OK, we hit a massive off-topic drift near the end and this is, again, very late in being compiled. The next issue should be on Friday. Apologies to all for any bad editing on my part. There's a slightly different format to this edition. Email the main list, alug@stu.uea.ac.uk to comment if you want.
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Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 08:38:02 -0700 (PDT) From: David Freeman david_freeman@rocketmail.com Subject: Re: [Alug] linux expo..
-- oms101@freeuk.com wrote:
Silly, whats silly? I learnt yesterday whilst talking to the Gay person with a tail, "why do i give a shit what others think?" and he's right, why do I care?
He was a nice girl and part of a tail related internet comunity apparently his girl friend was a fox and he was some other anaimal, some one I did not know made a joke about beastiality, but a good relief from the goat sex related topics that sprang up at manlug
Actually HE was called moof and is actually not interested in women, so it was his boy friend who is the fox and it was that latters tail he had borrowed. He says there are more like him at http://www.londonfurs.org/ Also he is from kent and is a student at Kent Uni.
Ah poor bunny, why not track down the tail based internet comunity they seemed fun to. I cant bitch though as It was remarkably friendly and no matter how desperate you where to get hold of soft toys people thought it was perfectly natural. ( Bet you cant guess who that may have been)
http://www.londonfurs.org/ - I don't really relate to the furries but the geeks/nerds/hackers which were in the bar I could relate to.
I met Wylug members, ManLug members and sheflug members as well, as the locals. Its was like a tribal gethering for this nomad.
I met Sheflug and manlug and Lonix and GLUG people also a group looking to form a LUG in kent. Like you say it was a tribal gathering.
Thanks
D ------------------------------
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 17:42:22 +0100 (BST) From: Adam Bower abower@thebowery.co.uk Subject: Re: [Alug] Retail theropy - AC3, DVD and linux
On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, David Freeman wrote:
- Is it worth getting TV out on a graphics card? for a desktop
machine?
IMHO no, unless you want to watch DVDs on a larger screen etc. but I don't know if this is supported under Linux. I did have TV out on my last Nvidia TNT and never used it.
- How well is the geforce 2 MX supported on Linux?
I have a GeForce 2 GTS and all Nvidia cards later than the Riva128 are supported with hardware acceleration, BUT the drivers to do this are binary only (they work fine though) Nvidia will not open source them. There is an implementation built into XFree86 that supports them but no hardware acceleration == no Quake III.
- Are DVD rom drives fixed as a single region? if so how do I unfix
it?
Yes, but you can unlock quite a few with a patch (a bit like a Bios update) I don't know where there is a site that tells you more, google might. If you do find more info let me know as I am also looking at some retail therapy!
- Do DVD rom drives have a S/PDIF output on the drive?
I would of thought that some do and some dont. Sorry I can't be more helpful.
- Can any one recommend a cheap sound card which will give me 6
channel sound output from the DVD drive and allow me to output it to my surround amp?
Probably one of the cheap Creative Labs would do, again don't know really
- What dvd decoding software would people recommend?
don't know :-(
My god I am soooo tempted to spend money at the moment! I am tempted by an Athlon 1.2Ghz 512Mb 2100DDR memory, motherboard and DVD drive along with a IBM UDMA100 60Gb hard disk and a Iiyama Vision master Pro 451 19" monitor, but I have to keep telling myself that I live in the real world and can't afford it......
Adam
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Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 20:48:35 +0100 (BST) From: oms101@freeuk.com Subject: [Alug] Xdefaults
A while ago we where discussing X and .Xdefaults and I discovered that some people might want some of my settings for X
If you type use KDE it can be anoying the way you X applications look and feel is modified by apply changes to all X windows deleting some of your changes to the ~/.Xdefaults file. (I now use ice which is well customised now maybe I should post my theme some time to themes.org or even here)
at the end of the ~/.Xdefaults file on my account you will see the line
<Quote>
#include "etc/X/Xresorces/Main"
</Quote>
This prevents programs overwriting my Xdefault which I set So fav I have only set up a couple of programs
The links to a file called Main which further links to setups for 4 applications and looks like
<Quote>
#include "XTerm" #include "Nedit" #include "Netscape" #include "Ddd"
</Quote>
The files XTerm Nedit Netscape and Ddd have appended
I hope this will improve the look of your X enviroment, The support for wheel mouse in Xterms and Nedit is now an essential for me.
