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re microsoft invasion and NTL broadband
by tom potts 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

Thanks for the broadband info. I think the MAC address NTL want is the one on their modem not the one in your PC - I now found out the modem signal is 20db down so they're sending out an engineer. Re M$ - I have slagged them off for years for lock-in but I would recommend anyone who does internet programming to have a very good look at .NET And then at http:\\www.go-mono.com If they (or someone else) can provide the .NET framework for apache2 and a nice IDE no workstation in any business with an IT aware staff will ever need to upgrade their workstations again. The last bit is a bit much to ask but M$ have produced the technology that will kill them! LOL Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Meeting at London Linux Expo?
by MJ Ray 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

The London Linux Expo is next week, Wednesday and Thursday, probably http://www.linuxexpo.co.uk/ or similar. Previous years, ALUG people have met up around lunchtime for a (not so) swift drink in the pub over the road. Can I suggest that we continue the tradition and meet up at 1pm on the Thursday by the Association For Free Software and Debian stands? (If someone wants to arrange a Wednesday meet-up, feel free, but I can't as I'm not there...) MJR

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Re: [Alug] NTL Broadband
by Ricardo Campos 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

> I got round this by taking out my second Ethernet card so I only had the one. I only have 1 at the moment. > I then got all the software I needed ie. DHCPCD. Put the other ethernet card back in and it all stated to work. I tried dhcp-client, but that didn't get any info at all! :'( . Did you install dhcpd from source? I could always d/l source using windoze, and then mount the 'doze partition and get the source from there. This linux box (perhaps I'll worry about the ipcop one later) doesn't need to be a dhcp server, just a client. /me is confused, frustrated etc. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] NTL Broadband
by Ricardo Campos 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

And to provide a little more info on the problem.... I use pump as it was (for whatever reason) installed with Debian Woody. Changing my dhcp client would require a net connection.... One thing I found out (by STFW: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/28208) was that Linux broadcasts it's MAC address in a different way to Windoze, so the suggestion was to reset the set top box, bring up the interface, then re-register on NTL. Fine, only there's a problem. I wish to use a dedicated router/firewall (www.ipcop.org). I'm fine with transferring NICs between computers, however the ipcop box *could* ping outside (having transferred the NIC, and resolve hosts. So that kinda throws that theory away. Unfortunately, clients on the internal network can't resolve hosts or ping outside going through the ipcop firewall. (also, ipcop has now browser capable of doing the register process anyway. in fact, it comes with no browser). I know the wordwrap is fscked, btw, as soon as I get connected in linux I'll use a proper mail reader. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] NTL Broadband
by Ricardo Campos 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

> I've had NTL broadband installed and, for the life of > me, cant get anything other than W2K/IE5.5 to connect > to it properly. > The Linux box gives me an IP/DNS and gateway from DHCP > but doesnt seem to want to work. > Anybody got any clues? > Tom That's just plain spooky. Me too! lol Indeed, I get an IP address, DNS, and gateway, but it can't ping the external network, or resolve any hostnames. I've spent all day today doing this! What do you put in your hosts file when you use DHCP? i.e. my old one was something like: 127.0.0.1 localhost 10.0.0.1 pixiedust pixiedust But as I don't know my IP in advance- what should I do? Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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NTL Broadband
by tom potts 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

I've had NTL broadband installed and, for the life of me, cant get anything other than W2K/IE5.5 to connect to it properly. The Linux box gives me an IP/DNS and gateway from DHCP but doesnt seem to want to work. Anybody got any clues? Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Starting Open Office v1.0
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 09 Oct '02

09 Oct '02

Open Office takes one and a half minutes to start on my machine running Debian Testing. The machine has 1.3 GHz Athlons and 512MB RAM so I don't think that's the problem. Anyone else have a similar experience? Barry Samuels

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Re: [Alug] Meeting at London Linux Expo?
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

MJRay wrote: >I'll be the guy on a neighbouring stand, heckling. ;-) > >(Not really!) Excellent! Well, I've washed my "I Love Microsoft" teeshirt, broken my laptop, broken the board I'm meant to be demo-ing and failed to work out how to get a rucksack full of equipment to London on a motorbike. I'm currently trying to work out what I got rid of in pcmcia when I decided that the day before the linux expo was the best day for my first ever kernel rebuild :-) Jen.

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Re: [Alug] Meeting at London Linux Expo?
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

>>Would love to meet some more of you guys. I will be attending Wednesday, so >>any1 going give me a shout :) I'm going to be on the deb stand on Thursday showing the newly developed balloon board running a custom-built version of debian, so I will see Thursday people there. I'll be trying hard to look as though I know what I'm talking about. Jenny.

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How to waste a Friday night.
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 07 Oct '02

07 Oct '02

Syd Hancock wrote: >Also willing to burn copies of Woody for the cost of CDs and >postage if anyone is interested. I have all 7 CDs if you want the >lot. Syd - may I take you upon this offer? I'll mail you off-list but thought I'd share my story of how to waste a large amount of time first: On Friday night I tried to get my winmodem going. In order to do this I had to install a bit of software from the linmodem site. In order to do that I had to upgrade my kernel from 2.2.ancientthing to 2.4.x. In order to do *that* I had to update and upgrade all my packages and dist from potato.ancient.stuff (I only have one phone line with a dialup modem connection so don't tend to do this very often)(and as the modem has been out of order for several weeks even less so). I couldn't point sourceslist to the internet obviously, so I used the main woody install disk someone had burnt for me. Guess what, the cdrom wasn't functioning. So I set up a samba share to the windows cdrom and tried that, which didn't work as samba asking for a password coincided each time with apt-get asking to insert cdrom and press enter, so it kept going in a loop. So I copied the entire 650m cdrom contents to the linux box and pointed apt at that, whooping with joy when I got the source-list right, but it kept erroring out halfway through. So on Saturday I put in a cdrom drive that worked, pointed sources list back to the cdrom, and then found out the burnt cdrom was faulty and the second half wouldn't read. Of course, I could have saved hours of time and had an internet connection simply by putting the winmodem in the windows machine, but that would have been *far* too easy. Anyhow, thanks to all for the USB and kernel answers, I'm now about to upgrade the laptop as that seems the best option. Thanks. Jenny.

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