July 2002 - main - earth.li

Apologies for Absence from Meeting of 14th
by John Seago 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

I'm afraid that I shall not be able to attend the next meeting of ALUG as I will be at a Field Shoot, (Archery), on that day. -- John Seago

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Re: RE: windows management
by Ben Norcutt 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

Hi, Yes not being able to run setup.exe from a cd was imagined. This certainly wasn't the case with the connect 2.4 networks that I worked with anyway. Cheers, Ben

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 15 Jul '02

15 Jul '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [Alug] USB and SMB
by Chris Glover 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Chris Walker wrote: > Can somebody help me with a couple of problems I'm having? > > My PC using Mandrake 7.2 is networked to another machine running Acorns Risc > OS and which uses adfs as its filing system. I'm trying to samba mount the > drives on that machine - I can do it fine under Win98 but just can't seem to > get the syntax right under Mandrake. The name of ROS machine is Florida and > one of the shared drives is called HardDisc4. It's shared under Win98 as i: > with a mount of \\florida\harddisc4 and I thought I would be able to do > something similar, but I've got precisely nowhere. > Have you tried smbmount "\\<IP Address of Acorn>\root" <mount point> We have a lot of Acorn RISC PC's at work (Omnibus TV station automation) and this is how we connect to them. If your interested they run CBBC, CBeebies and BBC Choice! Chris -- Chris *************************************************************************** E Mail Chris(a)glovercc.clara.co.uk WWW http://www.glovercc.clara.co.uk Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject. -Anon

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RE: windows management
by Ben Norcutt 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

>As someone that works as a network manager in a >secondary school in >Norwich >I can say that the IT support brach for the schools >has a hard enough >time >with windoze. > >Sorry - you've just discovered the M$ lie - Windows >was designed to 'protect the user from the operating >System'. However you still have to know what your >doing - a computer is a tool not a crutch - An >operating system will not turn you into a competent >network manager any more than a graphics editor will >turn you into an artist or a word processor turn me >into a coherent writer. If you dont know the >fundamentals it aint really gonna help. >Tom Hi Tom, I'm not sure but I think you just insulted me. When I said the IT support branch I was talking about the IT support from the LEA most schools aren't as fortunate as mine having someone who is there fulltime just to look after the IT system most have a teacher doing it. Next time you wanna have a pop do it privately if this is wrong then forigve me but right now I fell pretty pi**ed off with your lame response. Ben

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RE: windows management
by Ben Norcutt 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

> Like those RM Machines. Those were too easy to >hack :/ > >From what I've heard, RM machines manage to >effectively stop the system >admins and their chosen (non-RM) software contractors >from doing certain >tasks, yet don't seem to stop the students circumventing >them... Bizarrely, >they still have customers. Having worked with RM networks there was nothing in the RM security that stopped you as an admin doing anything you needed to do and yes there were always things certain knowledgable students could do to mess the system up but the bolt on security onto an otherwise unsecure win9x machine was good. There latest product is based on XP clients and 2K server and looks good. Ben

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Re: [Alug] Networking Problem + ill be at the meeting
by NuTTeR -- Not Entered -- 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Glover <chris(a)glovercc.clara.co.uk> > > other ALUG members) any ideas?.. All help is welcome as I am a bit out of my > > depth myself! > > > > No problem :-) > > Networks can be bastards at times. > > Chris > > -- > Chris This may sound realy dumb and not be correct at all but isnt 192.somthing.somthing.somthing a class C IP adress... and that should have a broadcast address of 192.somthing.somthing.255 not 192.something.255.255. just a thought. The first 3 parts of the ip addresses on that network should be the same for all the hosts(nodes/computers/...). Or is it a subnet thing? if not your subnetmask should be 255.255.255.0. P.S. ill be at the meeting later today will anyone have a copy of debian testing? if so could u bring it maybe :). I can also give lifts if you live in a small village my kinda way... Litcham and around that way :). Dennis Dryden -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze

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Tomorrow's meeting...
by MJ Ray 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

If anyone is travelling to King's Lynn by train (via Ely) or coach (X94 Pboro, Norwich, Yarmouth, Lowestoft; X98 North Norfolk), if you let me know what time you're arriving, I'll try to wander to the station with a penguin to meet you. If not, you can try to figure out wtf the buses are doing this weekend, or grab a taxi ;-) If you're coming by car, please follow signs for Lynnsport or Seabank Chapel, but after the mini-roundabout, take the turning on the right a little way after the yellow local shop and then turn left into the centre's car park. If you end up at Lynnsport or the chapel, you missed the turning ;-) Look forward to seeing lots of you tomorrow... -- MJR ,---------------------------------------------------- | Q. Do you need a net-based application developing, | or advice and training about web technology? | A. I suggest you try http://www.luminas.co.uk/

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GPG trust
by Alexis Lee 14 Jul '02

14 Jul '02

Hi, I've been signing my messages for a little while yet, but I've only just remembered that I have to get my key trusted by a trusted party before it's any good to anyone. Doh. So, does anyone have a trusted GPG key, that I could convince to trust me? Alexis -- "I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have" - T Jefferson "Let's stop and pray!" - pious little girl "No. Let's keep running, and pray as we go along" - pragmatic little girl

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Freeshell.org: woohoo!
by Alexis Lee 13 Jul '02

13 Jul '02

I posted some time ago asking for opinions on freeshell.org's service. Well, the subject says it all really. I paid the $36 donation for ARPA membership, and I'm very pleased. They don't actually run Linux - they tried it but moved to Alphas for stability. They do have about 22000 users, so that's understandable I think. As they say, consumer grade hardware just isn't up to that. They provide PHP/Perl/CGI facilities, 100MB each for mail/web/home and SSH/SCP/SFTP. So I'm happy. Alexis -- "You got what everyone gets. A lifetime." - Death (Sandman by Neil Gaiman) Windows didn't get as bad as it is overnight; it took over 10 years of careful development.

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