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Re: alug digest, Vol 1 #96 - 3 msgs
by Deana 21 Nov '00

21 Nov '00

On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, you wrote: > I finally got around to installing > KDE, and it ran like an utter pig. Warning: do not believe people who > tell you that a P200 with 32MB of RAM is enough for KDE :) Poor old > drmanhattan thrashed itself to death, it was awful... > > Aq. Yes, I have KDE 2 courtesy of the Mandrake 7.2 boxed set. The only real improvement seems to be the addition of Konqueror. Unfortunately, I'm having to use it from the Gnome desktop or Enlightenment, since Kicker (the panel) crashes with a SIGSEGV error every time KDE starts - I'm on my fifth re-install and the same bug occurs every time. While I think about it, anybody contemplating an upgrade to LM 7.2 for the sake of KDE 2 might want to wait until Mandrake have got it right. Several packages are missing or missed even on the "complete" installation (fetchmail, of all things, being one, no sign of Pine at all, no Enlightenment), KOffice is crude, and the LM installation itself bizzare - 5 installs on the same empty 13gig drive have managed to throw up five different configurations. Oh, and the Helix Gnome (1.21) upgrade wipes the existing Gnome, but the installer fails before completion - I tried this at work just to make sure it wasn't me. Overall, all I got for £30 was Konqueror and more hassle than was really worth it. You might have had better luck, of course... -- Regards Deana

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Re: [Alug] Netscape 6
by MJ Ray 21 Nov '00

21 Nov '00

Neill Newman <njnewm(a)essex.ac.uk> writes: > aaww ;)..well, just for the record, I have a P200 with 64Meg and kde2 > runs smoothly > moral of the story, you don;t need a fast processor, just (a little) > more memory... More memory, more memory... hrm... this sounds like what I was trying to get away from by using Linux ;-) MJR (currently running sapphire 0.15.x CVS as his desktop)

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Re: [Alug] Netscape 6
by David Freeman 21 Nov '00

21 Nov '00

I had a problem with my old suse install where it took weeks to boot up and do anything graphical. The fix was to recompile the kernel minus the bits I didn't need. I am currently runnning a AMD K6 200 with 32mb RAM and KDE runs fine. I have had every thing removed from the kernel bar what is needed to boot up and the rest is put in as modules, makes a lot of difference to the speed. Thanks D --- MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Neill Newman <njnewm(a)essex.ac.uk> writes: > > > aaww ;)..well, just for the record, I have a P200 with 64Meg and > kde2 > > runs smoothly > > moral of the story, you don;t need a fast processor, just (a > little) > > more memory... > > More memory, more memory... hrm... this sounds like what I was trying > to get away from by using Linux ;-) > > MJR > (currently running sapphire 0.15.x CVS as his desktop) > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Netscape 6
by Deana 20 Nov '00

20 Nov '00

Hello all. I have Netscape 6, and even though I knew it would be buggy it was hardly worth the download. Mozilla M18 is very stable (if lacking in plugin support), but for some reason passing the mouse over animations on certain sites causes them to disappear. KDE's Konqueror is excellent, though lacking in features. I think this is the one to watch. -- Regards, Deana

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Change of ISP
by terryfilby 18 Nov '00

18 Nov '00

>From today, I have changed my ISP from m02we400(a)cwcom.net, please alter your records. Thanks Terry

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Re: [Alug] Linux Newbie PPP problem
by David Freeman 17 Nov '00

17 Nov '00

All, I have finally got internet access under linux. The final fix was a play with the routing table and all works fine. This email is being sent from linux. Thanks to all who helped me with this problem. D --- MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > > > when I type route it displays the headings of the route table and > then > > stops. > > Use "route -n" to avoid doing DNS lookups? > > > where can I find displayed the settings for DNS and default > Gateway? > > route tells you gateway settings and DNS names are in > /etc/resolv.conf > > > I use peanut Linux. > > I think that's based on an old Slackware? > > > Should... I intend to set up my own internal network and run ppp on > > demand with a firewall etc... but as yet can't get ppp working. so > at > > the moment the network card isn't even connected to any cables. > > So you almost certainly don't want a gateway on that network just > yet. Can anyone who has done this recommend a good tutorial, as I > don't fancy writing one ;-) > > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Alug] Linux Newbie PPP problem
by MJ Ray 17 Nov '00

