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Cheap and cheerful printer
by John Seago 14 Jun '04

14 Jun '04

I have a HP 710c which has stood unused for some time, free if you want it, (I changed over to a Samsung ML1210 laser two years ago, still on the first of the oiginal toner cartridges). I don't know what happens to the ink if you don't use it for a while though. You should have told the list last Thursday, as I went to Cambridge on Friday and might have been able to go part way to delivering it. -- John Seago Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org)

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"cheap & cheerful" printer
by Ted.Harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 14 Jun '04

14 Jun '04

Hi Folks (apologies for any cross-posts you may receive), I'm looking for a cheap and cheerful printer which I can take with me to other places which may not have print facilities (I don't want to subject my excellent HP Laserjet to shocks and vibrations ... !). I've come across the Lexmark Z708 inkjet, apparently available at PC World for £29.99 (in-store). Not that I like inkjets, since the cartridge price leads to high running costs in the long term (it looks as though Lexmark cartridges, even black and white, cost over $20, i.e. nearly as much as the printer in this case). However, the price is right ... ! Does anyone have any experience of using the Lexmark 708, who can a) Comment on its quality and performance b) Comment on usability with Linux? (USB connection, by the way, which should not be a problem in principle). I haven't been able to suss out from websites what printer language it uses, for instance, so don't know whether ghostscript would be able to convert PS output to drive this printer. With thanks, and best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 167 1972 Date: 14-Jun-04 Time: 09:14:43 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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Am I still subscribed
by Chris Green 14 Jun '04

14 Jun '04

I am having a serious probelm with my mail here at chris(a)areti.co.uk, I seem to have suddenly lost all mailing list mail whereas everything else seems basically OK. If this gets to the list I'd very much appreciate some confirmation E-Mails to any/all of the following addresses:- chris(a)isbd.co.uk chris.green(a)vidus.com cgreeen(a)x-1.net -- Chris Green (chris(a)areti.co.uk)

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 14 Jun '04

14 Jun '04

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Alug library
by adam＠thebowery.co.uk 13 Jun '04

13 Jun '04

Hi all, Today I finally got around to updating the list of books that the Alug library has, the updated list can be found here http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?LibraryBooklist Adam -- jabberid = quinophex(a)jabber.earth.li AFFS || http://www.affs.org.uk/ || Not a filesystem

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European Elections
by John Seago 11 Jun '04

11 Jun '04

On Thursday we all have the chance, together with our families, friends and all those we can influence to vote in the European Election. Look here: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~mikepitt/cambridge_politics/euro04.html Scroll down to the table that shows the previous results. It seems to me that if we made a concerted effort despite our own political convictions to vote UKIP we may be able to unseat the sitting Lib Dem! This will send message, very painful for the man, who will lose an income of about £75000 > £100000 and expenses, to the man, and the party, that due to their voting against our interests in the last parliament we have decided to vote against their interests in this election. This can be rammed home if he does get unseated by sending him, or the Lib Dems office an email telling them that those against Software patents worked to unseat a Candidate of the party that voted the 'wrong way'! Its brutal and unkind, but it will let Politicians know that we are a force to be reckoned with! -- John Seago Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org)

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Re: [ALUG] European Elections
by John Seago 11 Jun '04

11 Jun '04

On Wednesday 09 June 2004 00:35, BenEBoy <psychoferret(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: > But UKIP is a single issue group. If you don't agree with that single > issue then you shouldn't vote for them. In the grand scheme of > things, the UK withdrawing from Europe is more important than > software patents (*dons flame proof trousers*). People shouldn't vote > for UKIP just because they agree with *one* of their policies. Offered a choice between one Candidate I agree with 90% but not the last 10% on an issue on which I am campaigning, and another with whom I don't agree at all, except on that one point, where neither candidate is going to form, with others, a big enough grouping to have much effect, then I'll vote for the latter! > I'm sorry, but unless they election was *very* close, he's not going > to care at all. How many people would vote against him because of > patents? <100? <50? It's an important issue, but a minor one to most > voters. From what I've seen, heard and read, it might indeed be that close, if Andrew Duff loses by ONE vote, and then 200 voters tell him its because they worked to send a message on software patents and voting records, then both he, and the rest of his party who did get elected, are going to pay attention. -- John Seago Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org)

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Meeting report: City Gate Thursday 10 June
by Kirsten Naylor 11 Jun '04

11 Jun '04

A very convivial meeting; myself (wildduck), Adam (quinophex), Jonathan (Noodles), Elisabeth (sunflowerinrain), Brett (iDunno) and Graham. Great fun had by all! We were there from 8pm (latest arrivals around 9pm) till 11.30pm. Hopefully more faces next time - remember, second Thursday of the month at the City Gate. /Kirsten

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Meeting: City Gate, tonight, 8pm!
by Kirsten Naylor 10 Jun '04

10 Jun '04

We're all meeting at 8pm in the City Gate, as per http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2004/all-NorThu.html Directions can be found here http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/citygate.html See you all tonight :) /Kirsten

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Re: [ALUG] European Elections
by John Seago 10 Jun '04

10 Jun '04

On Thursday 10 June 2004 06:25, Adam <adam(a)thebowery.co.uk> wrote: > > Scroll down to the table that shows the previous results. It seems to > > me that if we made a concerted effort despite our own political > > convictions to vote UKIP we may be able to unseat the sitting Lib Dem! > > No, error, bad! wrong! European Parliament elections (AIUI) use a > proportional representation system and going by the results of the last > election is possibly not a good idea. So far I have read that many of > the main parties (especially Conservatives and Labour) are losing votes > to minority parties, so what everyone *must* do is vote, as every vote > for a party that isn't a main party means you make their share of the > vote smaller, at least then even votes for something scary like the BNP > will give the main parties less seats. So like Alan Cox said vote Green > or UKIP (personally I feel the UKIP has more against it than for it) or > one of the other minority parties, I don't suppose anyone knows Martin > Bells position on software patents? I do apologise if that was not what I wrote, I am taking rather a lot of prescription pain-killers lately and this has some effect on my abilities, (luckily the side effect is that I don't care). My intention was to make exactly the same point as Adam has. Even were I to re-read my original post, I know from past experience that I would only see what I meant to write. UKIP may not appear very attractive, however they do appear to be the front runners of the minor parties, but the real point is to VOTE, but NOT for the three big parties. When its political parties, is it party's or parties? -- John Seago Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org)

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