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Seeing double
by Kelly Ash 24 Jul '02

24 Jul '02

I accidentally added two of the same applets to my panel and can't figure out how to remove one of them. Probably not looking in the right place which would be....? And I don't think my last post got through so will send it off again, as an addition to it; I asked about loading software from a coverdisc (how and to where), also how would downloading from the internet work? As far as files being places where they need to go or is that manual? Have this addy for Linux now. Thanks again, Kelly

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Funny error message
by Craig 24 Jul '02

24 Jul '02

Ran 'Links' on my web server to see some website was alive and when I quit the program.. it said: Memory leak by 28 bytes List of blocks: 0x8116438:52 @ dns.c:374 Forcing core dump Man the Lifeboats! Women and children first! Segmentation fault Woo! Oh the box is using debian, looks like they screwed up something? ;) -- Craig

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Re: [Alug] Let the questions begin!!
by Ricardo Campos 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

>#1 Think of /home as "My Documents". Put all your data there. All directories come off of / , which you can think of as similar to c: in windoze (similar, not the same). The structure is like a tree, with / as a root, and others coming off ass branches: /bin = where many essential binaries are kept /sbin = As above, but system binaries /home = If your username is "kelly", then your home directory is /home/kelly/ /lib = system libraries /usr = has a few things coming off it, mainly user-installed things i.e. /usr/games /usr/bin /usr/lib etc. /var = contains system logs and stuff (var=variable) > #2 - There's a mandrake packaging tool that's pretty good- BJ? > #3 - In anticipation of installing Linux I began buying Linux Format mag and > The Linux Magazine. I spent ages trying to get things off those CD's when I first started. I think I wasted a lot of time doing that. Get used to your system first, and when possible let the mandrake installer get you new packages. > #4 - While reading through the user guide that came with my 'boxed set' Look for programs that have "terminal" in the name. This will bring an old-school command line up- do them here. > #5 - Have you dozed off yet? lol. There's way too much "space" around my > windows. Not sure. May be just the difference between the drivers. I have to adjust my monitor, but only the few times when I boot into windoze. > OK, guess that's if for today. Hope they aren't silly > questions......honestly I am researching but can't get to the answers fast > enough, could be just a bit excited and impatient. Maybe. No, it's cool. I'm trying to write a good newbies guide to linux for my friends who are interested. I found this site helpful:- www.linuxnewbie.org Also, there is a Mandrake user website too. A lot of it is learning *how* to read the documentation. Some of it appears to be written by robots rather than humans. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] which php version
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

Martyn Drake wrote: >PHP should install and overwrite whatever previous version is installed, >assuming that version 4.0.6 is installed in it's default directory and >that you've ensured that the right module is loaded within httpd.conf. >Look for the relavent LoadModule php4_module to find out where PHP has >been installed and compare that with what you've just compiled. I think it was originally not installed in the default directory and still isn't. I created a directory for them. under /. Perhaps why it all went wrong? OK - I found the new php4 directory, and also put the absolute paths for the psql.so etc libs into php.ini, and now I get the correct version and postgres support with the <?phpinfo> command. Excellent! Many thanks! Just one thing - php -v is still showing 4.0.6, even though I changed the php4lib.so module line in httpd.conf. >The latest version is now 4.2.2 ......... Thanks, grabbed that one now. This leads me to a further question for the debianites: - if I had used apt-get install php4 instead of compiling it myself, how would I have passed the configure-with options to php? Thanks Martyn, that has been driving me mad for days. Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] Debian Installation screen
by Ricardo Campos 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

> However, someone I know on IRC decided to try build a > basic "user friendly" installer. what, like this one? http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=699 -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Setting up nVidia GeForce 2 MX400
by Ian Douglas 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

Now that I have been running Linux on my new PC for a few days I would like to try to set it up to use XWindows. When I installed Debian I remember it saying it couldn't recognise my video card (nVidia GeForce 2 MX400) and although I have sussed out I can now run XF86Setup to try and set up XWindows all the different selections of Card/Monitor combinations I have entered have failed, even the basic VGA. The only XWindows I can get to run looks like part of a 320 x 200 screen. If there are any ALUG members on the mailing list who have managed to get an nVidia GeForce 2 MX400 video card working with Debian 2.2r4 could they please let me know what settings they used for XF86Setup. The monitor I am using is an AOC Spectrum 7V which should be able to easily handle at least 1024 x 768. Thanks, Ian.

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Debian Installation screen
by Craig 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

Apparently a lot of people are sick to death with Debian main installation. However, someone I know on IRC decided to try build a basic "user friendly" installer. Good luck to him I say but I will try my best to report how he is getting on etc. Just thought it was worth a mention ;) -- Craig

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Let the questions begin!!
by Kelly Ash 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

I'm not entirely clear on how the file/folder system works in here. Keeping in mind I'm used to using the OTHER OS, is it the same sort of structure? Where are the best/worst places to create folders so that I can remember where things are? Looks like user and home but I'd rather ask before I start trying to add folders etc... #2 - I see some programs (in a brochure that came with the user guide) that I supposedly have available to me but apparently I didn't load during the install. Can I put the install CD back in and load them now without going through the whole install again? Don't know if they'd be on the first CD or the Comm. Apps CD....hmmm......... #3 - In anticipation of installing Linux I began buying Linux Format mag and The Linux Magazine. The cover CD's, (and this more than likely has to do with my first question to some point) if I pop in the CD, then what? Will it automatically put things where they're supposed to go? From what I can gather not having tried it yet, there will be some other 'work' to do to get some of them installed too and they seem to give good directions. #4 - While reading through the user guide that came with my 'boxed set' and also a book called Teach Yourself Linux in 24 hours (yeah right! *g*). When they go through different steps on how to do things it tells me different commands to type but not where or what I should be in to type them!! It seemed a stupid question so I had my fiance try finding out in the books with no luck, so I'm asking. #5 - Have you dozed off yet? lol. There's way too much "space" around my windows. Is there some way to fix this within Linux so that I don't have to keep changing my monitor settings as I go back and forth with Bills product? OK, guess that's if for today. Hope they aren't silly questions......honestly I am researching but can't get to the answers fast enough, could be just a bit excited and impatient. Maybe. Kelly

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Re: [Alug] Setting up nVidia GeForce 2 MX400
by Ricardo Campos 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

> If there are any ALUG members on the > mailing list who have managed to get an nVidia GeForce 2 MX400 video card > working with Debian 2.2r4 could they please let me know what settings they > used for XF86Setup. I could never get it to work with that version of X. (I think it's 3.3.6). However, Debian 3.0 has been released and it just works fine with X4.1.0. I'd highly recommend an upgrade to Debian 3.0, I could then send you my XF86Config-4 file. (I have the exact same card). The driver you want is "nv", although you can get proprietary drivers from nvidias website (although debian 3 has apt-gettable versions), which uses the "nvidia" driver, and also (regrettably) patches the kernel (so you need your kernel source handy). I upgraded over the weekend from 2.2r3 to 3.0 using a dialup. (took friday night until I came home from pub, and sat morning). For the debian release details, www.debianplanet.org has a good collection of links and mentions new X setup tools. (I haven't used them, though). Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Debian 3.0 Woody
by Ricardo Campos 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

OK, with debian 3.0 released, I'm wondering if I should now change my default release in my apt.conf to "stable"? At the moment it's still "testing", and I haven't noticed any changes when I apt-get upgrade. Congrats to the debian developers, and the users that have supported debian (bug reports, just plain using it). What a complicated project, and only 2.5 months late! Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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