March 2004 - main

there's no place 127.0.0.1!
by Richard Bensley 06 Mar '04

06 Mar '04

Hey all, I would just like to say thanks for all the great support and responses I got a while back when I first joined you guys. Thanks especially to Wayne Stallwood for sending me a copy of Gentoo, which indcued much stress, but I kept going. I ahve finally found a place to truly call 127.0.0.1, in the form of "No S**t Knoppix". Thanks again, and I hope to meet some of you at the next Norwich meeting. Richard.

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Announce digest, Vol 3 #5 - 1 msg
by announce-request＠lists.alug.org.uk 06 Mar '04

06 Mar '04

Send Announce mailing list submissions to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to announce-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at announce-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Announce digest..." --------------.--------------------------------------------.------------ alug-announce | Newsletter of the Anglian Linux User Group | Weekly(ish) --------------'--------------------------------------------'------------ ** Please send articles for this letter to announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk ** *** Please send replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk, not announce... *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Today's Topics: 1. Norwich evening meeting: 11th March 2004 (Syd Hancock) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Syd Hancock <syd(a)toufol.com> To: alug <main(a)lists.alug.org.uk> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:30:34 +0000 Cc: announce <announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk> Subject: [Alug Announce]Norwich evening meeting: 11th March 2004 The monthly Norwich 'second thursday' evening social meet will take=20 place next week, 11th March from 8 pm in the 'City Gate' pub,=20 Dereham Road.=20 =46ull address, photo, link to map etc here: http://www.norwichpubs.info/norwichpubs/pubpages/citygate.htm If you have not attended one of these meets before, they are=20 informal and unstructured and general chat covers many topics as=20 well as the obvious linux-related stuff. There may or may not be a=20 penguin on the table :-) =3D=3D=3D directions etc =3D=3D=3D The City Gate pub is just off the inner ring road at the junction of=20 Grapes Hill and Barn Road. Dereham Road is the A1074 - take the Costessey junction on the A47=20 if coming from west of Norwich. Otherwise, when going clockwise around the inner ring road, Dereham=20 road is the left turn at the traffic lights at the bottom of Grapes=20 Hill (but see parking info below). There is a very large Cane Furniture shop on the corner and this is=20 probably the best landmark from either direction. The pub, which=20 has a large glass frontage (see link to picture above), is next to=20 the cane furniture shop. There is ample parking nearby, including possible free parking on=20 the forecourt of a wine warehouse next to the pub or on side roads=20 off Dereham Road.=20 There is also Pay-and-Display parking ( =A31.40 for the evening) on=20 the other side of the ring road off St Swithin's road. Coming down=20 Grapes Hill turn right at the lights (St Benedict's Street) and=20 then left into the entrance to the car park which is behind=20 Toys-R-Us. Syd --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce End of Announce Digest

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usb flash drive
by Jenny Hopkins 05 Mar '04

05 Mar '04

Hi, has anyone had any luck with the little flash usb drives and linux? I'm thinking of getting one to make carrying work from here to home and back easier. Thanks, Jen ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

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kernel 2.6
by bjsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 05 Mar '04

05 Mar '04

I normally compile my own kernels but I've not had so much trouble as I'm having with 2.6.2 and 2.6.0 before it. I'm running Debian Sarge (Testing). When starting to boot I see 'bios data check successful' then there is a pause of two minutes before the boot continues. In the log I see 'No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled'. In my config I have: # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y # CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD is not set CONFIG_OBSOLETE_MODPARM=y CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y CONFIG_KMOD=y Anyone else experiencing problems with this kernel? Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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apt-get question
by Nick Heppleston 05 Mar '04

05 Mar '04

I read some time ago in a Linux Mag article that it was possible to filter certain packages out in apt-get upgrade, specifically an upgrade to the kernel. I'm looking to do just that but as usual, I can't find the magazine or any reference on the 'net. So, does anyone here have any experience of filtering out certain packages, for example: kernel*, apache* etc.. So that upgrades to the kernel and apache are not applied, while all other upgrades are. I'm presuming its some configuration option somewhere in /etc/apt... Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Regards, Nick -- Nick Heppleston 07989 581766 | nickheppleston(a)gmx.co.uk

