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kubuntu apt-get not installed
by elc 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

I also entered 'type -a ls' and got 'ls is aliased to 'ls --color=auto' 'ls is /bin/ls' also entered 'type aP /bin ls' gives '$type -aP /bin ls' '/bin/ls' elc

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kubuntu apt-get not installed
by elc 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

At command line I did 'set' and this gave a long listing which might have scrolled off the top of screen. What is showing on screen is no line starting with PATH= , nearest to it is a line 'verbose= no = path' Ted wrote > On 12-Jun-07 22:31:22, elc wrote: > >> > Tried what you suggested Adam, and got 'command not found' for aptitude >> > install apt. >> > Also had 'command not found' for sudo aptitude install apt >> >> Looks to me as though your PATH is empty, so your shell has >> nowhere to look for the commands. >> >> >From you command line, enter: >> >> set >> >> and look down the resulting list for a line that starts >> with "PATH=...." >> >> If you do not find one, then you have an empty PATH and that >> is the problem. On the other hand, if you get a result which >> includes things like >> >> PATH=/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:.... >> >> then you have real problems. In particular, the command 'ls' >> should be in /bin. and therefore found; the command 'man' >> should be in /usr/bin and likewise found. So in that case >> there is something seriously wrong with your installation. >> >> If you have an empty PATH, this means that some initial >> configuration is not taking place when you log in, and we >> can probably help you track that down (there are not a lot >> of possibilities for what could go wrong there). >> >> But if you get a PATH like the above, it's trouble! >> >> ('set', by the way, should work regardless of your PATH >> since it is a shell command and not a binary. On the other >> hand, if your PATH is empty, then 'echo $PATH' will not >> work, since 'echo' is in /bin. Nor will 'env', since it >> is also in /bin)). >> >> Hoping this helps. Let us know what you see! >> >> Ted. >>

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kubuntu apt-get not installed
by elc 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

Did 1) as suggested did '$ which dpkg' and got nothing - just returns to cursor did '$ which wget' and got nothing - just returns to cursor Did 2) '$ wget' and got 'bash: wget: command not found' Didn't do 3), was this reliant on 2) ? you'll need to forgive me I'm a newbie and didn't really understand your instructions, but thanks anyway. > On Tuesday 12 June 2007 23:31:22 elc wrote: > >> > Tried what you suggested Adam, and got 'command not found' for aptitude >> > install apt. >> > Also had 'command not found' for sudo aptitude install apt. >> > In fact I also tried commands ls, man, sudo, and they all returned >> > 'command not found'. >> > >> > Your problem may well be disk errors, but in case you just want to get apt > installed (which will be handy for helping to diagnose other problems) try > this. (Note, however, that if your disk is /very/ broken, this is unlikely to > work.) > > 1) Check dpkg and wget are still available: > $ which dpkg > /usr/bin/dpkg > $ which wget > /usr/bin/wget > > (if dpkg isn't there then, um, well I'm not sure what you'll do) > (if wget is unavailable then you can just use a web browser) > > 2) Download the apt deb: > $ wget > http://www.mirror.ac.uk/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/ap… > > [previous command all on one line] > > 3) install it: > $ sudo dpkg -i apt_0.6.46.4ubuntu10_i386.deb > > And then you should have apt back on your box which will mean you can > (re)install other useful things. e.g.: > > $ sudo apt-get --reinstall install coreutils > > May I also suggest smartmontools? To help diagnose any possible disk errors? > > > Also, you may like to run an fsck (filesystem check; see $ man fsck). The > easiest way to do this is to force one to be scheduled next time you boot. > (fsck is most effective when run in single user mode.) > > $ sudo tune2fs -c 0 -i 30d -T 20070501 > > (This is a bit of a hack so I'd better explain: it makes tune2fs check the > drive on boot every every 30 days ["-i 30d"], tells it not to schedule tests > based on the number of times the drive has been mounted ["-c 0"] and tells it > that the last time it was checked was 1st May 2007 which, assuming your > computer's clock is about right, was more than 30 days ago; see also $ man > tune2fs) > > This will do an fsck next time you boot. > > Cheers, > Richard > > PS. I've just read the rest of this thread more carefully and now my message > seems a bit unhelpful (seeing as how you don't seem to /any/ programs > available). But I've typed it now, so I'm going to send it anyway.

