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kubuntu apt-get not installed
by elc 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

Tried 'type echo' and got 'echo is a shell built in' Tried also 'which echo' and got '/bin/echo' this doesn't mean anything to me, - hope it means something to you > On 13-Jun-07 08:07:29, Jon Dye wrote: > >> > (Ted Harding) wrote: >> >>> >> On 13-Jun-07 07:02:04, Brett Parker wrote: >>> >>> >> >> > Try "type echo" instead of "which echo" >> > >> > JD >> > > And, now that you point that out, > > type -a echo > > gives you the lot: > > $ type -a echo > echo is a shell builtin > echo is /bin/echo > > $ type -a type > type is a shell builtin > > Which raises an interesting question: If "type -a" can find everything > (including binaries), it must be making implicit reference to a PATH > which presumably is the user's $PATH by default (though neither > "help type" nor "man bash" is explicit about this). You can of course > set a search-path with option "-P" to "type". > > So, since "type" is a shell built-in, it should work for elc whatever > the PATH situation is. Therefore, going back to the "missing" commands, > if elc enters, for instance, > > type -a ls > > and gets: > > $ type -a ls > bash: type: ls: not found > > while "type -aP /bin ls" gives > > $type -aP /bin ls > /bin/ls > > this is presumably a pretty sure-fire diagnostic of PATH problems. > > Best wishes to all, > Ted. > >

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Network printer
by Barrys linux mail 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

Hi Just a request for some information about connecting a network type printer to a windows Xp desktop and a wireless Linux laptop. Thinking of purchasing a Samsung colour laser printer CLP300 that has a network connection on it. I wondered if if set it up in windows how difficult would it be to get my wireless laptop set up to send documents to the printer when the desktop is not in use. The printer states it has Linux driver support. I am using ubuntu 7.04. Any advice? Barry

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Connection loss in Storms
by Nick Daniels 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

Hi I keep loosing my broadband connection during thunderstorms, I am sure this never happened in the previous years. I usually loose it about an hour before the storm appears here, and then for the duration of the storm. Would this be an exchange problem (or is it a totally a silly question) Kind Regards - Nick Daniels

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adding pci=conf1 parameter to boot configuration file
by Venura Mendis 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

Guys, Ive been trying to get audio drivers to work and one of the possible suggestion was to add pci=conf1 to the boot configuration. Apologies for what is probably an obvious question but what file is this and where can I find it. Quick google search revealed several different options. I'm running ubuntu feisty. thanks, Venura

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[ALUG Announce] 3rd Monday Monthly Ipswich Social Meeting : The Milestone, Woodbridge Road
by samwise 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- The monthly "Third Monday" ALUG Ipswich Social Meeting is on next week (Monday 18th June) at 20:00: This week, Mr. Thorpe has agreed to give us a basic tutorial on the GIMP and show us how to do some of the simple image manipulation stuff which can be a bit troublesome if you're not familiar with the interface. It will probably help him, if you can post any questions or whatever now, rather than springing them on him on the night (it's not his day job). Tracey, this is a good opportunity to post that pic you always go on about ... :) I'll start by asking how I combine two A4 scans together without making GIMP freeze for an hour! ;) The Milestone Beer House 5 Woodbridge Road IPSWICH IP4 2EA Tel: 01473 252425 Map/Directions URI: http://maps.google.co.uk/?q=IP4+2EA The Milestone pub is in the centre of Ipswich, near the now-defunct Odeon cinema and not far from The Regent Theatre. There is more information on the venue, including car parking info, on the ALUG wiki: http://www.alug.org.uk/wiki/moin.cgi/Meetings All are welcome, novices and experienced users. Hopefully, it shouldn't be too hard to find the pack, look for those huddled around a laptop! Feel free to ask for further information on the Main ALUG mailing list. Hope to see you there, Peter. ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Re: Monday meet
by Matthew 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

I've managed to get out of my normal other commitment so I hope to be there this Monday. I'm looking forward to a GIMP tutorial, because I find graphics packages - especially the GIMP - completely mystifying. Matthew

