"Al" BioHazzard@mad.scientist.com writes:

sheltered upbringing so if I hadn't asked I would never know :o) (I suppose I should have trimmed the messages off the end, so now it's my turn???)

Yes. Look, everyone, *PLEASE* trim your messages to only include the part of the message that relates to your reply, as it's a waste of bandwidth, space, time, etc. Generally, including the quote *before* your reply is nice, too. Future blatent abuse will get a quiet request, then a boot (probably to the clueless mailing list if I can find it again). Harsh, but we need to keep the list operating reasonably. I don't know what the world's coming to -- seldom a week goes by on my main work email list without the list admin reposting the rules and intro because of abuses.

Now can we stop this pointless discussion and get back to lobbing venue ideas about, like the subject says, please? Thanks ;-)