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Re: [ALUG] Anybody else ever tried fast-user-switching as context-switching?
by Ruth Bygrave 21 Jun '07

21 Jun '07

On 20 Jun 2007, at 13:53, Richard Bensley wrote: > I have been a bit busy, so I am just scanning the list, but yes you > would find a lot better help in general with Linux guys and gals, and > since OSX is UNIX, you will find many including myself are mac users. Yes! I feel so validated! > I was surprised to find out MUGs even existed! My immediate reaction had been "I am now on the Mac platform, I need to find out where the Mac users are". But I kept falling over the advocacy-zealotry and the fact that everybody within 60 miles or so of me seemed to be Mac-ghetto rather than my (admittedly-untypical) switch pattern of "20 years Windows followed by crash-and-burn Linux switch-unswitch, followed by more Windows, followed by: what I actually want is Gorgeous Consumer Stuff and consistent UI to feed the dumb user and Unix to feed the beginner geekery. I shall get a Mac" I hasten to add that I did not crash-and-burn on Linux because I think it's invariably a Worse Operating System for Everyone than the others, but because I switched too early and far too fast with no advice or local support, and unswitched. Am currently giving advice on LJ to a Mac user thinking of Linux dual-boot that she will almost certainly find it an unrewarding experience because dual-boot works for almost nobody (I'm fairly sure that this is likely to be the case for Macintel as well, but have no actual data as my box is G4), and that she'd have far more luck buying a cheap secondhand laptop for Linux 'play' and 'switching sideways' so that she can retreat to the user-comfort-zone between fits of geek-fu. > Our meetings are the second Thursday of every month int he Reindeer > Pub > (dereham road) in norwich, but there is also an Ipswich group which > meet > every 3rd Monday I think?!? But of course you and Adrian would be most > welcome, conversations and topics (as you have proven) are vast! Went to the Ips group this week, and noticed that even though I couldn't get any help with the problem I _thought_ I was going for, the group is a far better fit for me personally than ghetto-Mac. May consider coming to the Norwich group for social reasons if I haven't frightened you off yet :-) Regards, Ruth

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clamav on etch and cpu usage
by Jenny Hopkins 21 Jun '07

21 Jun '07

Hullo there, Our server is running nearly constantly at 100% cpu usage, the culprit being clamscan. Server is running debian stable, so clamav version is 0.90.1-2 I see a bug reported here http://bugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425661 which seems to be for a later version so there's not much point in upgrading clamav. Has anyone else had similar? Should I 'downgrade'? Thanks, Jenny

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IPLUG meetings
by Yvonne Everett 21 Jun '07

21 Jun '07

Hello Any reason why the Ipswich Meeting Notes havent been updated for the last couple of months on the ALUG Wiki? Rgds -- Yvonne Everett Email: ye103910(a)googlemail.com

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Don't suppose any others of you have got a Toppy PVR, have you?
by Ruth Bygrave 21 Jun '07

21 Jun '07

Ruth (...I love my Toppy, except when the UI drives me batshit insane...) B

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Linux and Astronomy
by Yvonne Everett 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

Hello Those astronomy fans out there... does anyone have a recommendation for a replacment to the software Celestron Registax? I have a NexImage and the software enclosed with it is for Windows. If anyone has any experience of this type of webcam through Linux and what they've used, I'd be interested to hear your comments/results... Thanks and regards -- Yvonne Everett Email: ye103910(a)googlemail.com

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LJ
by Ruth Bygrave 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

Aha! Enlightenment moment (again). Instead of running about two-and-a- half blogs, I should roll everything into one and experiment with 'custom friends groups' until I get the behaviour I want: mundane friends and relatives don't see the not-personal stuff, Unix geeks don't see the dumb-user Mac stuff (unless they want to), only the creative-writers I'm in touch with see the SF-fan and writing stuff, and people can ask to be added if they just, like, like me? Does that make sense? It would have the huge virtue of not running separate user accts to achieve separation, and being able to stay logged-in consistently. But is it reliable/secure? Regards, Ruth

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Anybody else ever tried fast-user-switching as context-switching?
by Ruth Bygrave 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

On both Mac and Windows, Fast User Switching is implemented and used as 'Mum Dad and all the kiddies can now get to their stuff quickly'. Am fairly sure that this is a 'Unix-y thing', though cannot remember if I used to play with it in Linux in my abortive crash-and-burn attempt to switch to Linux in 1999. I started out on the Mac trying to use this as context-switching (it's entirely my machine, I can use it in whatever demented geeky way I like). I found that the 2-3 seconds it took to switch between my main user acct and my creative writing acct effectively put me off using it. The other day, when setting up a blog for my 'Dumb Script Kiddy tries to grow up hobbyist-programmer' stuff, I suddenly realised that the reason it took me 2 or 3 seconds to switch to my creative writing acct was probably because Skype was in the startup items and Skype is a resource hog. Because context-switching between my main user acct and my blog acct (with nothing but mail and news loaded) fairly *flew!* This actually started me thinking of going back to the idea with minimal programs loaded. I asked Adrian if he's ever thought of using FUS as context-switching. "No," he said. He has different contexts: work, social, climbing, &c, but the immediacy of having e-mail immediately available pulling everything together and the fact that you don't see the e-mail coming in from the other acct means that trying to organise it the way I was thinking of, wouldn't work. Have been trying it as 'geek fun', but actually fear Adrian may be right, because the 'oops, in wrong context, e-mail this to the other acct' thing is all too easy to achieve. Would you advise me to keep trying it as a playful geeky thing or get in the habit of having everything on my main acct because of this real-world 'notification' issue that Adrian pointed out? Regards, Ruth

