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Re: Meetings, Talks, Demonstrations and Kit
by Elisabeth 30 Jun '04

30 Jun '04

>From: Kirsten Naylor <wildduck(a)wildduck.org.uk> > >I can just about manage apt-get update and apt-get upgrade but need my >hand held quite a bit. So I want to know how to manage my debian >installation so that if quinophex vanished I would not be stuck. Also >knowing how to build kernels would be fun. AOL (except the bit about quinophex). Plus I'd be interested in audio-editing demos. I might be able to persuade two of the local musogeeks to demo what they've set up. Eli(sabeth)

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Debugging Gnome Problems
by Keith Watson 29 Jun '04

29 Jun '04

After running apt-get update on my Debian install last night (actually I used apt-zip but it's the same thing) I now find that gnome 2.4 won't start (it was working fine before). dmesg (or alt-f9) doesn't seem to show anything untoward except for some gconfd messages saying gnome is shutting down. Does anyone know if/where gnome keeps its own run logs so I can get a clue why it's throwing a wobbler? I tried the www.gnome.org site but it's definitely an information overload situation when looking for clues to this. Google wasn't much help either. Regards, Keith ____________ Live life as life lives itself. Zen Proverb

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RE: [ALUG] Norwich meeting Sunday 27 June
by Keith Watson 29 Jun '04

29 Jun '04

I'm going to try and get along to this one. If it's of interest I have a copy of Knoppix 3.4 (4-May-04 version) that I will bring along if anyone wants a copy. It's the one with the 2.6 kernel (there's also a 17-May-04 version but I haven't got round to downloading that yet). If anyone's bringing along a working CD burner you can run off a copy (I'll bring some blank CDs as well). I'm also in the process of downloading a copy of the Vidalinux Desktop OS beta <http://gentoo.vidalinux.com/?q=node/view/68> as we speak and will bring that along also (I know there's some gentoo fans out there :o) ). Also I still have some Linux PC badges left; 1 x Tux <http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/trivia/#pid4235>, 4 x powered by Linux <http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/trivia/#pid4236> and 8 x Debian <http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/trivia/#pid4238> all at 50p (plus an optional donation to AFFS) See you there? Regards, Keith ____________ CREDITOR, n. One of a tribe of savages dwelling beyond the Financial Straits and dreaded for their desolating incursions. - Ambrose Bierce - The Devil's Dictionary > -----Original Message----- > From: main-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk > [mailto:main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk]On Behalf Of Elisabeth > Sent: 20 June 2004 11:43 > To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > Subject: [ALUG] Norwich meeting Sunday 27 June > > > ALUG meeting on Sunday 27 June 2004, 14:00 > Common Room, Nelson Court, UEA > > Campus map is at http://www.uea.ac.uk/campus_2004.pdf > > There is a carpark charge of £1, or you could park outside > the campus, or get > a lift from me. > > > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! >

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Logo idea
by MJ Ray 29 Jun '04

29 Jun '04

As you may know, the original logo artwork went missing a while ago and we've been using a hasty mockup since. Keith has produced some redesigns which have been used on stickers etc. I've just had an idea for a cool logo: Tux, wearing armour, riding an armoured GNU, carrying a pennant that says GNU/Linux. Sort of like http://thetvroom.com/p-itv-1-anglia-past-a.shtml Can anyone produce this? -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and possibly not of any group I know. Please http://remember.to/edit_messages on lists to be sure I read http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ gopher://g.towers.org.uk/ slef(a)jabber.at Creative copyleft computing services via http://www.ttllp.co.uk/

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RE: [ALUG] Meetings, Talks, Demonstrations and Kit
by David Reynolds 29 Jun '04

