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Re: [Alug] initrd, lilo and general weirdness
by David Fairey 30 May '02

30 May '02

> 1st off: Adam:- for some bizarre reason, my box booted > into 2.4.18 this morning, even though 3 reboots still > took it to 2.2.19 last night. I simply have no idea why. > > One question: why do people seem to dislike > initrd.img's? I'm gonna have to compile a kernel > anyway cos I got all sorts of unresolved symbols, and > some of the modules I'd prefer to have compiled in > anyway. Not sure why initrd's are disliked other than maybe speed? Aside: Only yesterday I had to compile and install the latest kernel to get NVIDIA's "non-GPL" kernel to load, but for the chance to run tuxracer faster than 1 frame a second it's worth it! > For some reason, lilo won't let me boot to my second > disk. I have a second HD, with a copy of lilo on it > (from previous installation). I would like the lilo on > hda1 to boot onto hdb1, but for some reason it won't > let me do this this morning (it just ignores me-no errors!) my lilo.conf line for it is: > > other=/dev/hdb1 > label=Redhat > alias=2 I just had this same problem yesterday, the trick was to switch the BIOS disk identifiers over(!) Try this other=/dev/hdb1 label=RedHat alias=2 map-drive=0x81 to=0x80 map-drive=0x80 to=0x81 > -General Weirdness Section- > > Last night, running on my old kernel, I copied the > kernel source from a CD to my HD. While it did this my > Xserver hung up until it had finished. The same > happened when I un-bzipped it. grrr. > > Adam suggested it might be a h/w problem, so I booted > into RH (which can't do *now*, grrr), and quite happily copied 4gigs from one directory to another, > whilst mucking about with xmms, no lock up. Copied > the kernel source from CD to ~/ and that was fine, > unpacked it, fine. > > Anyone else experience this? I had a few problems with a IDE Ultra-2 DMA drive which wouldn't boot after the debian install (halts before INIT), but booting a newer kernel (2.4.17) worked fine. Maybe there's a problem with 2.2.20 and newer ide controllers? I agree myself that Debian rocks! Cheers David.

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LXF Rune Demo
by Glen Tyler 29 May '02

29 May '02

did anyone ever install the Rune demo from LXF December 2001? My son (6 y.o) found a copy of this mag and was keen to try Linux. I loaded RH7.2 onto our machine, but cannot get this game installed. I'd be keen to encourage him to try something other than Windows, so it'd be nice if he could be impressed rather than put off by his first contact. I usually use rpm's as you might guess.... The readme says run the install shell script (with $ sh rune-demo.run ,) which I do. The install script asks first if I want to read the readme, then asks for the install path. If I write $ /home/games where I would probably want it the error message is $ cannot write to /home/games/loki/rune-demo and install stops If I put "/" as the install path then the install appears to start, but nothing happens. I then killed the process after 20 minutes. anyone help? Glen

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Mandrake install problem X missing
by Russell Ward 29 May '02

29 May '02

I have installed Mandrake 8.2 from the magazine cd. All seemed to go well until the X configuration, when it wouldn't stop scrolling down the list of video cards. I eventually turned the machine off (it was late and had taken hours to get that far) Linux now boots, apparently ok, except that 'startx' gives a message: execve failed for /etc/X11/X giving up xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error Does anyone know what to do to put this right? I am new to Linux, so please excuse if I have missed something 'obvious'. Thanks Russell _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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user management tools
by Ricardo Campos 28 May '02

28 May '02

can anyone recommend any user/group management tools? Preferably using gtk/gnome, and available in .deb ;) (I've always used the deadrat one beforehand) TIA Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] glutton for punishment.... (debian)
by Ricardo Campos 27 May '02

27 May '02

> I've just added some stuff to http://www.alug.org.uk/contrib/?TipsTricksAndWorkarounds > YAY!!!!! Another contributor! I was just checking about the nv drivers, since I wasn't sure if the deb way was much different, and whether nv was supported in a separate server package (like S3 is). I'm hoping to scp some of the packages from one machine to the new one. In the meantime, I can complain all about it on IRC tonight (haa haa). Now all I have to do is figure out the partitioning and mounting... ick. Do people think it's worth having /usr/ on a separate partition? I already have /home/ on a different one (so I can chown it if I change distro-which is exactly what I'm doing). -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Licensing for possibly orphaned Deb
by Alexis Lee 27 May '02

27 May '02

I've always had a sig generator, but until recently it was raw homebrew stuff. Then I found the Signify package, but it didn't do quite what I wanted, so I hacked another feature into it. I emailed the author to tell him about the change, but he didn't respond. The other thing is that the package is public domain, and I'd rather have my work under a license. My understanding of public domain is that anyone can do anything they want with it, including add their own license to it. So, although I realise this is untenably rude if the author is still out there, I'm considering GPL'ing and adopting the package. Is this legal, first of all? Am I breaking the 'all linked code must be GPL' in reverse? I don't think I am, because his code will be available more freely than GPL. Second, what criteria need to be met for a package to be orphaned? Bear in mind I've only just started USING Debian, let alone packaging, so all advice and webpages welcome. Alexis -- Failure- When your best just isn't good enough. For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. - H L Mencken

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Re: [Alug] glutton for punishment.... (debian)
by Ricardo Campos 27 May '02

27 May '02

> I avoid the stock 2.4.* kernels (but use the kernel-source-) because I'm > not a fan of initrd, and I prefer the serious stuff compiled-in rather > than as modules. make-kpkg is well worth using. I remember compiling from source a while back, and not using a ramdisk. The system wasn't a great fan of that... It would hang indefinitely if I tried to copy large files... yuk. Still, this time I'll have a dmesg from a 2.4.9 kernel to use as a guide. Anyone know which x package a geforce2mx videocard (usually nv driver)will need? (Seeing as it will probably need to be gotten manually). Also, is there a virtual package for gnome? i.e. to set up a whole gnome desktop, without individually d/l loadsa different packages. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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glutton for punishment.... (debian)
by Ricardo Campos 27 May '02

27 May '02

I have decided to completely remove Windows from my machine and install Debian. (yay). Problem: I need a 2.4.x kernel to support my hardware (USB stuff, I also like iptables). I noticed that there is a kernel-image-2.4.18-k7 package, although I'm not sure whether to just d/l the source and use make-kpkg. Anyone have any hints? -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 27 May '02

27 May '02

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [Alug] OKIOFFICE 84
by MJ Ray 26 May '02

26 May '02

> Oh dear, this does pose a problem. Well tried the generic PCL and PS no > luck, then tried oki4w still no luck. This could be the deciding point of > not using Linux as my desktop :( I will plod on trying to find a solution, > which may be hard as a newbie. Any thoughts guys please shout, and no one > say buy a new printer, it ain't a possibility. Cheers for your time Mark. I assume it's too late to return the thing as "not fit for purpose" or some such? I see you're already active on the linuxprinting.org lists. I guess you probably checked cups.org and found no drivers available there either. Are you able to see on the device or in the manuals if the printer part is the same as any other standalone printer? What bad output did you get with your tests? If no output, are you sure it's actually communicating with the printer? Worst case scenario, does anyone know if it's possible to talk to this thing via a Windows system? It's a shame, but I'd hate to see it stop you using GNU/Linux at all. Actually, it's not a shame: it's a bloody nuisance. You should be very very angry about these devices. It's not like we're short of printer protocols. -- MJR

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