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simple Photo albums
by Venura Mendis 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

I'd like to setup up a simple web photo album on my home machine. A quick look on google found me far too many options and I cant make up my mind. I was wondering if anybody had any opinions on this. my basic requirements are 1) I use my linux box to backup my photos. So something that can build a gallery dynamically from the filesystem without replicating image files 2) very occasional viewing of photos (Im much more likely to use picassaweb if I want to publish pictures to lots of people) 3) be able to upload pictures remotely (preferably bulk upload option) using a web page. Though setting up ftp is perhaps easier Im thinking of playing with Gallery (http://gallery.menalto.com/) but it probably does far more things than I need and might not meet my first req. Ive already got apache,php and mysql running. thoughts?

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Re-Introduction
by J.R.Seago 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

I have now, as evidenced by this email, managed to rejoin the world of those connected to the internet. (Thanks to Mark Ray and the PhoneCoop). I have rejoined ALUG as it was where I started with GNU/Linux. it also has a little more traffic than Highland LUG, see http://www.highland.lug.org.uk/index.html The web-site tells the world that the LUG has "...about 20 members living at locations all over the Highlands", if one considers that it is roughly the area covered by Northern Constabulary, it represents 20>25 members in an area roughly the size of Belgium or about 10,000 square miles that's an average of one member about every 500 square miles! I have signed up to Highland LUG and some of the other Scottish LUGS, but in total they do not seem to produce the volume of traffic that ALUG does! -- J.R. Seago GNU/Linux Registered User No. #219566 http://counter.li.org/ () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail - against microsoft attachments /\

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kubuntu apt-get not installed
by elc 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

ten requested :- root@elc-desktop:~# cat /etc/fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information # # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 # /dev/hda7 -- converted during upgrade to edgy UUID=181919c2-0d4c-41bb-b526-8726cc94c07a / ext2 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 # /dev/hda5 -- converted during upgrade to edgy UUID=CEA6-EEB3 /media/hda5 vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 # /dev/hda6 -- converted during upgrade to edgy UUID=1389-3e5c /media/hda6 vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 # /dev/hda8 -- converted during upgrade to edgy UUID=e2b293e2-7592-4631-9eb7-6764bed4b103 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 usr,noauto 0 0 root@elc-desktop:~# _ and root@elc-desktop:~# blkid /dev/evms/hda5: UUID="CEA6-EEB3" TYPE="vfat" /dev/evms/hda1: UUID="0E1C-1DEB" TYPE="vfat" /dev/evms/hda8: TYPE="swap" UUID="e2b293e2-7592-4631-9eb7-6764bed4b103" /dev/evms/hda7: UUID="181919c2-0d4c-41bb-b526-8726cc94c07a" TYPE="ext2" /dev/evms/hda6: UUID="1389-3E5C" TYPE="vfat" /dev/hda1: UUID="0E1C-1DEB" TYPE="vfat" /dev/hda5: UUID="CEA6-EEB3" TYPE="vfat" /dev/hda6: UUID="1389-3E5C" TYPE="vfat" /dev/hda7: UUID="181919c2-0d4c-41bb-b526-8726cc94c07a" TYPE="ext2" /dev/hda8: TYPE="swap" UUID="e2b293e2-7592-4631-9eb7-6764bed4b103" /dev/mapper/hda5: UUID="CEA6-EEB3" TYPE="vfat" /dev/mapper/hda1: UUID="0E1C-1DEB" TYPE="vfat" /dev/mapper/hda8: TYPE="swap" UUID="e2b293e2-7592-4631-9eb7-6764bed4b103" /dev/mapper/hda6: UUID="1389-3e5c" TYPE="vfat" root@elc-desktop:~# _ elc > On Monday 18 June 2007, ten wrote: > >> > About a week ago I went through the update procedure. I started with >> > Dapper 6.06 (from live CD), updated to Edgy 6.10, then updated to Feisty >> > 7.04. Things worked perfectly until last weekend when I tried to boot up >> > linux and got this result. Would I presume that the live CD 6.06 would >> > not now be of any use since I am 2 upgrades up? >> > >> > > I wonder. Could you post me/the list the output of the following two commands > please? > > cat /etc/fstab > > blkid > > > Cheers :-)

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