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Re: Boot partitions
by John Seago 29 May '04

29 May '04

The version I used was Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r0 Official i386 binary, I've had them some time, they came from the Linux Emporium, (when it was run by John Winter). Having got it running it just gave me a graphical log in and would only let me log-in as user, the only way I could get to root to reboot was to use a terminal from Gnome and su. Having got to there all I could do was reboot I tried <ls> nothing! Gnome was all that was available as KDE would only get as far as the second of its icons and then revert to the grey screen with the mouse pointer/cursor. I have no doubt whatsoever that all this was incompetence on my part, I'll bring a note book on Sunday for advice. I've also come up with a puzzling phenomena with the boot partition. -- John Seago Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org)

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Business Networking....
by Steve Purkiss 28 May '04

28 May '04

Off-topic but thought some of you may be interested - one of my other hats is running the A12 Club on www.ecademy.com - trying to bring a bit of the networking age to the countryside... so in case any of you are, please come along to our next meeting: The A12 Club is proud to present an evening of Tapas and Andrew Widgery featuring a splendid feast plus a talk on 'How Ecademy is working for so many and how you can make it work for you' by Andrew Widgery, National Development Director of Ecademy at D-Tapas, Chelmsford, Thursday 10th June at from 6pm Cost of the meal is £14.50 (excl. drinks of course) PLEASE NOTE NO-SHOWS WILL STILL HAVE TO PAY SO PLEASE ONLY REGISTER IF YOU ARE COMING We need 20 people for this to happen, please show your support (max. 42). There were 35 at Thomas Power's talk in Ipswich last year, so let's beat that! Register here: http://www.ecademy.com/module.php?mod=meeting&mid=5336 Look forward to meeting you all there, Steve Purkiss A12 Club -- Steve Purkiss Open for Organisations supporting open source software www.open4.org

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Slow Going For Linux In Iraq
by Craig 28 May '04

28 May '04

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,63638,00.html Thought I'll drop this article in ALUG to speed up today ;) C

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Re: Boot Partitions
by John Seago 28 May '04

28 May '04

I have tried a seperate experiment with the boot partitions which as far as I can tell has seemed to work. The installation of Debian however was an entirely different matter. Being armed with "Learning Debian GNU/Linux" published in 1999 was of dubious value. The installer presented me with a plethora of questions which I didn't understand, let alone know the answers to, still blundered on and succeded in getting a poor broken thing which it will be kinder to re-format. One problem being that my hardware seems to be too new for the version of X, perhaps I could have got round that but I sem to have borken it so that it won't let me log in as root on a console. Another try is in order, as I don't know what I did wrong I'll just have to blunder through until I get one I can mend after installation. -- John Seago Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org)

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Temporary goodbye
by Syd Hancock 28 May '04

28 May '04

To all ALUGers: Unfortunately various events and commitments mean that I will be curtailing some of my extra activities for a while. These will have to include the amount of time I spend being involved with mailing lists etc and going to meetings of various types including ALUG. I hope that the evening meetings will continue regularly and that the meeting planned for the end of June at UEA is also very successful. Note that MJR will give a talk. More details on the website. Maybe one of the Norwich regulars could volunteer to announce the monthly meetings to the lists. I will probably not be reading the list for some time so if there are any comments that you want to be sure that I see, please direct them to my email address. Best wishes to all and many thanks for all the advice and support over the past three years. Hopefully I have contributed something useful in return. Syd

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[Alug Announce]Meetings 30 May, 10 June, Goodbye Syd, Help!
by MJ Ray 27 May '04

27 May '04

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- The next Sunday meeting is in Syleham on 30 May from about 2pm. There will be a talk about the euro-elections helping or harming ALUG. Venue and meeting details: http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2004/05-30Sun.html The next 'second thursday' evening meeting in Norwich will be held on Thursday, the 10th of June at the City Gate, Dereham Road, from about 8pm. Venue and meeting details: http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2004/all-NorThu.html Syd Hancock is taking a break, so we need someone else to co-ordinate Norwich meetings, remembering to announce and publicise them. Read Syd's goodbye at http://lists.alug.org.uk/main/2004-May/018838.html -- Thanks for all your work over the last few years, Syd! -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ for creative copyleft computing Help hack the EuroParl! http://mjr.towers.org.uk/proj/eurovote/ ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Early reminder: Norwich evening meeting on 10th June
by Syd Hancock 27 May '04

27 May '04

The next 'second thursday' evening meeting in Norwich will be held this Thursday, the 10th of June at the City Gate, Derham Road, from about 8pm. Full details are on the ALUG website: Venue and meeting details: http://www.alug.org.uk/meetings/2004/all-NorThu.html Venue: full address, photo, link to map etc here: http://www.norwichpubs.info/norwichpubs/pubpages/citygate.htm Syd

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New
by Sue Green 27 May '04

27 May '04

Hi Just dropping a hello in here. My name is Sue and I'm trying to convert from windows to Linux (why does it sound like AA meeting when you start with my name is ....) Anyway, have installed Cygwin on an NT machine for SSH fun and games and looking to replace the current server type unit here with a Linux one in the next round of upgrades. I'm officially IT manager of a small (um, two people including me) company, learning as I go. Anyhoos, I work in Ipswich, live in Kesgrave.. Will be lurking about reading your comments and might chip in with a few dumb questions here and there. Sue www.datadesign.co.uk www.textravaganza.com

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Software Patents
by John Seago 27 May '04

27 May '04

I have recieved this from the Green Party, which I find rather strange, I'd prefer everything in writing. any advice? Margaret Wright has offered to speak to you by 'phone - best probably to email her your tel no. From: Stephen Lawrence, 8 Supanee Court, French's Road, Cambridge, England, CB4 3LB. Tel/Fax +44 1223 564373 -- John Seago Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org)

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Boot partitions
by John Seago 27 May '04

27 May '04

later today I am planning to attempt, after years of using Slackware, an installation of Debian. I have two questions: a) I have the kernel for my Slackware in its own boot partition, as this suits my hardware I intend to use it for the Debian. Can I take it that the proceedure for using the same boot partition for two OS's is to delete the boot file from the second and write the boot partition into /etc/fstab and then reboot? b) I have the seven disks for Debian 3.0 r0, can I take it that I only need to buy the update disk for the latest version to upgrade to the latest stable version? -- John Seago Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org)

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