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problems locating mesa dependency packages
by Venura Mendis 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

Hi, Ive beeen trying to install graphics drivers for an Epia EX10000 board. Ive been following rather detailed and long instructions from viaarena on building and installing the graphics drivers. As required dependencies it lists VIA DRIMesaLib 6.5.2 and required packages for Ubuntu feisty as mesa_6.5.2.orig.tar.g mesa_6.5.2-3ubuntu7.diff.gz It lists lots of other dependencies (all of which I have found and installed using synaptic). I'm guessing I need to add an extra repository to find these mesa files. Though googling it has turned out several places I can actually download the file, I presume using a package manager to get it is safer. Also Ive downloaded tohe source from the mesa site, it doesnt look like these files are in the tar. Any advice? Thanks, Venura

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[OT] FTGH: Various Socket 370 Intel CPUs
by Jonathan McDowell 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

Apologies for the off topic post, but as people have been talking about rather ancient machines here perhaps this might prove useful to them. I have 3 Socket 370 CPUs looking for homes. If anyone wants one I'll bring it to the Norwich meeting this Thursday, or might be prepared to post them to people if they really can't make it. The CPUs are: Intel Celeron 800MHz, SL4TF, 800/128/100/1.7V Intel PIII 800MHz, SL4MB, 800/256/133/1.7V Intel Celeron 900MHz, SL5MQ, 900/128/100/1.75V All should be working fine, I just don't have a use for them any more and it seems a shame to throw out working kit. J. -- Purple alert! Purple alert! - Holly

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[ALUG Announce] 2nd Thursday Norwich Meet : Reindeer, Dereham Road
by Jonathan McDowell 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- The monthly "Second Thursday" ALUG Norwich Pub Meet is this Thursday, 14th June. It's at the Reindeer pub on the Dereham Road, just opposite the City Gate. People will be there from 8pm-ish, though there may be a few people there earlier. Topics for discussion will no doubt be as varied as ever. The Reindeer has a reasonable selection of beer as well as decent coffee (with biscuits, if you're lucky). Directions to the Reindeer can be found at: http://www.alug.org.uk/venues/reindeer.html Pictures of some of the regulars, and irregulars, and, well, just some pictures of people that might or might not turn up are available from: http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2007-05-ALUG/ http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2006-02-ALUG/ http://the.earth.li/~noodles/stilvoid-alug/mp20050811/ http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2005-01-ALUG-Xmas/ http://www.earth.li/~noodles/Photos/2004-08-ALUG/ Which should hopefully aid those of you wondering who to look out for - the most recent images are from the meet last month. We now have an area reserved for us, so should be easier to find. As you enter through the main door you'll see a small set of steps ahead of you - the area just up those steps and to the left is where we'll be. J. -- I may be cool Beavis, but I | .''`. Debian GNU/Linux Developer can't change the future. | : :' : Happy to accept PGP signed | `. `' or encrypted mail - RSA + | `- DSA keys on the keyservers. ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Python question about classes
by Chris G 11 Jun '07

11 Jun '07

I'm trying to understand (and re-use) some Python code. In general I find Python very easy to understand (one of the reasons I like it) but I'm a bit unclear about one bit of code which is a callback function, it is as follows:- # # # # def cb_prepare(args): request = args["request"] data = request.getData() data["statcatslinks"] = PyblStatcats(request) It doesn't matter that it's a callback function (I can follow how/why it gets called) and I can understand the first two lines. The first line sets 'request' and the second gets the data dictionary from the request object. What I'm not clear about is the last line, PyblStatcats is a class. As I understand it 'PyblStatcats(request)' creates an instance of PyblStatcats and runs its __init__ method, so far so good. But what does 'PyblStatcats(request)' return? It would appear to be a string as it's used to set the value in the data dictionary. However I can't find anywhere in the Python documentation that tells me about this (implicit?) return value. -- Chris Green

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