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Re: [ALUG] Neil just joined.
by C. Neil Bauers 23 May '04

23 May '04

>>My name is Neil. >> >>I'm a teacher. >> >>I teach many Computing and ICT topics but of possible interest to this group is the installation and use of Linux, Apache, >MySQL and PHP with FTP and SSH in there too. I'm keen to learn more as I'm fairly new to all these topics (especially about security and SQL). > > >Hi Neil, > >Where do you teach? Secondary/primary/college? >Wish someone at my daughter's school would teach this stuff! > >Jenny Hi Jenny. I teach at East Norfolk Sixth Form College - Gorleston - Great Yarmouth. This is a Sixth Form College (16 plus students and some adults) We mostly teach this stuff to the BTEC students. I like the BTEC programmes. The syllabus encourages us to use up-to-date software and does not restrict us to Windows. Neil.

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Previous post
by John Seago 23 May '04

23 May '04

I do apologise for not altering the Subject Line on my Post on Software Patents. -- John Seago Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org)

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Verifying CDs
by Joe Button 23 May '04

23 May '04

Hi. While thinking about making some free CDs to give out to people, it occurred to me that I'm suggesting people but CDRs of dubious provenance into their PCs and boot from them, which is probably not a good thing to be suggesting. I was wondering if there was any way people could verify their CD's md5sum against the 'official' one from the distro site. The two hurdles that immediately present themselves are: 1) I don't know how to get an md5sum from a CD once it's been burnt, or whether it would generate the same md5sum as the iso anyway and 2) The target users won't have a Gnu/Linux system with the relevant utilities on. Any suggestions? Joe PS my apologies for nasty pronoun disagreement in second para - feel free to suggest more grammatical rewordings

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Software patents...
by Steve Purkiss 22 May '04

22 May '04

Seen as you're talking about it: -----Forwarded Message----- > From: Steve Purkiss <steve(a)open4.org> > To: Lsp-Discussion <lsp-discussion(a)linuxsolutionproviders.co.uk> > Subject: [LSP-discussion] Richard Stallman 2nite > Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 12:36:09 +0100 > > I'm tempted... anyone else going? > > > Date: 20 May 2004 23:53:20 -0000 > > From: uk-help(a)ffii.org > > To: aaron(a)aaronhorn.co.uk > > Subject: Today (Friday): Richard Stallman and MEP candidates - patents meeting in London > > > > Dear FFII supporter, > > > > Richard Stallman will be giving a one hour talk on software patents in > > London tonight (Friday). > > > > Following the talk, a panel of representatives from the political > > parties will comment, and lay out their party positions.* > > > > > > Richard Stallman > > "The Dangers of Software Patents" > > > > Friday 21 May, 6pm > > > > Cruciform Building, Lecture Theatre #1, > > University College London, > > Gower Street. > > > > The event is free, and all are welcome. > > > > > > Nearest tubes are: > > Euston Square (Circle line, Metropolitan line) > > Warren Street (Victoria line, Northern line) > > > > > > Map: http://www.bcsb.lon.ac.uk/map_mainsiteb&wcrucihighlighted.jpg > > > > > > * Green party, Lib Dems, and UKIP representatives now confirmed. > > Labour and Conservative participation pending. > > > > Organised by the Foundation for Information Policy Research (FIPR), in > > association with the Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure > > (FFII). > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Uk-help maillist > > Subscribe through the project system http://www.ffii.org/assoc/knecht/proj/, fine-tune via http://lists.ffii.org/mailman/listinfo/uk-help > > http://lists.ffii.org/mailman/listinfo/uk-help -- Steve Purkiss Open for Organisations supporting open source software www.open4.org

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Anarchist Bookfair
by MJ Ray 22 May '04

22 May '04

There's an Anarchist Bookfair in Norwich in June. http://twotins.tripod.com/onesolutionanarchistrevolution/id21.html Does anyone (especially anyone with experience of ABs or Norwich Anarchists) want to try selling at-cost CDs of free software at this? Do we have any freebies we could give out? If there's interest, I'll help, but I can't be in Norwich that day IIRC. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ for creative copyleft computing

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Neil just joined.
by nbauers＠samphire.demon.co.uk 21 May '04

21 May '04

Hi. My name is Neil. I'm a teacher. I teach many Computing and ICT topics but of possible interest to this group is the installation and use of Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP with FTP and SSH in there too. I'm keen to learn more as I'm fairly new to all these topics (especially about security and SQL). Cheers. Neil.

