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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 02 Sep '02

02 Sep '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.alug.org.uk in the #alug channel. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server irc.alug.org.uk" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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MySQL Installation
by David Crease 01 Sep '02

01 Sep '02

I installed the binary of MySQL 3.23.51 according to the recipe, I believe. However, when I attempted to start the mysql daemon it gives the message that the daemon is starting immediately followed by a timed message "mysqld ended". Checking that the daemon is not, in fact, running with mysqladmin -p ping gives error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (111)' Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/tmp/mysql.sock' exists! ls shows the socket is there. Another look for the daemon with ps -aux |grep mysql did not show mysqld to be running. Suggestions, please. Memories of Religious Instruction lessons many decades ago seem to indicate that some people were trouble with plagues of daemons. I do not recall anyone being bothered by the absence of daemons. Perhaps this is a rich vein for theological research. With suitable funding from the Vatican, Canterbury, etc there might be a career opportunity for someone. Dave Crease

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FAO John Atkinson VMware 3.0
by John Seago 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

I have a cover disk trial version of VMware if you still want to try it out contact me at the above Email address and I post it to you. -- John Seago

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normal user access to pppd
by Ricardo Campos 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

At the moment I have to su and then run the pon script to go online. That's fine for me, but my machine will soon be multi-user, and I don't want the others to have root's password! What permissions would I need to do to so that normal users could simply type pon to connect? On a similar note, my digital camera downloads pics via the serial port /dev/ttyS0. Unfortunately I have to be root to do this. I have changed the permissions on that device before, but it keeps changing it back???? Weird! What's my best option to solve these probs? permissions on the port/pppd/pon? or set up something with sudo? TIA Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] September 1st Stalham Cancelled
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 12:31:22PM +0100, Adam Bower wrote: > Hangon, does this mean there is a meeting on the 1st or not? > > /me is very confused now I think Rob was offering to host a meeting at Elmswell, since the previously arranged one by Keith at Stalham had to be cancelled. However, as no one responded I doubt Rob arranged it. I'm not sure we even have another meeting arranged yet, unless there was a UEA in October. Website says: Stalham on 1st September(cancelled) BBQ in mid Sept? (didn't happen in July) Nelson Court, UEA, Norwich in October? Jenny.

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Re: [Alug] September 1st Stalham Cancelled
by Jenny_Hopkins＠toby-churchill.com 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

Keith Watson wrote: >Apologies to all but I'll have to cancel the meeting this Sunday. > >The management here at Stalham have asked me to pass on their apologies >also. > >Apparently there's a problem with our public liability insurance, or to be >more accurate the terms of it have changed since we last used the site for >something like this a couple of years back. > >Very sorry about the late notice. > >Keith No worries - can't be helped. Does that leave the next meeting to be at the uni in Norwich, Octoberish? We'll have to pine till then. Jenny.

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UEA, Norwich on the 1st September?
by Alexis Lee 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

Hi all, I fancy a meeting on the 1st September. Not least so I can get my rustlefustlegrastlefstin GPG key signed. Noodles, slef, adam, ricardo, anyone else: mail boo(a)ikitten.co.uk if you're interested, and I'll book a room. Probably be Nelson Common Room B again. Adam - I have a CD burner (if slightly erratic), so maybe if you picked me up in your lovely car we could LAN our machines and distribute Debian to the masses? If you'd rather not, no problem. Alexis -- "Ruby is the language Buddha would have programmed in" - Sean Russell "I respect faith, but doubt is what gives you an education" - Wilson Mizner "You got what everyone gets. A lifetime." - Death (Sandman by Neil Gaiman)

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Extracting RPM contents.
by Douglas Willis 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

Hi, Does any one know how to extract the contents of an RPM without installing it? The reason I want to do this is I have an RPM that I want to install into a customised location rather than the defaults that are scripted in the RPM install script. -- Douglas Willis (ddw(a)nerc-bas.ac.uk) British Antarctic Survey High Cross, Madingley Road Cambridge, CB3 0ET, United Kingdom tel: +44 1223 221400, fax: +44 1223 362616

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Silver Lining
by Ian Bell 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

You may remember I reproted having my old PII 233 laptop stolen a while ago. Thanks to a new for old insurance policy I am now the proud owner of a brand new Dell Inspiron 2650 with a P4 1.6GHz processor running RH7.3. Happy Ian

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Re: [Alug] Mandrake install worked!
by Syd Hancock 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

Hi Russell Congratulations - have fun. I'm just a dabbler, by contrast with most people on the list who seem to be IT professionals. I had a similar experience to you - I was astonished to find a desktop after doing my first install! Not at all what I had expected from the recommended Linux books. All the same, the command line is essential - especially being able to switch to a different console when things go a bit wonky... Some things are easiest done with a GUI - like file copying etc, as you mention - many things can really only be done, or are best done, at the command line. Basically there are a huge number of things to learn and you will just have to pick them up as you go along. Mandrake tries to make it easy and approachable for the inexperienced user - the more experienced find it frustrating for that reason but for many people a lot of hand-holding and being able to do fun things right from the start is a good place to begin. But at some point we all have to start reading and studying and trying things out and breaking them and then trying to find out how to fix them <grin>. I do suggest that you look at the Mandrake support sites, especially <http://www.mandrakeuser.org> which has a lot of helpful, detailed, easy to understand information in the document section. They are useful for any inexperienced linux user, not just MDK users, as are the Suse and Redhat online support. The mandrake user and refrence guides are also invaluable. Best wishes, ask away when you need help - as long as you're making some effort to work things out for yourself then people will be very glad to help. Regards Syd

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