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kubuntu apt-get not installed
by elc 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

Tried 'type echo' and got 'echo is a shell built in' Tried also 'which echo' and got '/bin/echo' this doesn't mean anything to me, - hope it means something to you > On 13-Jun-07 08:07:29, Jon Dye wrote: > >> > (Ted Harding) wrote: >> >>> >> On 13-Jun-07 07:02:04, Brett Parker wrote: >>> >>> >> >> > Try "type echo" instead of "which echo" >> > >> > JD >> > > And, now that you point that out, > > type -a echo > > gives you the lot: > > $ type -a echo > echo is a shell builtin > echo is /bin/echo > > $ type -a type > type is a shell builtin > > Which raises an interesting question: If "type -a" can find everything > (including binaries), it must be making implicit reference to a PATH > which presumably is the user's $PATH by default (though neither > "help type" nor "man bash" is explicit about this). You can of course > set a search-path with option "-P" to "type". > > So, since "type" is a shell built-in, it should work for elc whatever > the PATH situation is. Therefore, going back to the "missing" commands, > if elc enters, for instance, > > type -a ls > > and gets: > > $ type -a ls > bash: type: ls: not found > > while "type -aP /bin ls" gives > > $type -aP /bin ls > /bin/ls > > this is presumably a pretty sure-fire diagnostic of PATH problems. > > Best wishes to all, > Ted. > >

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Network printer
by Barrys linux mail 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

Hi Just a request for some information about connecting a network type printer to a windows Xp desktop and a wireless Linux laptop. Thinking of purchasing a Samsung colour laser printer CLP300 that has a network connection on it. I wondered if if set it up in windows how difficult would it be to get my wireless laptop set up to send documents to the printer when the desktop is not in use. The printer states it has Linux driver support. I am using ubuntu 7.04. Any advice? Barry

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Connection loss in Storms
by Nick Daniels 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

Hi I keep loosing my broadband connection during thunderstorms, I am sure this never happened in the previous years. I usually loose it about an hour before the storm appears here, and then for the duration of the storm. Would this be an exchange problem (or is it a totally a silly question) Kind Regards - Nick Daniels

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adding pci=conf1 parameter to boot configuration file
by Venura Mendis 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

Guys, Ive been trying to get audio drivers to work and one of the possible suggestion was to add pci=conf1 to the boot configuration. Apologies for what is probably an obvious question but what file is this and where can I find it. Quick google search revealed several different options. I'm running ubuntu feisty. thanks, Venura

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[ALUG Announce] 3rd Monday Monthly Ipswich Social Meeting : The Milestone, Woodbridge Road
by samwise 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

ALUG Announce Please send announcements to Announce(a)lists.alug.org.uk Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce ----- The monthly "Third Monday" ALUG Ipswich Social Meeting is on next week (Monday 18th June) at 20:00: This week, Mr. Thorpe has agreed to give us a basic tutorial on the GIMP and show us how to do some of the simple image manipulation stuff which can be a bit troublesome if you're not familiar with the interface. It will probably help him, if you can post any questions or whatever now, rather than springing them on him on the night (it's not his day job). Tracey, this is a good opportunity to post that pic you always go on about ... :) I'll start by asking how I combine two A4 scans together without making GIMP freeze for an hour! ;) The Milestone Beer House 5 Woodbridge Road IPSWICH IP4 2EA Tel: 01473 252425 Map/Directions URI: http://maps.google.co.uk/?q=IP4+2EA The Milestone pub is in the centre of Ipswich, near the now-defunct Odeon cinema and not far from The Regent Theatre. There is more information on the venue, including car parking info, on the ALUG wiki: http://www.alug.org.uk/wiki/moin.cgi/Meetings All are welcome, novices and experienced users. Hopefully, it shouldn't be too hard to find the pack, look for those huddled around a laptop! Feel free to ask for further information on the Main ALUG mailing list. Hope to see you there, Peter. ----- Send discussion replies to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk (Reply-To set) Unsub, change settings via http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/announce

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Re: Monday meet
by Matthew 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

I've managed to get out of my normal other commitment so I hope to be there this Monday. I'm looking forward to a GIMP tutorial, because I find graphics packages - especially the GIMP - completely mystifying. Matthew

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problems locating mesa dependency packages
by Venura Mendis 13 Jun '07

13 Jun '07

Hi, Ive beeen trying to install graphics drivers for an Epia EX10000 board. Ive been following rather detailed and long instructions from viaarena on building and installing the graphics drivers. As required dependencies it lists VIA DRIMesaLib 6.5.2 and required packages for Ubuntu feisty as mesa_6.5.2.orig.tar.g mesa_6.5.2-3ubuntu7.diff.gz It lists lots of other dependencies (all of which I have found and installed using synaptic). I'm guessing I need to add an extra repository to find these mesa files. Though googling it has turned out several places I can actually download the file, I presume using a package manager to get it is safer. Also Ive downloaded tohe source from the mesa site, it doesnt look like these files are in the tar. Any advice? Thanks, Venura

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