29 Jun '04

Hi, >Do we want a full from scratch to desktop linux install demonstration? >If so, which distribution? Certainly we have quite a few debian >developers in the group, maybe we should go right through an install >from the beginning to having X running, with KDE/Gnome/XFCE4? Do we >want a demonstration on reuse of old kit for small servers, samba, >LDAP, HTTP, FTP, etc? How about someone talking on how to give talks, >maybe that'd be useful? Maybe demonstrations of what other Free >operating systems can do? One of the more complex distros installed from scratch to desktop would be interesting - Debian, Gentoo even FreeBSD. >Do people want to know about specific topics, like 3d, DVB, graphics, >DTP, Office applications? Without a starting point we'll never get >any talks written. As someone else said somewhere, if someone could give some useful pointers on howto get started on Blender, that would be marvellous! >Do we actually want talks, or a quick guide on the website for how >things work? should we be using the ALUG wiki more? should there be >more technical documentation/recommendations available from the site? All of these sound good. Talks backed up with the salient points on the website would seem like a good way to go - to give people somewhere to go for reference after the talk. Cheers David -- David Reynolds david(a)reynoldsfamily.org.uk

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Syleham Meeting August 22nd 2004
by John Woodard 29 Jun '04

29 Jun '04

After discussions last night on irc and this list I can confirm that the next meeting at Syleham has been booked and confirmed for Sunday 22nd August 2:00pm onwards. Syleham is an ideal venue for bringing kit that needs fixing or for demos to be held. Questions, requests or suggestions to this list and we will see if we can accommodate. There were some suggestions regarding a barbeque if you want that or anything else to happen make comments here. Cheers, BJ

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RE: [ALUG] Meetings, Talks, Demonstrations and Kit
by Jenny Hopkins 29 Jun '04

29 Jun '04

> So, maybe it's time to find out what people want out of the group? > Well, for me, when i joined ALUG I knew absolutely nothing about linux. I was extremely grateful for any help, practical or verbal, at meetings. I enjoyed meeting people. I always took broken kit that needed a kernel upgrade or the modem mending or something. I can imagine other newcomers to the linux world would benefit from the same. It's lack of time that prevents me going to meetings nowadays...weekends fly by soooooo quickly. When i do turn up to them, though, I personally prefer a less organised kind of meeting, where one wanders around and chats or tinkers with a broken thing or whatever. Jen ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

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Suse disappointment...
by Robert Frusher 28 Jun '04

28 Jun '04

Not really a question, but a little insight. I am an avid Slackware Linux user, but on seeing Suse 9.1 available for download I thought I would give it a go. The install is flawless, with its auto-configuration, although I see nothing wrong with Slackwares curses install. A little while later it was installed. I couldnt get grub boot loader to play nicely with XP so it went in the MBR. I reboot and this is the disappointment... it is REALLY slow, granted nice, but nothing really new. I have a pretty good spec machine and Slack flies compared with Suse. DMA was on but it just seemed to take forever to boot, and sluggish when it gets there. Do you reckon it was the new kernel? I tried 2.6 with Slack and it seemed even faster. SO on seeing 10.0 Slackware out I got rid of Suse, and am back at home. Rob

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USB camera problem
by Graham 28 Jun '04

28 Jun '04

I have two SuSE 9.1 setups; one on a desktop and the other a laptop. The laptop can see my Canon IXUS camera; the desktop can't, though it used to be able to last week on 9.0 before I installed the new version of the OS. USB printer is fine. Does anyone know how to debug this part of the system? -- GT

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RE: [ALUG] Booting multiple Linux versions
by Keith Watson 28 Jun '04

28 Jun '04

ooohhh!!! > -----Original Message----- > From: main-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk > [mailto:main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk]On Behalf Of Dennis Dryden > Sent: 27 June 2004 03:54 > To: alug > Subject: RE: [ALUG] Booting multiple Linux versions > > > On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 12:48, Keith Watson wrote: > > I used to use lilo for this but then switched to grub. You > don't have > > the option of pretty graphics on the menu... > > You can have pretty graphics for the menu background with grub :) > Good guide: > http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/ > Also remember to change the menu font colours or reading the > options may > become impossible. > > Dennis > > > _______________________________________________ > main(a)lists.alug.org.uk > http://www.alug.org.uk/ > http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main > Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! >

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