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Help me to help someone!
by ted.harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 07 Jul '07

07 Jul '07

Hi Folks, There's a thread on the Zen Support Forum, Linux Division, with title "Setting screen res in Ubuntu 7.04". The start of the thread is at http://forum.zensupport.co.uk/thread/27097.aspx The topic has somewhat moved on from that, and the OP (Ken Odlum)'s problem is now that, using Ubuntu, while he apparently has two hard disks, one of which he can use normally, he can only read from the other and not write to it. This problem is first mentioned at http://forum.zensupport.co.uk/27097/27130/permalink/ShowThread.aspx#27130 and followed up at http://forum.zensupport.co.uk/27097/27151/permalink/ShowThread.aspx#27151 I ("eelman") intervened acouple of posts later, with suggestions 'cat /etc/fstab' etc. It seems he's dome this, and now http://forum.zensupport.co.uk/27097/27219/permalink/ShowThread.aspx#27219 he says "If I go to Places Computer it shows the other hard drive and I can mount it and read or copy from it OK" despite the fact that it's not in /etc/fstab. The only thing I can think of is that when he does that, whetever Ubuntu does behind the scenes amounts to an explicit mount -t ... /dev/hdb* /... command. But, not having any Ubuntu eperience, I simply don't know. If anyone can make a useful suggestio I could pass on, or better still is on the Zen Support Forum and can intervene directly, this would be welcome. The guy is a relatively recent convert to Linux, and I wouldn't like his faith to be compromised! Best wishes to all, Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <ted.harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 04-Jul-07 Time: 23:01:47 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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Re: [ALUG] Help me to help someone!
by ted.harding＠nessie.mcc.ac.uk 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

Thanks, Mark -- interesting that you;ve had the same experience. The only issue (see end of you first para) is that he can read from it, but not write to it. On 05-Jul-07 08:37:59, Mark Reid wrote: > Dear Ted > > This is an interesting one. As you correctly point out, Linux has > not recognised hdb when it was installed for whatever reason that > may have been. I must say that I had exactly the same problem when > I first used Ubuntu a year ago. He can access it through Nautilus > which suggests that even though it is not registered on startup, > it's recognised as being there much in the way that removable > drive l would be when it's plugged in. That's why he can mount it > using the mount command in Nautilus and then read and write to it. > > What should solve the problem is if he adds the hdb to the fstab after > he has backed the old one up, which is what I did and what I think is > what you suggested and he hasn't done yet. The issue there being the UID identification, rather then the traditional "/dev/hdb*". Wayne made a suggestion for finding out what the UID code ought to be. Any further comments from anyone would be most welcome! > > An easier way for a beginner to do this is to open a root terminal > through the menu, clicking on Accessories (or System Tools ) > Root > Terminal and entering the command gedit which will get him to the gui > based editor as root user. I've only recently upgraded to Edgy myself > and what's new in the way Ubuntu now does fstab entries is putting in a > UUID value which it didn't in pervious distros. In entering values > for hdb manually, I'm not sure whether absence of a UUID would make any > difference to the operation of fstab. > > Regards > > Mark > > (Ted Harding) wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> There's a thread on the Zen Support Forum, Linux Division, >> with title "Setting screen res in Ubuntu 7.04". The start >> of the thread is at >> >> http://forum.zensupport.co.uk/thread/27097.aspx >> >> The topic has somewhat moved on from that, and the OP (Ken >> Odlum)'s problem is now that, using Ubuntu, while he apparently >> has two hard disks, one of which he can use normally, he can >> only read from the other and not write to it. This problem >> is first mentioned at >> >> http://forum.zensupport.co.uk/27097/27130/permalink/ShowThread.aspx#271 >> 30 >> >> and followed up at >> >> http://forum.zensupport.co.uk/27097/27151/permalink/ShowThread.aspx#271 >> 51 >> >> I ("eelman") intervened acouple of posts later, with suggestions >> 'cat /etc/fstab' etc. It seems he's dome this, and now >> >> http://forum.zensupport.co.uk/27097/27219/permalink/ShowThread.aspx#272 >> 19 >> >> he says "If I go to Places Computer it shows the other hard drive >> and I can mount it and read or copy from it OK" despite the fact >> that it's not in /etc/fstab. >> >> The only thing I can think of is that when he does that, whetever >> Ubuntu does behind the scenes amounts to an explicit >> >> mount -t ... /dev/hdb* /... >> >> command. But, not having any Ubuntu eperience, I simply don't know. >> >> If anyone can make a useful suggestio I could pass on, or better >> still is on the Zen Support Forum and can intervene directly, this >> would be welcome. The guy is a relatively recent convert to Linux, >> and I wouldn't like his faith to be compromised! >> >> Best wishes to all, >> Ted. >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <ted.harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> >> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 >> Date: 04-Jul-07 Time: 23:01:47 >> ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> main(a)lists.alug.org.uk >> http://www.alug.org.uk/ >> http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main >> Unsubscribe? See message headers or the web site above! >> >> > > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <ted.harding(a)nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 05-Jul-07 Time: 15:15:00 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------

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evolution, squirrelmail and addressbook
by Jenny Hopkins 05 Jul '07

05 Jul '07

Hullo there, Is it possible to export a contacts database in evolution in a format that can then be imported into squirrelmail? Evolution seem only to offer VCard export. Squirrelmail doesn't seem to offer any mass import at all (on debian anyway), but I can see the address file is a text file with the fields separated with a |. It would be possible to write a bit of code that does this, but I'm sure someone has done it already :) Thanks, Jenny

