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Small question
by Steve Kuo 08 Jul '01

08 Jul '01

Anyone know how I'd go about taking a screenshot? Not in KDE or anything, just plain bash ===== --------------- Steve Kuo "How can we claim to be an advanced and civilized society when no other creatures on Earth develops technology to blow themselves up three times over?" ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

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Re: [Alug] Some help with Mulinux, please.
by MJ Ray 08 Jul '01

08 Jul '01

Andrew J Glover <flexifoil(a)btinternet.com> writes: > By its name, I would think its an extension of another WM, aewm: > http://www.red-bean.com/~decklin/aewm/ Correct. Frank Hale translated it to C++, via http://sapphire.sourceforge.net/ and we're still working on tidying up that core. That should be a work-alike of aewm, which I don't find particularly easy to use. I'm maintaining my work as a patch so that I can merge in fixes to aewm++ as they become available. My little fork adds in some features that I miss such as: - right-side grab bar which moves the window like the title bar - raise on move - resize box at bottom right - split minimise and maximise buttons - funky 3d shading effect - removes at least two semantic bugs in button presses I use the included root menu applications, but I've also got apps (goodies, in the terminology of the project) which do such things as virtual desktops, hot keys, autoraise, a "busy watch" pointer when CPU is busy and alt-tab window switching. Other people are working on adding automake/autoconf and writing a decent root menu goodie. Some time, we may get around to adding FreeDesktop wm-spec support so that it'll play nice with GNOME-aware apps. The basic idea is to make the window management system as modular as is practical, so you can choose the right mix of features for you, minimise your memory usage and maximise the speed. Don't like alt-tab? Don't have it! Want different root menus? Fine, just replace the goodies concerned! All this without having a bloated window manager that supports all possibilities. That's the bit which will take some packaging together, preferably with a "control panel" or something that lets you switch features off and on. Anyway, until then, I'll send the patch to whoever wants it. I guess I'll say something on-list when it's packaged. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Some help with Mulinux, please.
by MJ Ray 08 Jul '01

08 Jul '01

Steve Fosdick <fozzy(a)pelvoux.demon.co.uk> writes: > a small window manager (like fvwm) [...] My feelings are hurt. aewm++-1.0.3mjr3 is the place to be ;-) One day I might even release it. -- MJR

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amigo
by Jenny Hopkins 08 Jul '01

08 Jul '01

Neil Sedger wrote: >'CLI' eh? >I spot an ex-Amiga user :-) Sorry to disappoint you! No, a neal Stephenson reader! Jen

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Some help with Mulinux, please.
by Ruleng＠aol.com 08 Jul '01

08 Jul '01

Hello Everyone. My name is Norman Rule as you see. I am 70 years old, and use a Dan computer which had an i486 DX-33, since enhanced to 133Mh with an Evergreen upgrade. I have two hard disks with a total of about 650 Mb, but as yet no functional CDROM drive. I use MSDOS 6.2, enhanced with 4DOS, and I have Windows for Workgroups, which I only use for programs that demand it. I would like to try Linux as an alternative to examine its possibilities, and from reading believe my system will suffice. However, I decided to start off by trying the Italian small offering called Mulinux. I have been able to start this system either from my hard drive, or from a Boot+Root+Usr 1.772 Mb floppy. My problem is that there are several add-ons that one should be able to introduce with such titles as X11, GCC, VNC, TEX, etc. I have had continuous failure to add these, and since I only have 3 hours a month on the Net from AOL I feel that I cannot spend too much time trying to download different material in a blind attempt to solve my problems. There seem to be no useful documents to help ones first efforts. If anyone has the experience of Mulinux and the time to help me I would be very grateful. By the way, I dabble in Assembly Language and have one or two questions on that if there is anyone out there who would have time to help me. I do have a 40X CDROM drive but so far have not been able to get that to function either. I get the message that an appropriate driver cannot be found. I realise that this group is primarily interested in Linux, so I would ask for any help with that first, please. Sincere regards, Norman G. Rule

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Re: [Alug] Arrrrggg!
by MJ Ray 08 Jul '01

08 Jul '01

Steve Fosdick <fozzy(a)pelvoux.demon.co.uk> writes: > Have you got samples of blood-curdling horror screams on each of the > notes from C3 to C4 inclusive? I'm sure it's not too hard to find one and snd and sox are wonderful tools... I'd do it for you, but I'm off in deep hacking atm... -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Retail theropy - AC3, DVD and linux
by MJ Ray 08 Jul '01

08 Jul '01

David Freeman <david_freeman(a)rocketmail.com> writes: > I have heard compiling X is something of a black art, is this the case? No, it's an apt-get sequence. > as you know I have know problem compiling my own programs for th OS. ? > I only need X 4 for Quake and Herione warrior, can you use unstable > packages with a stable release? Not usually, but people have packaged X'4 for stable too. I installed it on a tsw machine recently and it worked happily, although two packages had dodgy dependencies against X'3 and had to be recompiled. -- MJR

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Xdefaults
by oms101＠freeuk.com 08 Jul '01

