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Software patents
by John Seago 24 May '04

24 May '04

Further to my previous post, here are the start points for the three largest parties. Others may be able to refine these to individuals Email addresses. http://www.conservatives.com/meps/candidates.cfm http://www.labour.org.uk/britainisworking/europeancandidates http://www.east.libdems.org/euromessage.htm -- John Seago Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org)

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Gentoo driving me mad
by Charles Garcia-Tobin 24 May '04

24 May '04

Hello all I'm doing a gentoo install on my shuttle cube, and I am gravitating towards utter lunacy! Basically the motherboard has all the nvidia nforce bits. Consequently until I can compile the kernel I can't put in the drivers for my NIC. No problem you download the universal livecd and uncompress stage1 and the the necessary bits should be there. Under usr/portage/distfiles I should have the necessary files to get me up to kernel level .... except there are a few minor things missing, you know little things like gcc or glibc, ... Ok so that's still only a minor problem, I can find out the list of missing files, reboot into windows, download them to a shared partition and off I go. Conviniently the bootstrap script that sets every up has a --fetchonly (-f) option will list all the missing packages. So I do bootstrap -f > /tmp/files oh bother most of the packages are coming out to stderr ok so I rephrase bootstrap -f 2>&1> /tmp/files It's still doing it I can't the list into /tmp/files aarrrrhhhh I'm not a bash expert but I thought the above syntax was ok So in short does anyone know how I can get this list of files before they put the straight jacket on me and I can't even type!! Cheers Charles

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Software patents
by John Seago 24 May '04

24 May '04

I note that there was some interest in discussing my post on the above subject. Was there the same level of interest in undertaking my suggested course of action? -- John Seago

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Re: main digest, Vol 3 #160 - 12 msgs
by John Seago 24 May '04

24 May '04

On Sunday 23 May 2004 06:25, Joe Button <alug(a)joebutton.co.uk>wrote: Joe Button <alug(a)joebutton.co.uk> > I'd be interested if it was on another date, and more interested still > if it was in Norwich. > > Really I just want someone to tell me what to do, rather than explain > the issues. I'm happy to lobby my MEP but I don't know what I'm supposed > to suggest that he does at the moment. Just send this: <What is the XXXXX party's policy on Software patents within europe?> to the Conservatives, Labour, Liberal Democrats, BNP, Greens, English Democrats and the Indepedents. It serves to make them think, and raises the matter as an issue in this election. You can then follow it up with whatever Mark has later -- John Seago Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org)

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 24 May '04

24 May '04

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [ALUG] Neil just joined.
by C. Neil Bauers 23 May '04

23 May '04

>>My name is Neil. >> >>I'm a teacher. >> >>I teach many Computing and ICT topics but of possible interest to this group is the installation and use of Linux, Apache, >MySQL and PHP with FTP and SSH in there too. I'm keen to learn more as I'm fairly new to all these topics (especially about security and SQL). > > >Hi Neil, > >Where do you teach? Secondary/primary/college? >Wish someone at my daughter's school would teach this stuff! > >Jenny Hi Jenny. I teach at East Norfolk Sixth Form College - Gorleston - Great Yarmouth. This is a Sixth Form College (16 plus students and some adults) We mostly teach this stuff to the BTEC students. I like the BTEC programmes. The syllabus encourages us to use up-to-date software and does not restrict us to Windows. Neil.

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Previous post
by John Seago 23 May '04

23 May '04

I do apologise for not altering the Subject Line on my Post on Software Patents. -- John Seago Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org)

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Verifying CDs
by Joe Button 23 May '04

23 May '04

Hi. While thinking about making some free CDs to give out to people, it occurred to me that I'm suggesting people but CDRs of dubious provenance into their PCs and boot from them, which is probably not a good thing to be suggesting. I was wondering if there was any way people could verify their CD's md5sum against the 'official' one from the distro site. The two hurdles that immediately present themselves are: 1) I don't know how to get an md5sum from a CD once it's been burnt, or whether it would generate the same md5sum as the iso anyway and 2) The target users won't have a Gnu/Linux system with the relevant utilities on. Any suggestions? Joe PS my apologies for nasty pronoun disagreement in second para - feel free to suggest more grammatical rewordings

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Software patents...
by Steve Purkiss 22 May '04

22 May '04

Seen as you're talking about it: -----Forwarded Message----- > From: Steve Purkiss <steve(a)open4.org> > To: Lsp-Discussion <lsp-discussion(a)linuxsolutionproviders.co.uk> > Subject: [LSP-discussion] Richard Stallman 2nite > Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 12:36:09 +0100 > > I'm tempted... anyone else going? > > > Date: 20 May 2004 23:53:20 -0000 > > From: uk-help(a)ffii.org > > To: aaron(a)aaronhorn.co.uk > > Subject: Today (Friday): Richard Stallman and MEP candidates - patents meeting in London > > > > Dear FFII supporter, > > > > Richard Stallman will be giving a one hour talk on software patents in > > London tonight (Friday). > > > > Following the talk, a panel of representatives from the political > > parties will comment, and lay out their party positions.* > > > > > > Richard Stallman > > "The Dangers of Software Patents" > > > > Friday 21 May, 6pm > > > > Cruciform Building, Lecture Theatre #1, > > University College London, > > Gower Street. > > > > The event is free, and all are welcome. > > > > > > Nearest tubes are: > > Euston Square (Circle line, Metropolitan line) > > Warren Street (Victoria line, Northern line) > > > > > > Map: http://www.bcsb.lon.ac.uk/map_mainsiteb&wcrucihighlighted.jpg > > > > > > * Green party, Lib Dems, and UKIP representatives now confirmed. > > Labour and Conservative participation pending. > > > > Organised by the Foundation for Information Policy Research (FIPR), in > > association with the Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure > > (FFII). > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Uk-help maillist > > Subscribe through the project system http://www.ffii.org/assoc/knecht/proj/, fine-tune via http://lists.ffii.org/mailman/listinfo/uk-help > > http://lists.ffii.org/mailman/listinfo/uk-help -- Steve Purkiss Open for Organisations supporting open source software www.open4.org

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Anarchist Bookfair
by MJ Ray 22 May '04

22 May '04

There's an Anarchist Bookfair in Norwich in June. http://twotins.tripod.com/onesolutionanarchistrevolution/id21.html Does anyone (especially anyone with experience of ABs or Norwich Anarchists) want to try selling at-cost CDs of free software at this? Do we have any freebies we could give out? If there's interest, I'll help, but I can't be in Norwich that day IIRC. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ for creative copyleft computing

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