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List config
by Andrew Savory 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

Hi, It seems there is a problem with the ALUG main mailing list: it does not allow you to unsubscribe (or at least, it ignores unsubscribe requests). Messages to 'main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk' with a subject of 'unsubscribe' appear to fail silently. John or Adam - could you check all is well with the list config? Thanks, Andrew. -- All views are my own - who else would want them?

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RE: [ALUG] PC Hardware Suppliers in Norfolk?
by David Studholme (JIC) 04 Feb '05

04 Feb '05

I have bought quite a few bits of kit from these guys in Thorpe St Andrew, with no problems at all: http://www.anglianinternet.co.uk/ Cheers Dave Matt Parker wrote: > I've found MG Computers to be excellent.

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Scripting Advice Needed
by Keith Watson 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

I have a stack of JavaScript files from which I want to extract the function definition lines and the following comment block for documentation purposes, e.g. in the source files functions are defined thusly; function thisIsAfunction (firstArg, secondArg, thirdArg) { /* ************************************************************** * a description of the purpose of the function, what * argument values are expected and some examples * of use. * */ [then the body of the code for the function, which may contain further comment blocks that I want to ignore] } Question is can I do this with the ubiquitous egrep? or will I need to use something like perl or awk? Any ideas or suggestions? Anyone know of something that already does this? And before someone asks, yes I have tried google and found one possibility, an awk script that will extract _all_ the comments but not the function definitions [eXtract Source Code Comment <http://members.tripod.com/vgoenka/unixscripts/xscc.html>]. Most hits were from people who wanted to remove comments to either just compress the source or count lines of code. Regards, Keith ____________ Never annoy Dragons. For thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup. - D&D saying

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RE: [ALUG] Scripting Advice Needed
by Keith Watson 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

> From: Brett Parker Sent: 03 February 2005 14:00 > On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 10:39:21AM -0000, Keith Watson wrote: > > I have a stack of JavaScript files from which I want to > extract the function definition lines and the following > comment block for documentation purposes, ...[lots deleted]... > I'd probably go the perl route, but that's because I can't write awk ;) yeah, not my favourite scripting language either, but I know it has it's uses (he said hastily :o) ) > If I get a chance later on tonight, I'll throw something out that should work. gracias, amigo > I assume that the comments are always straight after the function definition? yes > I'd have expected it to be /** at the top of the comment for Java, > but I suppose as this is JavaScript I'm not surprised that it's not. ditto, but that's the way whoever did it coded them. It's quite readable though, so I can see why it was done that way. > It should be relatively simple... parse the file for the function > keyword at the beginning of a line, then select everything up to the > first occurrence of */, should be relatively simple. that's why I wondered if it could be done with a suitable cunning regular expression and egrep. Any regex guru's fancy a crack at this? :o) Keith ____________ CONNOISSEUR, n. - A specialist who knows everything about something and nothing about anything else (q.v. EXPERT). - Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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Euros
by Stan 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

Once Euros are introduced will the name of the Cash Points (or Cosh Points, depending where you live;)) be changed to Eurinals?

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RE: [ALUG] hello from me
by Keith Watson 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

> From: Anthony Anson Sent: 03 February 2005 11:03 > > The message <20050203102356.GE52285(a)amnesiac.heapspace.net> > from Brett Parker <iDunno(a)sommitrealweird.co.uk> contains these words: > > > > <nostalgia-alert>If you ask me the rot set in when we dispensed with > > > good old shillings and pence.</nostalgia-alert> > > > I missed that bit, see, being a mere youngster... I remember half > > pence pieces though, they where fun :) > > What I want to know is, what on earth happened to ells, bushels, > pennyweights and cubits? The inevitable downward spiral of progress, I'm afraid. > Yoofertoday! I remember when groats were legal tender... Huh. I remember when goats were legal tender... (actually I don't but it's a good line :o) ) Regards, Keith ____________ ARMOR, n. - The kind of clothing worn by a man whose tailor is a blacksmith. - Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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RE: [ALUG] hello from me
by Keith Watson 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