Enjoy
Owen
- -----------------filedelimiter----------------------- Ddd - -----------------filedelimiter-----------------------
Ddd*XmText.background: black Ddd*XmText.foreground: white
- -----------------filedelimiter----------------------- Nedit - -----------------filedelimiter----------------------- !========================================================================== ! NeDiT Settings from OMS !========================================================================== ! NEdit*fontList: -*-lucidatypewriter-bold-r-*-*-17-*-*-*-*-*-*-* NEdit*text.selectForeground: red nedit*text.selectBackground: gray80 nedit*text.highlightBackground: red nedit*text.highlightForeground: white nedit.remapDeleteKey: False # NEdit
NEdit*text.Translations: #override\n\ Shift<Btn4Down>,<Btn4Up>: scroll_up(1)\n\ Shift<Btn5Down>,<Btn5Up>: scroll_down(1)\n\ Ctrl<Btn4Down>,<Btn4Up>: previous_page()\n\ Ctrl<Btn5Down>,<Btn5Up>: next_page(1)\n\ <Btn4Down>,<Btn4Up>: scroll_up(3)\n\ <Btn5Down>,<Btn5Up>: scroll_down(3)\n
nedit.stdOpenDialog: True
- -----------------filedelimiter----------------------- Netscape - -----------------filedelimiter----------------------- !## NETSCAPE Netscape*drawingArea.translations: #replace \ <Btn1Down>: ArmLink() \n\ <Btn2Down>: ArmLink() \n\ ~Shift<Btn1Up>: ActivateLink() \n\ ~Shift<Btn2Up>: ActivateLink(new-window) \ DisarmLink() \n\ Shift<Btn1Up>: ActivateLink(save-only) \ DisarmLink() \n\ Shift<Btn2Up>: ActivateLink(save-only) \ DisarmLink() \n\ <Btn1Motion>: DisarmLinkIfMoved() \n\ <Btn2Motion>: DisarmLinkIfMoved() \n\ <Btn3Motion>: DisarmLinkIfMoved() \n\ <Motion>: DescribeLink() \n\ <Btn3Down>: xfeDoPopup() \n\ <Btn3Up>: ActivatePopup() \n\ Ctrl<Btn4Down>: PageUp()\n\ Ctrl<Btn5Down>: PageDown()\n\ Shift<Btn4Down>: LineUp()\n\ Shift<Btn5Down>: LineDown()\n\ None<Btn4Down>: LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\ None<Btn5Down>: LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()\n\ Alt<Btn4Down>: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n\ Alt<Btn5Down>: xfeDoCommand(back)\n
Netscape*globalNonTextTranslations: #override\n\ Shift<Btn4Down>: LineUp()\n\ Shift<Btn5Down>: LineDown()\n\ None<Btn4Down>:LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\
None<Btn5Down>:LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()\n\ Alt<Btn4Down>: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n\ Alt<Btn5Down>: xfeDoCommand(back)\n
- -----------------filedelimiter----------------------- XFMail - -----------------filedelimiter-----------------------
!========================================================================== ! XFMail Settings from OMS !========================================================================== ! xfmail*text.Translations: #override\n\ <Btn4Down>,<Btn4Up>:a\n\ <Btn5Down>,<Btn5Up>:a\n\
- -----------------filedelimiter----------------------- XTerm - -----------------filedelimiter-----------------------
! =========================================================================== ! Basic !===========================================================================
!Changed as to big a window on display !.xterm.geometry: 80x45 .xterm.geometry: 78x18
.xterm.vt100.background: black .xterm.vt100.foreground: grey .xterm.vt100.color0: #000000 .xterm.vt100.color1: #d36265 .xterm.vt100.color2: #aece91 .xterm.vt100.color3: #e7e18c .xterm.vt100.color4: #7a7ab0 .xterm.vt100.color5: #963c59 .xterm.vt100.color6: #418179 .xterm.vt100.color7: gray .xterm.vt100.color8: gray40 .xterm.vt100.color9: #ef8171 .xterm.vt100.color10: #e5f779 .xterm.vt100.color11: #fff796 .xterm.vt100.color12: #4186be .xterm.vt100.color13: #ef9ebe .xterm.vt100.color14: #71bebe .xterm.vt100.color15: white .xterm*fontMenu*background: green
! =========================================================================== ! Motif ! ===========================================================================
!*XmText.translations: #override\n\ ! <Key>osfDelete: delete-previous-character()\n\ ! <Key>osfBackSpace: delete-next-character()\n ! !*XmTextField.translations: #override\n\ ! <Key>osfDelete: delete-next-character()\n\ ! <Key>osfBackSpace: delete-previous-character()\n
! =========================================================================== ! XTerm ! =========================================================================== !*vt100.translations: #override \ ! <Key>Home: string("[1~") \n\ ! <Key>Insert: string("[2~") \n\ ! <Key>BackSpace: string("[3~") \n\ ! <Key>End: string("[4~")