17 Nov '00

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > when I type route it displays the headings of the route table and then > stops. Use "route -n" to avoid doing DNS lookups? > where can I find displayed the settings for DNS and default Gateway? route tells you gateway settings and DNS names are in /etc/resolv.conf > I use peanut Linux. I think that's based on an old Slackware? > Should... I intend to set up my own internal network and run ppp on > demand with a firewall etc... but as yet can't get ppp working. so at > the moment the network card isn't even connected to any cables. So you almost certainly don't want a gateway on that network just yet. Can anyone who has done this recommend a good tutorial, as I don't fancy writing one ;-)

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Re: [Alug] Linux Newbie PPP problem
by David Freeman 17 Nov '00

17 Nov '00

--- MJ Ray <markj(a)cloaked.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > > > Thanks to all who replied, for somereason, changing the cable > allows it > > to work under kppp. I can now log into my isp and get an ip > connection. > > but I can't get anywhere else as I think my default route and my > DNS > > isn't configured right. Wont resolve names and pings don't work for > any > > address other than the other end of my ppp link. > > I hear some distributions put a default route in on the internal > network which is wrong wrong wrong. Sorry I can't remember what > distribution you're using, so I can't advise how to fix it > permanently, but you could try using the "route" command to delete > any > route on the internal network. when I type route it displays the headings of the route table and then stops. where can I find displayed the settings for DNS and default Gateway? I use peanut Linux. > > I have a 3com ethernet card in the machine as well which has an IP > > address of 10.10.10.2 this is configured at bootup with a default > > gateway of 10.10.10.1. how do I change it all to work with PPP? > > It should just work, but why is there a gateway if this is the ppp > machine... ie, is there another network beyond 10.10.10.1? Should... I intend to set up my own internal network and run ppp on demand with a firewall etc... but as yet can't get ppp working. so at the moment the network card isn't even connected to any cables. Thanks D > > _______________________________________________ > alug, the Anglian Linux User Group list > Email: alug(a)stu.uea.ac.uk > http://rabbit.stu.uea.ac.uk/cgi-bin/listinfo/alug > See the website for instructions on digest or unsub! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/

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Re: [ALUG] Graphics cards
by MJ Ray 17 Nov '00

17 Nov '00

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > Also, has any one used the daimond 'hardware' modem (sorry no other > details known)? Diamond's SupraExpress series work well with Linux and are often recommended. I personally wouldn't recommend them as Diamond's tech support really really really suck with their autoresponders and start quoting legal stuff at you as soon as they find out you want support for something other than the recommended spec on the box. MJR

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Re: [Alug] Linux Newbie PPP problem
by MJ Ray 17 Nov '00

17 Nov '00

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > Thanks to all who replied, for somereason, changing the cable allows it > to work under kppp. I can now log into my isp and get an ip connection. > but I can't get anywhere else as I think my default route and my DNS > isn't configured right. Wont resolve names and pings don't work for any > address other than the other end of my ppp link. I hear some distributions put a default route in on the internal network which is wrong wrong wrong. Sorry I can't remember what distribution you're using, so I can't advise how to fix it permanently, but you could try using the "route" command to delete any route on the internal network. > I have a 3com ethernet card in the machine as well which has an IP > address of 10.10.10.2 this is configured at bootup with a default > gateway of 10.10.10.1. how do I change it all to work with PPP? It should just work, but why is there a gateway if this is the ppp machine... ie, is there another network beyond 10.10.10.1?

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