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kubuntu apt-get not installed
by elc 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

kubuntu apt-get not installed. Currently running Feisty Fawn 7.04 On booting up, my boot-up flash screen comes up. About halfway thru boot-up the flash screen chages to text (terminal or Bash Screen ?), where I can see the various aspects of the boot-up loading. It gets to a point "the program 'apt-get' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: apt-get install apt When I type 'apt-get install apt', I get Bash: apt-get command not found, - and then the next line puts me at my root home directory with a flashing curser ready for my input. I've also tried sudo apt-get install apt and the results are the same. What I am trying to get to is my normal GUI or desktop. Your help please - elc

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protecting children on linux
by Richard Bensley 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

Good afternoon everyone. The bane of my existence from working in IT are my co-workers. I am sure many of can relate to questions such as "Which broadband supplier shall I use?", or "My dell is full of shit, and spyware, and viruses after the kids downloaded MSN". So long as they have the original restore CD's I don't mind doing it for a small fee, outside of working hours. I have had several cases also where I have been recommending and installing Open Source goodies like Firefox, and OpenOffice, and of course the results are always good! At some point I want to try to and convince a co-worker to let me put something like Ubuntu on their machine. Whilst they wont need some bloated Anti Virus suite, said suites also contain tools to help protect their kids from the darker side of the Internet. What does Linux offer to help censor and protect children from what the Internet has to offer? Richard

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Re: [ALUG] UK VoIP Providers
by samwise 29 Jun '07

29 Jun '07

On 28/06/07, Wayne Stallwood <ALUGlist(a)digimatic.co.uk> wrote: > Hey there Peter, did you mean to post this to the list ? Yes. *blush* On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 11:33 +0100, samwise wrote: > On 28/06/07, Wayne Stallwood <ALUGlist(a)digimatic.co.uk> wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 10:36 +0100, Ben Francis wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm thinking of buying the Grandstream BT-101 from them for £45 > > > (http://www.sipgate.co.uk/voipshop/grandstream/grandstream_bt-101) but > > > until the expenses claim goes through I'll be playing with softphones. > > > > > Having tried both and despite it being circa £20 more I would still > > recommend the Aastra. > > I tried a Grandstream GXP-2000 out - the build quality of the PSU and > cable was particularly poor. The phone itself was alright. Biggest > problem with it that I found was that it wasn't possible to dial > alphanumeric SIP URIs without prior configuration from a PC. Which > was quite rubbish, I thought! Oh, and it wouldn't work with my usual > STUN server so I had to try another one ... > > If you can afford it, I've generally found the Linksys / Cisco gear to > be very feature-rich and well-built. Bit pricey, tho. > > Peter.

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UK VoIP Providers
by Ben Francis 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

Hi all, Does anyone have recommendations of UK based VoIP providers? I'm looking for a service with the following kinds of features: * Standards based (SIP) * A PSTN phone number pointing at my SIP account (preferably with a choosable area code) * Outward calls to PSTN at good rates (national, international and mobile) * Dynamic call forwarding (e.g. forward to my mobile at certain times or after a certain number of rings) * Voicemail (preferably with email alerts) I'm really very attracted to Vonage (http://vonage.com) but there's one thing that bothers me. If you want a "softphone" you have to pay for their proprietary service at extra cost and they don't support third party (i.e. open source) alternatives. This rules out using my own SIP client or installing an open source PBX (Asterisk) in the future. They say they're looking at opening up the service but they can't give a timescale. Thanks! Ben -- Ben Francis http://tola.me.uk

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Blender Tutorial
by Richard Bensley 28 Jun '07

28 Jun '07

Good Morning everyone, On the 14Th of July I will be holding an introductory course to the opensource 3D application, Blender. If you are interested then please respond here so I can get a good idea about the numbers and suitable locations (will be somewhere in Norwich). On the following Monday, the 16Th of July, I will be giving a brief rundown of the same session at the IPLUG meeting for those that can't make the trip to Norwich (providing Mr Bower's car is fixed :D ). Currently I am working on a 4 hour(ish) lesson plan. I will be giving a introduction to the basics of blender, an intro to polygon modelling, and finally some animation. After that I wouldn't mind showing off some fluids, dynamics, and particles, as well as showing off some of the sculpting, compositing, video editing, and painting tools. If there is anything you guys would like to learn about in Blender or in 3D in general I am open to suggestions as to what else you would like to achieve on that day. Other linux based CGI apps I am (reasonably) familiar with and able to answer some basic questions on include: Maya, Softimage, Nuke, Wings3D, Gimp, Houdini, and Shake. I am doing this first of all as a test. Depending on the success on the event both in my ability to teach, and people able to attend may mean I do a few more maybe at the UEA, but one step at a time! Cheers Richard

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kubuntu apt-get not installed
by elc 27 Jun '07

27 Jun '07

No - still unable to gain entry. I'm now about to do major surgery, overinstall or re-install, since I have nothing to lose. However, many thanks for trying to resolve my probs. ps Is there a linux equivalent of Thunderbird Portable ? elc Ten wrote > Hi - did you get your issues sorted? > > My thinking was that your problem might be related to several flavours of > weirdness with ubuntu upgrades - where you can get either a munged fstab > through the upgrade conversion or a strange problem with the system trying to > use the wrong root partition after a kernel upgrade. > > Hope you did, anyway. > > Cheers.

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Re: [ALUG] IPLUG meetings
by samwise 26 Jun '07

26 Jun '07

> So, now there are 3 facebook groups for ALUG. I don't get to say this > very often, so excuse me: UTFS! Gah, I did! I searched the mailing list archives and the wiki for a mention of Facebook and then Facebook for "anglian linux user group" and got nothing! *sigh* Are there any other ALUG things out there being played with we might want to get in on? > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2352779871 > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2381613902 > > Feel free to merge yours with either of those ;) I've closed mine now... are we going to standardise on one of these two? I have no idea which one came first and they both seem to have around the same number of members, tho the first one is the only one publically searchable ... Peter.

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