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Microsoft Invasion of UEA
by James Edward John Taylor 12 Oct '02

12 Oct '02

We have just been infomred that SYS have invited Micorosft to come with their promotional bus to UEA where they are going to show off all their really interesting stuff to unsuscpecting and highly guillable SYSkiddies. Whats the possibility of trying to get someone from the FSF to do a stand in the Hive at the same time? Dates adn dimtes are yet to be confirmed. J

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adding a prog (DHCP) to rc in debian
by Ricardo Campos 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

OK. Debian Woody... So I've ditched pump and installed dhcp3-client. However, this client doesn't start up at boot time. man dhcp3 doesn't have any entries. I'm a little stumped. How could I find binary the package installed, and then, how could I get it to start when linux boots to a networked run level. It's amazing how much more difficult linux is to use when you can't STFW! -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] USB + 2.4.19 + pcmcia
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

>Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com <Jenny_Hopkins(a)toby-churchill.com> wrote: >> Has anyone else experienced problems with USB using kernel 2.4.19? [...] > >No. Use lsmod on your new and old kernel systems to make sure that you're >still using the same USB hci module. Some boards work with more than one, >with differing rates of success. > OK, ta. I didn't have usb working before, having never needed it until now. >> Can I simply copy the /lib/modules/2.2.20/pcmcia directory to >> /lib/modules/2.4.19/pcmcia [...] > Lewis Collard wrote: >No, the chances are very high that won't work. insmod will refuse to install >the module; there's the evil way of insmod -f but you'll almost certainly get >a bunch of undefined symbol errors if you try the. Just compile the same >drivers under 2.4.19 and it'll work as well as before. MJRay wrote >I agree with the other answer: No. Use lsmod on the old system to get the >net module name and enable that in "make menuconfig" on the new kernel. >Then, I think, it will all "just work". I did this - the modules used were axnet_cs and i82365, I then remade the kernel using the net module that was axnet_cs, but there was nothing for i82365 (that i could see in the pcmcia section); this is now what the laptop is complaining about (the lack of i82365) hence my wonder if i could actually just stuff it all from one to the other. Sorry to ask daft Qs :-( Nothing "just works" with me. Jen

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Anyone tried out Red Hat 8.0 or Mandrake 9.0 yet?
by Keith Watson 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

Both of these distro's seem to be getting good write ups wrt their ease of installation with some articles (see www.theregister.co.uk) even suggesting they are now serious challengers to MS Windows. I wondered if anyone in ALUG has any practical experience of these yet? By the way, spent an evening playing around with installing Woody last night. Very impressed, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who didn't have at least a smattering of technical knowledge of unix or pc hardware, but, personally, I found it installed very smoothly except for insisting I should install ISDN support (even though I don't have ISDN!? or, at least, I don't think I have :o) ) and producing a very bizarre XF86Config file. Both of these were fairly easily dealt with and everything else ran quite happily, I suspect I'd unintentionally selected some unwanted options somewhere along the line. Keith ____________ A leader is not the leader, therefore he is called leader. D.T. Suzuki (par)

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Re: [Alug] NTL Broadband
by Ricardo Campos 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

ref: http://lists.linuxemporium.co.uk/pipermail/lbc/2001-October/008807.html I think that it is pump that is at fault here. That would explain why ipcop could connect fine. However, it doesn't explain why the debian box wouldn't work whilst routing through the ipcop machine. confusering. :/ -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] re microsoft invasion and NTL broadband
by Ricardo Campos 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

> I think the MAC address NTL want is the one on their > modem not the one in your PC - I now found out the > modem signal is 20db down so they're sending out an > engineer. I use a set top box! I think there may be a problem with the dhcp client I was using- but I have no time to check this, as it is the weekend, and time for fun rather than work! -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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re microsoft invasion and NTL broadband
by tom potts 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

Thanks for the broadband info. I think the MAC address NTL want is the one on their modem not the one in your PC - I now found out the modem signal is 20db down so they're sending out an engineer. Re M$ - I have slagged them off for years for lock-in but I would recommend anyone who does internet programming to have a very good look at .NET And then at http:\\www.go-mono.com If they (or someone else) can provide the .NET framework for apache2 and a nice IDE no workstation in any business with an IT aware staff will ever need to upgrade their workstations again. The last bit is a bit much to ask but M$ have produced the technology that will kill them! LOL Tom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Meeting at London Linux Expo?
by MJ Ray 11 Oct '02

11 Oct '02

The London Linux Expo is next week, Wednesday and Thursday, probably http://www.linuxexpo.co.uk/ or similar. Previous years, ALUG people have met up around lunchtime for a (not so) swift drink in the pub over the road. Can I suggest that we continue the tradition and meet up at 1pm on the Thursday by the Association For Free Software and Debian stands? (If someone wants to arrange a Wednesday meet-up, feel free, but I can't as I'm not there...) MJR

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Re: [Alug] NTL Broadband
by Ricardo Campos 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

> I got round this by taking out my second Ethernet card so I only had the one. I only have 1 at the moment. > I then got all the software I needed ie. DHCPCD. Put the other ethernet card back in and it all stated to work. I tried dhcp-client, but that didn't get any info at all! :'( . Did you install dhcpd from source? I could always d/l source using windoze, and then mount the 'doze partition and get the source from there. This linux box (perhaps I'll worry about the ipcop one later) doesn't need to be a dhcp server, just a client. /me is confused, frustrated etc. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] NTL Broadband
by Ricardo Campos 10 Oct '02

10 Oct '02

And to provide a little more info on the problem.... I use pump as it was (for whatever reason) installed with Debian Woody. Changing my dhcp client would require a net connection.... One thing I found out (by STFW: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/28208) was that Linux broadcasts it's MAC address in a different way to Windoze, so the suggestion was to reset the set top box, bring up the interface, then re-register on NTL. Fine, only there's a problem. I wish to use a dedicated router/firewall (www.ipcop.org). I'm fine with transferring NICs between computers, however the ipcop box *could* ping outside (having transferred the NIC, and resolve hosts. So that kinda throws that theory away. Unfortunately, clients on the internal network can't resolve hosts or ping outside going through the ipcop firewall. (also, ipcop has now browser capable of doing the register process anyway. in fact, it comes with no browser). I know the wordwrap is fscked, btw, as soon as I get connected in linux I'll use a proper mail reader. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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