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Alug server
by Martyn Drake 19 Sep '01

19 Sep '01

Hi folks, I've resolved the spat from Rackspace and even though unemployed at the end of the month, I'm confident something will turn up pretty soon and thus funds for running the server will be all sorted out. There will still be the danger of having to close the server if something doesn't turn up by the end of November, but at least the server will be kept going until then. Again, my apologies for all the panic and many, many thanks for all of you that have volunteered to take over hosting duties for the site. BTW, has anybody got anything good or bad to say about OpenBSD? One potential job could have me administrating such a box. Regards, Martyn

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RTLinux
by Neill Newman 19 Sep '01

19 Sep '01

I was speaking with somebody on sunday about RTLinux, and they were saying something about the licenseing issues.. well, this has just poped up on slashdot.. I have no idea who I was talking with, or what the implications are, I'm just passing info to the list and hoping it gets to the right person ;) http://slashdot.org/yro/01/09/17/2056231.shtml Sz -- Open Source Specialists http://www.entora.co.uk/ Tel: +44 (0)701 0723686 Fax: +44 (0)870 3214368

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Re problems with Bt
by John Seago 19 Sep '01

19 Sep '01

Having for a week banged my head against a brick wall over BT's insistence that I change from present 0800 number to a 0808 number which does not now nor has at any time since I joined, worked, today I finally got the end of my tether and made a complaint to Oftel. Four hours later I am still getting apologies from BT, arrangements are being made to ensure that I can connect and, most significantly, they have admitted that lots of other users are having the same problem connecting to 0808 numbers. I would advise anyone who is having the same problems to point out that it has been admitted that some users CAN NOT CONNECT TO THE 0808 NUMBERS, and then complain to Oftel! John Seago

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ide's for linux
by tom potts 18 Sep '01

18 Sep '01

I've played with a few like kdevelop and all have there good points but are horrendous to get properly installed. If your up to it try Forte for Java from sun - its free and only needs the JDK installing first. The real bonus of it is if your forced to use W$ at work you can run it almost identically on that too which I have found means you dont have to retrain yourself every time you swap. Tom ps: its quite resource hungry ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

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Re: main unsubscribe notification
by MJ Ray 18 Sep '01

18 Sep '01

mailman-owner(a)ns.drake.org.uk writes: > planet14(a)boyznow.net has been removed from main. Oh well. Bye Tarquin. -- MJR Thesis watch: 27% This is my personal web site =-> http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ http://www.alug.org.uk/ <-- This is the LUG I go to I work for this clever internet developer ==> http://www.luminas.co.uk/

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Any one know a good IDE?
by NuTTeR -- Not Entered -- 17 Sep '01

17 Sep '01

Well ill start by saying thanx to the guy who sent me the deian cd(sorry for the long time this thanx has taken) =) but when i got it it was broken. I guess it happened in the postall system. No real problem coz i just purchased Mandrake 8.0. Its very nice and up 2 date compared with the old slackware and redhat ive been playing with. I do a bit of programing in my spare time and wanted to know about the IDE's avalible for linux(free ones). What IDE's are avalible for Linux console, and X. I hate useing vi and emacs there interfaces are very hard to get used to(i know there gr8 programs). What do you use(if any of you program)? Thanx for the help -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Intro & Linux CD question
by Edenyard 17 Sep '01

17 Sep '01

MJ Ray wrote: > First up, welcome to the group. Maybe we'll see you at Syleham on > Sunday? I think the Debian talks are postponed until UEA, when we > should be able to sink our claws into a Debian developer too. > Thanks for the welcome! I haven't yet learnt about Syleham, so, no, I wasn't there yesderday! > Well, it sounds like a hardware problem, or at least the boot kernel > being incompatible with your hardware. The debian CDs should each > have different kernels on and I think it might be worth your while > trying the one with the "compact" or "idepci" kernels to see if that > gets you any further. > Yes - I tried idepci, compact and safe. I could get the basic kernel system installed if I copied all the relevant files on to the DOS partition and installed from there. I could boot up, log in and run 'ls', etc., but obviously there wasn't anything much installed to do anything with. I ran dselect and chose what I wanted to install and it started reading from CD. It didn't get terribly far before it just locked up again with the CD and PC's HDD LEDs both permanently lit. Would I be right in thinking that the kernel must be fairly acceptable to my hardware as I could install from HD and then boot? Then again, the CD drive happily installs Slack 3.5 and Redhat 7.1, so it seems as though that works, too! I'm going round in circles, aren't I! It almost seems as though there's a fundamental problem with the actual machine code in the files on the Crazy Penguin disks or something like that. > Good suppliers include cheeplinux and Linux Emporium. Both offer a > speedy service and decent discs. > Thanks for the tip. I've just looked at both these sites and they seem to have the sort of things I want. John Seago saw my message and has offered to lend me some CDs, so I'd like to try his first if possible, just to prove my hardware. All the best, Gerald.

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apologies
by Ricardo Campos 17 Sep '01

17 Sep '01

Sorry I didn't make it yesterday, but I was trying to get as much as poss done on my website (still not finished). Good news is, I'm finally getting things to work in Linux. Unfortunately still no support for my USB cd-writer. :( possibly some support for my USB printer, but I haven't found it yet. Getting to love Linux, Ricardo, "Surely this monstrous hybrid comes not from a mother's womb but from an Ephialtes, an Incubus, or some other horrendous demon, as though spawned in a putrid and venemous fungus, son of Fauns and Nymphs, more Devil than man." -Athanasius Kircher, Mundus Subtarraneus, Amsterdam, 1665, pp.279-280 Coming soon: http://www.rscampos.net _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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Weekly IRC reminder
by Neill Newman 17 Sep '01

17 Sep '01

This is the automated ALUG IRC meeting reminder sent to remind you that there is an IRC meeting tonight (Monday) at 8.00pm. The meeting takes place on the irc server irc.openprojects.net in the #alug channel, you can take a look at www.openprojects.net to get more info on the openprojects network. Most IRC clients should allow you to get there with the commands "/server uk.openprojects.net" or "/server eu.openprojects.net" and "/join #alug". Popular IRC clients include tkirc, bitchx, xchat and EPIC on Unix, and Mirc under windows. Here are some links to help you get started with irc. Unix http://www.xchat.org/ http://freshmeat.net/ http://www.epicsol.org/ Windows http://www.mirc.com (loads of help with irc for newbies!)

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Re: [Alug] Announce ALUG 2001.5
by MJ Ray 16 Sep '01

16 Sep '01

Adam Bower <abower(a)thebowery.co.uk> writes: > I did promise to do a talk on the Debian package management systems apt > and dselect, and the differences between stable, testing and unstable of > Debian. I will also try and talk about the Debian policy of free and > Non-free although most of it will be word for word from the Faq. OK, we have a slate of talks suggested: 1. John Woodard -- "Why I can't install Debian" 2. Adam Bower -- "Debian Package Management" 3. MJ Ray -- "Mixing Debian Stable with Latest" How about it?

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