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RE: [ALUG] hello from me
by Keith Watson 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

> From: Anthony Anson Sent: 03 February 2005 11:03 > > The message <20050203102356.GE52285(a)amnesiac.heapspace.net> > from Brett Parker <iDunno(a)sommitrealweird.co.uk> contains these words: > > > > <nostalgia-alert>If you ask me the rot set in when we dispensed with > > > good old shillings and pence.</nostalgia-alert> > > > I missed that bit, see, being a mere youngster... I remember half > > pence pieces though, they where fun :) > > What I want to know is, what on earth happened to ells, bushels, > pennyweights and cubits? The inevitable downward spiral of progress, I'm afraid. > Yoofertoday! I remember when groats were legal tender... Huh. I remember when goats were legal tender... (actually I don't but it's a good line :o) ) Regards, Keith ____________ ARMOR, n. - The kind of clothing worn by a man whose tailor is a blacksmith. - Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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RE: [ALUG] hello from me
by Keith Watson 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

> From: Brett Parker > On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 09:38:05AM -0000, Keith Watson wrote: > > > From: Brett Parker Sent: 03 February 2005 08:10 > > > On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 02:44:16PM +0000, Paul wrote: > > > > > > > > Speak for yourself - I'm living the American Dream for a month... > > > > Glorious sunshine, temperatures up in the 70's... > > > > > > Paul, I know you in merka, but can you speak in an english tongue and > > > use celcius instead of fahrenheit, 70 celcius is "rather warm" so I'm > > > assuming you're in fahrenheit and mean 21.1C ;) > > > > Speak for yourself Brett, as far as I'm concerned > fahrenheit is English and celcius/centigrade is "foreign muck". 70's works for me! :o) > > It's Swedish [1], admittedly, but given that Fahrenheit[2] is a German > invention, they're both foreign... Get with the programme, damn you ;) > Well? English is a (sort of) German dialect and our current sovereign's family also originally hails from that part of the world. So traditionally we English have always had a penchant for things German, anyway it was good enough for my grandparents, it's good enough for me. :o) Notwithstanding that my German acquaintances all use SI units (e.g. metres, litres, Celsius, etc.). > Apparently we're supposed to work in SI units, next to go on the list is > Miles, but hey, that can wait for a bit, there's far too many signs to > change for that ;) Yeah, depressing isn't it? <nostalgia-alert>If you ask me the rot set in when we dispensed with good old shillings and pence.</nostalgia-alert> Regards, Keith ____________ ABSURDITY, n. - A statement or belief manifestly inconsistent with one's own opinion. - Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary

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RE: [ALUG] hello from me
by Keith Watson 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

> From: Brett Parker Sent: 03 February 2005 08:10 > > On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 02:44:16PM +0000, Paul wrote: > > > > Speak for yourself - I'm living the American Dream for a month... > > Glorious sunshine, temperatures up in the 70's... > > Paul, I know you in merka, but can you speak in an english tongue and > use celcius instead of fahrenheit, 70 celcius is "rather warm" so I'm > assuming you're in fahrenheit and mean 21.1C ;) Speak for yourself Brett, as far as I'm concerned fahrenheit is English and celcius/centigrade is "foreign muck". 70's works for me! :o) Regards, Keith ____________ What you think you own, owns you. - Zen Saying

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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help! I seem to have lost my broadband connection
by allan miller 02 Feb '05