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RE: [ALUG] Linux Newbie Book
by Jenny Hopkins 03 Mar '04

03 Mar '04

Nick Daniels wrote: > They all ask me the same question . Where can I find a > basic book on using Linux? > Can anyone reccomend one please? > P.S. I promise never to ask about parallel port modems again. > Regards Hi Nick, "Running Linux" by O'Reilly is an excellent first book. Jen (parallel port modem expert extraordinaire :-)) ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

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Elliott 803B (pre-Linux)
by Christopher Dawkins 03 Mar '04

03 Mar '04

> Myself (BJ), John (with homemade biscuits, thanks) MJR, Adam, Kirty, Brett, > Peter Onion (with very interesting emulator of a very old mainframe... > something begining with E 800 which had very cool graphics and noises). > Elliott 803. Here is a picture of the machine I used to use when I was > at school. http://www.g6lvb.com/803.htm > More pictures at http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jacksmth/ell803.htm > including a shot of the Calcomp 565 plotter Ah, these are names I recognise. An emulation of the 803, or just of the Calcomp plotter? Sounds exciting anyway: I'm most interested. If it might compile on FreeBSD and run in KDE? I have here various 803B parts, in particular a flexowriter and a Creed teleprinter that might soon have to go for scrap unless someone can find a good home. Not working, but not rusty - could work given a lot of TLC. All the bins around our Computer Centre are Elliot paper tape bins. I have core planes on my desk. There's not many other places you can point and say "There's a bit ... ". -- Christopher Dawkins, Felsted School, Dunmow, Essex CM6 3JG 01371-822698, mobile 07816 821659 cchd(a)felsted.essex.sch.uk

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Flexbackup
by bjsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 03 Mar '04

03 Mar '04

I discovered, a few weeks ago, a backup script called Flexbackup which I rather like. I can use it to backup a remote machine via ssh. Once ssh is setup to do a password-less login Flexbackup can do the rest. What it doesn't provide is an option to restore to a remote machine. Is there a way of retrieving a file or files from a tape on the local machine, using Afio, and passing it across directly to the remote machine via ssh rather than restoring locally and copying across? Any technical gems gratefully received. Barry Samuels http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk The Unofficial Guide to Great Britain

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Linux Newbie Book
by Nick Daniels 03 Mar '04

03 Mar '04

Hi I have been installing Linux f.o.c. for a number of people at their request, most of these people are just home computer users who are fed up with M$ , viruses, etc They only wish to use their computer for office, internet, Mp3s etc. and have little or no knowledge of computing They all ask me the same question . Where can I find a basic book on using Linux? Can anyone reccomend one please? P.S. I promise never to ask about parallel port modems again. Regards Nick Daniels

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Re: [ALUG] OT: e-mail accounts
by Tristan Scott 03 Mar '04

03 Mar '04

IanBell wrote: > On Thursday 26 Feb 2004 9:55 pm, Tristan Scott wrote: > >>MJ Ray wrote: >> >>>On 2004-02-15 10:27:57 +0000 Richard Lewis <richard.lewis(a)uea.ac.uk> > > wrote: > >>>>wandering if anyone knew of anyone who provides free e-mail accounts >>>>that would work well with a normal mail client (like KMail, Evolution >>>>etc.) >> >>Ive had no problems with geek.com, plus you get an email @geek.com, whoohoo >>anyway, their web mail client allows you to check up to 5 pop accounts >>too, which is cool (and handy when in weird places and unable to simply >>telnet). There was rumblings about having to pay to keep your account >>months ago, but my rarely-accessed 3 year old account's still there, and >>working. >> > > > Just been there and tried to sign in. I got the following message: > > Due to a business decision, Geek.com is no longer offering Geek.com e-mail > addresses. We apologise if this causes any distress. > > Ian > > oh. well, that explains why mine's still working i guess.

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