> From: Brett Parker > On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 09:38:05AM -0000, Keith Watson wrote: > > > From: Brett Parker Sent: 03 February 2005 08:10 > > > On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 02:44:16PM +0000, Paul wrote: > > > > > > > > Speak for yourself - I'm living the American Dream for a month... > > > > Glorious sunshine, temperatures up in the 70's... > > > > > > Paul, I know you in merka, but can you speak in an english tongue and > > > use celcius instead of fahrenheit, 70 celcius is "rather warm" so I'm > > > assuming you're in fahrenheit and mean 21.1C ;) > > > > Speak for yourself Brett, as far as I'm concerned > fahrenheit is English and celcius/centigrade is "foreign muck". 70's works for me! :o) > > It's Swedish [1], admittedly, but given that Fahrenheit[2] is a German > invention, they're both foreign... Get with the programme, damn you ;) > Well? English is a (sort of) German dialect and our current sovereign's family also originally hails from that part of the world. So traditionally we English have always had a penchant for things German, anyway it was good enough for my grandparents, it's good enough for me. :o) Notwithstanding that my German acquaintances all use SI units (e.g. metres, litres, Celsius, etc.). > Apparently we're supposed to work in SI units, next to go on the list is > Miles, but hey, that can wait for a bit, there's far too many signs to > change for that ;) Yeah, depressing isn't it? <nostalgia-alert>If you ask me the rot set in when we dispensed with good old shillings and pence.</nostalgia-alert> Regards, Keith ____________ ABSURDITY, n. - A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion. - Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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RE: [ALUG] hello from me
by Keith Watson 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

> From: Brett Parker Sent: 03 February 2005 08:10 > > On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 02:44:16PM +0000, Paul wrote: > > > > Speak for yourself - I'm living the American Dream for a month... > > Glorious sunshine, temperatures up in the 70's... > > Paul, I know you in merka, but can you speak in an english tongue and > use celcius instead of fahrenheit, 70 celcius is "rather warm" so I'm > assuming you're in fahrenheit and mean 21.1C ;) Speak for yourself Brett, as far as I'm concerned fahrenheit is English and celcius/centigrade is "foreign muck". 70's works for me! :o) Regards, Keith ____________ What you think you own, owns you. - Zen Saying

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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help! I seem to have lost my broadband connection
by allan miller 02 Feb '05

02 Feb '05

I seem to have lost my broadband connection which has been running trouble free for four months. It happened sometime on Tuesday. It was going OK in the morning but later in the day I couldn't connect and that has been the case since (I only turn it on when I use my computer rather than having it running continuously). The connection has been trouble free since the first day. Although a while back I did experience something similar but it was back up within 24 hours. (But at that time I didn't look into the 'guts' of my router to see what was actually going on). I have a D-Link DSL-504T. The carrier seems to be up but there is no connection. This shows in the router's log: Sep 8 12:00:06> Valid Configuration Tree Sep 8 12:00:10> Firewall NAT service started Jan 1 01:01:00> Bridge Created: br0 Jan 1 01:01:00> Bridge Interface Added: eth0 Jan 1 01:01:04> DSL Carrier is training Jan 1 01:01:14> DSL Carrier is up Jan 1 01:01:19> pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0 Jan 1 01:01:19> Connect: ppp0 {--} I have tried resetting the router's firmware and setting up the connection info again but it still won't connect, even when I explicitly tell it to. It is almost as if the 'other end' is not accepting my login/password any more. I seem to remember coming across a login/password on the net you could use to check that your connection was working but I haven't been able to find it again. There could be several places where the error could be - router, telephone exchange (Norwich), ISP (Tiscali/UKFSN). Can some one explain what is happening and how I can get it working again. TIA Allan Miller

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