaming
by MJ Ray 14 Jan '01

14 Jan '01

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > How would I know weather or not it is loaded? I have /dev/video > /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 are these the cards? lsmod (usually in /sbin) shows what modules are currently loaded. Beyond that, you're way out of my league ;-) -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Distro's, Hardware and Gaming
by David Freeman 13 Jan '01

13 Jan '01

--- Steven Fosdick <fozzy(a)pelvoux.demon.co.uk> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 09:06:43AM -0800, David Freeman wrote: > > > Which Distro would people recommend for ease of install and > > maintainance, also are there any which install the bttv driver as > > default? > > The bttv driver is part of the standard kernel source distribution so > I would be surpised to find it missing from any major distribution. > I > would also expect that most distributions would have it as a loadable > module rather than permanently linked into the kernel. How would I know weather or not it is loaded? I have /dev/video /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 are these the cards? > .... > > > Can I drive the old matrox mystique with the new Geforce at the > same > > time in the same PC? > > Probably. > > X is unlikely to have a problem with this but there may be a catch or > two. As you probably know there are several different X display > servers in XFree86 and which you use depends on the chipsets. Reading a faq on XFree86 4.* it mentioned how it was possible to load module/drivers in dynamically? any suggestions? > If the GeForce card requires different X server from the Mystique > then > you'll have to run one copy of each and the problem then will be how > to share the mouse and keyboard because in X terms you have two > different displays (an X display comprises a screen, mouse and > keyboard). A second mouse is know problem But i don't think i could have a second keyboard, else this wouldn't be a problem. > If they use the same X server then you may be able to configure it so > that there are two screens but only one display and the mouse and > keyboard will then work with eithers screen. Where would I configure them? > The other problem is that one of the cards has to be told not to > implement the standard VGA text mode but to only come to life when it > is switches to frame buffer mode. The VGA text mode uses a specific > part of the address space so if two cards competer for it there will > be trouble. is it not possible to have two consoles? > Another possibility is to make the Mystique the system console, > enable > the kernel framebuffer drivver and then use fbtv to watch TV rather > than an X based client. This might work, I'll investigate this further. Thanks D > Steve. > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Send list replies to alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Distro's, Hardware and Gaming
by David Freeman 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

Having Just ordered a hardware upgrade for my aging 200mhz K2, I was thinking I might treat my self to a decent graphics card at the same time. So I have a couple of questions. Which Distro would people recommend for ease of install and maintainance, also are there any which install the bttv driver as default? Is the GeForce 2 chipset supported under linux? What are there in the way of Linux games available? Can I drive the old matrox mystique with the new Geforce at the same time in the same PC? Thanks D __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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Kernel-2.4.0
by Earl Brannigan 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

Hi All, I've only just joined ALUG, so a quick intro: My name is Earl Brannigan, I work near Newmarket for a small software house and eventually convinced the boss after much effort to go Linux, Now he loves it and we've put together some nice stuff on Linux Web Servers (Not our own page yet mind). But I am now pretty proficient with apache, security etc so we'll see. I run Linux at home - Red-Hat 6-2, and have been doing pretty well with it - until 4am some nights. So here's the problem : Wanting to use my 56k Internal Hardware PCI Modem I eagerly awaited kernel-2.4, and was probably one of the first to grab it from kernel.org in the early morning of Jan 6th. I then spent some time finding and installing the necessary support stuff - especially ppp-2.4. Now having built the kernel, installed the necessary other stuff etc my ppp refuses to work - I get the dial out, the PAP works, then nothing (BTW - My machine is much faster with the new kernel, and the PCI probing etc has improved the functionality of my soundcard - it also talks to my motherboard better (VIA Apollo) and uses my Celery Processor to the max). Looking through the logs I am getting unfound modules for ppp (I also installed modutils-2.4 and ksymoops-2.4) Am I missing something? I use either kppp or rp3 to take care of the connection, which also utilize wvdial I think. Do I need to recompile these packages from source in order to utilize the new ppp libraries? Or do I have to wait for updated versions to be released. If so how do I utilize pppd without them? If anyone has any thoughts/suggestions just push em through, or if you need other info I'd be glad to supply it. Just let me know. Many Thanks. Happy Linuxing Earl

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Re: [Alug] New ALUG Website: Call For Articles & Assistance
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

Mark - always happy to help if i can, but no experience of websites, very new to linux OS, and live a fair distance from Norwich (Cambridge). Also work full time, play in a band, and look after two young children, so pretty busy. But if you want something done, ask a busy person................let me know if i can do anything remotely, with such limited credentials. Jenny.

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New ALUG Website: Call For Articles & Assistance
by MJ Ray 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

Hi, At long last the Great Website Renovation is done. We should be on Martyn's host and fully operation in a few days, and I think that includes email redirectors for anyone that wants them (right Martyn?). In the short term, I need your help to make the site more substantial. From the old site, we have: - Contact details page - Mailing list sign-up and archive - Meetings information for the first five - Meeting venues information (in the next day or two) This is a general call for articles on any Linux-related topic. You can provide them in a number of ways, including marked up into very simple XML (much simpler than HTML), or just by making text and graphics available to me somehow. Personally, I am particularly interested in having the following: - Meetings information for the rest (mailing list+memory, anyone?) - Articles from a new user's point of view - Reviews of some Linux Games - Pointers to new-user information but this is not a concrete list, so feel free to discuss them or suggest other ideas to the mailing list. I'm also *desperate* for more people to help with the site. Workload should be minimal and everything should be as easy as possible now (at last!), but it was some time since I asked and I don't know how situations have changes, so I'm asking again. Looking forward to your replies! -- MJR

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