08 Jul '01

A while ago we where discussing X and .Xdefaults and I discovered that some people might want some of my settings for X If you type use KDE it can be anoying the way you X applications look and feel is modified by apply changes to all X windows deleting some of your changes to the ~/.Xdefaults file. (I now use ice which is well customised now maybe I should post my theme some time to themes.org or even here) at the end of the ~/.Xdefaults file on my account you will see the line <Quote> #include "etc/X/Xresorces/Main" </Quote> This prevents programs overwriting my Xdefault which I set So fav I have only set up a couple of programs The links to a file called Main which further links to setups for 4 applications and looks like <Quote> #include "XTerm" #include "Nedit" #include "Netscape" #include "Ddd" </Quote> The files XTerm Nedit Netscape and Ddd have appended I hope this will improve the look of your X enviroment, The support for wheel mouse in Xterms and Nedit is now an essential for me. Enjoy Owen ------------------filedelimiter----------------------- Ddd ------------------filedelimiter----------------------- Ddd*XmText.background: black Ddd*XmText.foreground: white ------------------filedelimiter----------------------- Nedit ------------------filedelimiter----------------------- !========================================================================== ! NeDiT Settings from OMS !========================================================================== ! NEdit*fontList: -*-lucidatypewriter-bold-r-*-*-17-*-*-*-*-*-*-* NEdit*text.selectForeground: red nedit*text.selectBackground: gray80 nedit*text.highlightBackground: red nedit*text.highlightForeground: white nedit.remapDeleteKey: False # NEdit NEdit*text.Translations: #override\n\ Shift<Btn4Down>,<Btn4Up>: scroll_up(1)\n\ Shift<Btn5Down>,<Btn5Up>: scroll_down(1)\n\ Ctrl<Btn4Down>,<Btn4Up>: previous_page()\n\ Ctrl<Btn5Down>,<Btn5Up>: next_page(1)\n\ <Btn4Down>,<Btn4Up>: scroll_up(3)\n\ <Btn5Down>,<Btn5Up>: scroll_down(3)\n nedit.stdOpenDialog: True ------------------filedelimiter----------------------- Netscape ------------------filedelimiter----------------------- !## NETSCAPE Netscape*drawingArea.translations: #replace \ <Btn1Down>: ArmLink() \n\ <Btn2Down>: ArmLink() \n\ ~Shift<Btn1Up>: ActivateLink() \n\ ~Shift<Btn2Up>: ActivateLink(new-window) \ DisarmLink() \n\ Shift<Btn1Up>: ActivateLink(save-only) \ DisarmLink() \n\ Shift<Btn2Up>: ActivateLink(save-only) \ DisarmLink() \n\ <Btn1Motion>: DisarmLinkIfMoved() \n\ <Btn2Motion>: DisarmLinkIfMoved() \n\ <Btn3Motion>: DisarmLinkIfMoved() \n\ <Motion>: DescribeLink() \n\ <Btn3Down>: xfeDoPopup() \n\ <Btn3Up>: ActivatePopup() \n\ Ctrl<Btn4Down>: PageUp()\n\ Ctrl<Btn5Down>: PageDown()\n\ Shift<Btn4Down>: LineUp()\n\ Shift<Btn5Down>: LineDown()\n\ None<Btn4Down>: LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\ None<Btn5Down>: LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()\n\ Alt<Btn4Down>: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n\ Alt<Btn5Down>: xfeDoCommand(back)\n Netscape*globalNonTextTranslations: #override\n\ Shift<Btn4Down>: LineUp()\n\ Shift<Btn5Down>: LineDown()\n\ None<Btn4Down>:LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\ None<Btn5Down>:LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()\n\ Alt<Btn4Down>: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n\ Alt<Btn5Down>: xfeDoCommand(back)\n ------------------filedelimiter----------------------- XFMail ------------------filedelimiter----------------------- !========================================================================== ! XFMail Settings from OMS !========================================================================== ! xfmail*text.Translations: #override\n\ <Btn4Down>,<Btn4Up>:a\n\ <Btn5Down>,<Btn5Up>:a\n\ ------------------filedelimiter----------------------- XTerm ------------------filedelimiter----------------------- ! =========================================================================== ! Basic !=========================================================================== !Changed as to big a window on display !.xterm.geometry: 80x45 .xterm.geometry: 78x18 .xterm.vt100.background: black .xterm.vt100.foreground: grey .xterm.vt100.color0: #000000 .xterm.vt100.color1: #d36265 .xterm.vt100.color2: #aece91 .xterm.vt100.color3: #e7e18c .xterm.vt100.color4: #7a7ab0 .xterm.vt100.color5: #963c59 .xterm.vt100.color6: #418179 .xterm.vt100.color7: gray .xterm.vt100.color8: gray40 .xterm.vt100.color9: #ef8171 .xterm.vt100.color10: #e5f779 .xterm.vt100.color11: #fff796 .xterm.vt100.color12: #4186be .xterm.vt100.color13: #ef9ebe .xterm.vt100.color14: #71bebe .xterm.vt100.color15: white .xterm*fontMenu*background: green ! =========================================================================== ! Motif ! =========================================================================== !