02 Feb '05

I seem to have lost my broadband connection which has been running trouble free for four months. It happened sometime on Tuesday. It was going OK in the morning but later in the day I couldn't connect and that has been the case since (I only turn it on when I use my computer rather than having it running continuously). The connection has been trouble free since the first day. Although a while back I did experience something similar but it was back up within 24 hours. (But at that time I didn't look into the 'guts' of my router to see what was actually going on). I have a D-Link DSL-504T. The carrier seems to be up but there is no connection. This shows in the router's log: Sep 8 12:00:06> Valid Configuration Tree Sep 8 12:00:10> Firewall NAT service started Jan 1 01:01:00> Bridge Created: br0 Jan 1 01:01:00> Bridge Interface Added: eth0 Jan 1 01:01:04> DSL Carrier is training Jan 1 01:01:14> DSL Carrier is up Jan 1 01:01:19> pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0 Jan 1 01:01:19> Connect: ppp0 {--} I have tried resetting the router's firmware and setting up the connection info again but it still won't connect, even when I explicitly tell it to. It is almost as if the 'other end' is not accepting my login/password any more. I seem to remember coming across a login/password on the net you could use to check that your connection was working but I haven't been able to find it again. There could be several places where the error could be - router, telephone exchange (Norwich), ISP (Tiscali/UKFSN). Can some one explain what is happening and how I can get it working again. TIA Allan Miller

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REMINDER: Christmas Meal tonight @ Blickling
by adam＠thebowery.co.uk 02 Feb '05

02 Feb '05

Hi all, Table has been confirmed for 10 people @ 8pm, we can have a few more if anyone still wants to come and didn't let me know yet. If you just want to come along for a drink and to socialise then feel free. Venue is http://www.buckinghamshirearms-norfolk.co.uk/ (directions are available on that site) Adam -- jabberid = quinophex(a)jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem

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3D Games with Suse 9.1
by Stan Fraser 31 Jan '05

31 Jan '05

Have tried to get 3D games running in Suse 9.1 without success. Set 3D to Enabled but still no good. Have an ATI Radeon 8500SE Card and LCD Digital Monitor. Any help, hints or tips to get it working appreciated. Regards Stan

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Why has 'ls -a' started mixing hidden files with the others?
by Chris Green 31 Jan '05

31 Jan '05

When I issue an 'ls -a' or an 'ls -al' I expect all the hidden files (those with a . prefix) to appear before the others but my latest upgrade seems to have stopped this happening. I much prefer to see the hidden files separately, can I get the old sort order back somehow? I've unset all the LS options in my environment and ls isn't aliased. -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk) "Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence."

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FW: UKUUG LISA/Winter Conference and Perl 6 Workshop
by Alasdair G Kergon 30 Jan '05

30 Jan '05

Preceded by an Exim conference, and FOSDEM starts the day after in Brussels: Sat 26 - Sun 27 Feb, www.fosdem.org (free). The 2nd Gentoo UK meeting takes place in Manchester on Sat 12th March. http://dev.gentoo.org/~stuart/2005/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Announcement: UKUUG LISA/Winter Conference and Perl 6 Workshop Paragon Hotel, Birmingham, 24th & 25th February 2005 UKUUG - the UK's Unix and Open Systems User Group - announces the final programme for their upcoming Winter Conference. This will take place at the Paragon Hotel, Birmingham, on Thursday 24th and Friday 25th February 2005. Earlybird registration closes on Monday 31st January. On Thursday morning, Allison Randal, president of the Perl Foundation and project manager for Perl 6, will deliver a Perl 6 Workshop. The theme of the main conference is "Security and Networks". This begins on Thursday afternoon with a keynote by Wietse Venema, author of TCP Wrappers and the Postfix MTA. The conference also includes speakers from the OpenBSD and FreeBSD projects; Oracle; Hewlett-Packard; University of Oxford; University of Cambridge; and many more. This conference is a must-attend event for system and network administrators. As well as the technical talks, the conference provides a friendly environment for delegates to meet, learn and enjoy lively debate on a host of subjects. See the conference web site for full details and up-to-date information: http://www.ukuug.org/events/winter2005/

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Email Rules
by Peter Hunter 30 Jan '05

30 Jan '05

Hi all, Being new to Linux I am am trying to find my way around and get everything sorted to my liking. One thing I can't seem to find though is how to set up message 'rules' in KMail. I would like to automatically have my messages from different places sent direct to their own mail boxxes. I do this ok in all other email clients I have used on the Mac and MS Windows, but can't seem to find it in Kmail/ Any help would be appreciated. TIA Peter

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