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RE: [ALUG] Software patents
by Jenny Hopkins 21 May '04

21 May '04

-----Original Message----- > From: Joe Button [mailto:alug@joebutton.co.uk] > Hi > > Does anyone here actually understand what the situation is > with software > patents in Europe? As I understand it we've basically just > been shafted by > the Council of Ministers. Is there anything we should be > doing at this point? > Has anyone been in touch with Richard Howitt? > > Joe > Joe, there's a pretty active discussion list archived here: http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/fsfe-uk/ Jen > ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

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Software patents
by Joe Button 21 May '04

21 May '04

Hi Does anyone here actually understand what the situation is with software patents in Europe? As I understand it we've basically just been shafted by the Council of Ministers. Is there anything we should be doing at this point? Has anyone been in touch with Richard Howitt? Joe

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Export Outlook contacts to LDAP
by Chris Glover 21 May '04

21 May '04

Hi, Bit of a long one this... pay attention at the back :-) I've got he address book in my phone now syncronised with Outlook, what I want to do now, is convert Outlook contacts into something usefull... LDAP! I really don't like using Outlook at the best of times. Does anyone know a way of converting Outlook exported data, .pst. .csv etc into an ldif file. Ultimately I want to run Openldap on my linux machine, import the data, and hopefully do something fancy with Asterisk PBX. I'm currently bidding for a Cisco 7960 which can use LDAP. Many Thanks Chris -- Chris ---------------------------------- E Mail: chris(a)glovercc.clara.co.uk SIP: 84411389(a)voiptalk.org IAXTEL: 17003366726

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RE: [ALUG] mini usbdrive and permissions
by Jenny Hopkins 21 May '04

21 May '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Dye [mailto:jon@pecorous.co.uk] > Sent: 21 May 2004 10:51 > To: Jenny Hopkins > Cc: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: Re: [ALUG] mini usbdrive and permissions > > > Jenny Hopkins wrote: > > Morning, > > Does anyone know if I can do anything about my mini usbdrive and > > permissions? Because I have to mount it vfat, any linux > files I copy > > to and from end up with ownership and permissions > completely screwed. > > It's an Iomega somethingorother and I mount it thusly: > mount /dev/sda1 > > /mnt/usbdrive -t vfat > > You could mount it as umsdos rather than vfat. From the kernel > documentation: > > "Umsdos is not a file system per se, but a twist to make a > boring one into a useful one. > > It gives you: > > long file names > Permissions and owners > Links > Special files (devices, pipes...) > All that is needed to be a linux root fs." > > > The first time you mount the usb device you'll have to run > umssync /mnt/usbdrive to create the magic --linux-.--- files > which actually store the owner/group and permission stuff but > after that if you mount the drive as umsdos then everything > should just look unixy from then on. > > JD > This seems to have confused the device a bit. Below is a log of what I was attempting to do, starting with including the umsdos module in the running kernel. Now I can't mount the device umsdos without the process hanging and getting a D, or mounting elsewhere as vfat as it says /sda1 is already mounted (but if I try to umount it it says it isn't mounted) Thanks, jen <--SNIP--> if [ -r System.map ]; then /sbin/depmod -ae -F System.map 2.4.20; fi ducati:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20# mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbdrive/ -t umsdos ducati:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20# umssync /mnt/usbdrive bash: umssync: command not found ducati:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20# apt-cache search umssync ducati:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20# apt-cache search umsdos umsdos - utilities for controlling a umsdos filesystem ducati:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20# apt-get install umsdos Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: umsdos 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 191 not upgraded. Need to get 18.7kB of archives. After unpacking 65.5kB of additional disk space will be used. Get:1 ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org testing/main umsdos 1.13-2.1 [18.7kB] Fetched 18.7kB in 17s (1063B/s) Selecting previously deselected package umsdos. (Reading database ... 51207 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking umsdos (from .../umsdos_1.13-2.1_i386.deb) ... Setting up umsdos (1.13-2.1) ... Syncing UMSDOS filesystems ... ducati:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20# umssync /mnt/usbdrive This utility must operate on a directory of a umsdos mounted file system. Even an msdos file system won't do. If this is the case umount the file system and remount it as a umsdos one. ducati:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20# umount /mnt/usbdrive Segmentation fault ducati:/usr/src/linux-2.4.20# mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbdrive/ -t umsdos ....and i was left hanging here. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

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