!============================================================================= ! xterm defaults from OMS !============================================================================= ! ! !# In the scrollbar we map buttons 5 & 4 to 1 and 2 otherwise, core dump !# This will move proportionnaly to cursor position but we dont know how to !# program the same exact behavior as in the text widget. XTerm.vt100.Scrollbar.translations: #override\n\ <Btn5Down>: StartScroll(Forward)\n\ <Btn4Down>: StartScroll(Backward)\n\
XTerm.vt100.translations: #override\n\ Shift<Btn4Down>,<Btn4Up>:scroll-back(1,line)\n\ Shift<Btn5Down>,<Btn5Up>:scroll-forw(1,line)\n\ Ctrl<Btn4Down>,<Btn4Up>:scroll-back(1,page)\n\ Ctrl<Btn5Down>,<Btn5Up>:scroll-forw(1,page)\n\ <Btn4Down>,<Btn4Up>:scroll-back(1,halfpage)\n\ <Btn5Down>,<Btn5Up>:scroll-forw(1,halfpage)\n\
! xterm (and friends)
XTerm*highlightSelection: true ! Uncomment this to use color for the bold attribute XTerm*VT100*colorBDMode: on XTerm*VT100*colorBD: blue ! Uncomment this to use color for underline attribute XTerm.VT100*colorULMode: on XTerm.VT100*underLine: off XTerm*VT100*colorUL: magenta ! Uncomment this to display the scrollbar XTerm*scrollBar: true ! This resource specifies whether or not to ignore the 'alternate screen' ! of applications such as vi. When it is on, these applications will restore ! the contents of the screen when they are exited to what they were before ! they were started. When it is off, the contents of vi will remain on the ! screen after the program is quit. XTerm.VT100.titeInhibit: true
! Uncomment this to turn off color mode in your xterms !XTerm.VT100*colorMode: off XTerm.VT100*dynamicColors: on
! Number of lines of scrollback to save XTerm*saveLines: 1500
xterm*reverseWrap: true
!*visualBell: true *visualBell: False *scrollTtyOutput: False *scrollKey: True
!XTerm.vt100.Scrollbar.translations: #override\n\ ! <Btn5Down>: StartScroll(Forward)\n\ ! <Btn4Down>: StartScroll(Backward)\n\
xterm*background: LightYellow2 xterm.eightBitInput: true xterm*multiScroll: on xterm*jumpScroll: on
xterm*ScrollBar: on xterm*SaveLines: 2000 ! xterm*VisualBell: true xterm.eightBitOutput: true
!xterm*font: -adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-1 !xterm*font: -bitstream-terminal-bold-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-1 xterm*font: 10x20
!This Stuff was cut from the top
XTerm*Scrollbar*width: 16 XTerm*Scrollbar*height: 16 XTerm*Scrollbar*shadowWidth: 2 XTerm*Scrollbar*borderWidth: 3 XTerm*RightScrollBar: True *Scrollbar*width: 15 *Scrollbar*height: 15 *Scrollbar*shadowWidth: 2 *Scrollbar*borderWidth: 2 *Scrollbar*cursorName: top_left_arrow *Scrollbar*pushThumb: false *Label*shadowWidth: 2 *Label*borderWidth: 2 *shapeStyle: Rectangle *shadowWidth: 2 *SmeBSB*shadowWidth: 2 *Toggle*highlightThickness: 2 *MenuButton*highlightThickness: 2 *Command*highlightThickness: 2 *Panner*shadowThickness: 2 *SimpleMenu*shadowThickness: 2 *topShadowContrast: 20 *bottomShadowContrast: 45 *PushThumb: False
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please note that I have included the Files in the body of the text to avoid hastle, if the delimiter confuses you you can always mail me for the raw files
Owen ------------------------------
Date: 07 Jul 2001 15:37:39 +0100 From: MJ Ray markj@cloaked.freeserve.co.uk Subject: [Alug] Curious
Well, I was getting some nasty errors on my CDROM recently while trying to play a CD that I knew worked before. XMMS just hung there, while xconsole showed errors about "SeekComplete DriveReady Error".
So I rebuilt my kernel with only the drivers I actually use (removing the swsusp patch that makes my machine panic if I try to use it) and that didn't work.
I installed ALSA (which debian have now got quite a nice build process for now, I think, although I hacked it about a little bit). The sound quality is absolutely loads better, but it still hung on the "bad" files.
I searched around the net a bit, confident that my system was fairly neat and tidy now. Someone mentioned that they see that error when the CD is scratched.
I took the CD out, polished it with the "Magic Cloth" I use on my glasses (3 pounds or so from Boots Opticians) and now it works.
Ooops.
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MJ Ray