*XmText.translations: #override\n\ ! <Key>osfDelete: delete-previous-character()\n\ ! <Key>osfBackSpace: delete-next-character()\n ! !*XmTextField.translations: #override\n\ ! <Key>osfDelete: delete-next-character()\n\ ! <Key>osfBackSpace: delete-previous-character()\n ! =========================================================================== ! XTerm ! =========================================================================== !*vt100.translations: #override \ ! <Key>Home: string("[1~") \n\ ! <Key>Insert: string("[2~") \n\ ! <Key>BackSpace: string("[3~") \n\ ! <Key>End: string("[4~") !============================================================================= ! xterm defaults from OMS !============================================================================= ! ! !# In the scrollbar we map buttons 5 & 4 to 1 and 2 otherwise, core dump !# This will move proportionnaly to cursor position but we dont know how to !# program the same exact behavior as in the text widget. XTerm.vt100.Scrollbar.translations: #override\n\ <Btn5Down>: StartScroll(Forward)\n\ <Btn4Down>: StartScroll(Backward)\n\ XTerm.vt100.translations: #override\n\ Shift<Btn4Down>,<Btn4Up>:scroll-back(1,line)\n\ Shift<Btn5Down>,<Btn5Up>:scroll-forw(1,line)\n\ Ctrl<Btn4Down>,<Btn4Up>:scroll-back(1,page)\n\ Ctrl<Btn5Down>,<Btn5Up>:scroll-forw(1,page)\n\ <Btn4Down>,<Btn4Up>:scroll-back(1,halfpage)\n\ <Btn5Down>,<Btn5Up>:scroll-forw(1,halfpage)\n\ ! xterm (and friends) XTerm*highlightSelection: true ! Uncomment this to use color for the bold attribute XTerm*VT100*colorBDMode: on XTerm*VT100*colorBD: blue ! Uncomment this to use color for underline attribute XTerm.VT100*colorULMode: on XTerm.VT100*underLine: off XTerm*VT100*colorUL: magenta ! Uncomment this to display the scrollbar XTerm*scrollBar: true ! This resource specifies whether or not to ignore the 'alternate screen' ! of applications such as vi. When it is on, these applications will restore ! the contents of the screen when they are exited to what they were before ! they were started. When it is off, the contents of vi will remain on the ! screen after the program is quit. XTerm.VT100.titeInhibit: true ! Uncomment this to turn off color mode in your xterms !XTerm.VT100*colorMode: off XTerm.VT100*dynamicColors: on ! Number of lines of scrollback to save XTerm*saveLines: 1500 xterm*reverseWrap: true !*visualBell: true *visualBell: False *scrollTtyOutput: False *scrollKey: True !XTerm.vt100.Scrollbar.translations: #override\n\ ! <Btn5Down>: StartScroll(Forward)\n\ ! <Btn4Down>: StartScroll(Backward)\n\ xterm*background: LightYellow2 xterm.eightBitInput: true xterm*multiScroll: on xterm*jumpScroll: on xterm*ScrollBar: on xterm*SaveLines: 2000 ! xterm*VisualBell: true xterm.eightBitOutput: true !xterm*font: -adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-1 !xterm*font: -bitstream-terminal-bold-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-1 xterm*font: 10x20 !This Stuff was cut from the top XTerm*Scrollbar*width: 16 XTerm*Scrollbar*height: 16 XTerm*Scrollbar*shadowWidth: 2 XTerm*Scrollbar*borderWidth: 3 XTerm*RightScrollBar: True *Scrollbar*width: 15 *Scrollbar*height: 15 *Scrollbar*shadowWidth: 2 *Scrollbar*borderWidth: 2 *Scrollbar*cursorName: top_left_arrow *Scrollbar*pushThumb: false *Label*shadowWidth: 2 *Label*borderWidth: 2 *shapeStyle: Rectangle *shadowWidth: 2 *SmeBSB*shadowWidth: 2 *Toggle*highlightThickness: 2 *MenuButton*highlightThickness: 2 *Command*highlightThickness: 2 *Panner*shadowThickness: 2 *SimpleMenu*shadowThickness: 2 *topShadowContrast: 20 *bottomShadowContrast: 45 *PushThumb: False ------------------filedelimiter----------------------- please note that I have included the Files in the body of the text to avoid hastle, if the delimiter confuses you you can always mail me for the raw files Owen Date: 07-Jul-01 Time: 14:03:59

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Re: [Alug] Arrrrggg!
by MJ Ray 08 Jul '01

08 Jul '01

Steve Fosdick <fozzy(a)pelvoux.demon.co.uk> writes: > So I have knocked up a very quick and dirty (i.e. second take) MP3 > of this which you can listen to at > http://www.pelvoux.demon.co.uk/alug/argghh.mp3. Have you tried it with cut-ins of blood-curdling horror screams? ;-) -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Arrrrggg!
by MJ Ray 07 Jul '01

07 Jul '01

Earl Brannigan <earl.brannigan(a)lindenhouse.co.uk> writes: > To the tune of Doh Reh Me from The Sound of Music : I dare one of our more musically-inclined members to cut together an mp3 of this... -- MJR

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