April 2002 - main

Re: [Alug] Re: FreeBSD
by Ricardo Campos 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

> Is Zipslack any good for a starter? It may be that we can do one bootable CD with three or more distributions on. Evil, huh? ;-) I tried Zipslack and Phatlinux before any other- the only real bonus is that you don't have to get confused with partitions etc. I didn't really find them more accessable than a normal distro that sets X up for you (or helps you along!). You need to have the documentation handy too-it's probably harder for us to print that out than it is to do CD's. I think one thing that puts newbies off is: I've got this command line- now what? Anyone got one of those SUSE live evaluation CD's? I've never used one, but the concept of playing around in a Linux distro purely off a CD (without having to play with your HD) makes trying it out a lot easier. Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Would the next iptables expert step forward please.
by Ricardo Campos 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

> From the clean source code tree I did: > > make dep > make bzImage > make modules > make modules_install OK, Ricardo stating the obvious again. I know you said the source code tree is clean, but did you try to make clean or (possibly a better idea) make mrproper at any point? Worth a go, I guess, just incase you had stuff hanging about from previous comps. > bang head against wall > bang head against wall again I know that feeling too well! The only other thing I'm thinking of is maybe your compiler is fscked? Are you using gcc 2.95, or a later one? Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Re: FreeBSD
by Ricardo Campos 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

> > We'd prefer to only send out fairly large quantities, of say 100, but > > we'd consider lots of 25 as well. If you're interested then let me know. -SNIP- > Perhaps this may be of some interest for the `Install fest Day' provided > someone can install them, Pity they're on DVD, as the box I have reserved for *BSD and Debian only has an old CD-Rom drive :( I see no reason why someone shouldn't install a *BSD at the install fests, but the focus should really be *GNU*/Linux. As a related point, I suspect if people turn up, some may not bring their computers (they *are* a pain to lug around), so maybe we could have some install discs on offer? Plenty of us could put the first CD of (insert distro's name here) on a CD-R, and there's plenty of Debians CD's bandying about. Perhaps we could do a 3 disc pack for a small fee- like 1 Debian, 1 Redhat, 1 Slackware, just so that we present an offer of several distros so people can try them out. (I'm all for choice rather than forcing 1 distro on a newbie) I know Martyn had some on offer for cheap a while back (in rather spiffy cases, might I add). Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: FreeBSD
by John Seago 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

With regard to the above which was refered to in thursday's main digest, the following was posted in the Freebsd-users digest, of todays date: > Message: 1 > Subject: FreeBSD 4.4 DVDs available to a good home > From: Paul Richards <paul(a)freebsd-services.com> > To: freebsd-users(a)uk.freebsd.org > Date: 05 Apr 2002 11:54:23 +0200 > We've got several hundred copies of 4.4 left that we'd like to give away > to help promote FreeBSD. > Some ideas we've had are to give them out at computer societies in > colleges or other user groups but we're open to any other sensible > suggestions. > We'd prefer to only send out fairly large quantities, of say 100, but > we'd consider lots of 25 as well. If you're interested then let me know. > Paul. Perhaps this may be of some interest for the `Install fest Day' provided someone can install them, I've found it most perplexing as a) I never bothered to learn how to partition, and, b) one is offered such a huge choice that decision making becomes a bewildering maze. John Seago

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Perhaps my subject should have been 'kernel compile problem'
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 06 Apr '02

06 Apr '02

Having upgraded my Debian system to 'Testing' I am trying to move to kernel 2.4.18 but before I do that I need to get an iptables firewall set up. With my original 2.2.20 kernel I had used PMFirewall to set up my firewall. Answer a few simple questions and Bingo - one firewall and a perfectly servicable one too. I am trying to use Endoshield in the same way but have recompiled my kernel with the relevant bits included I get the following when depmod is run: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_REJECT.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/iptable_filter.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/iptable_mangle.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/iptable_nat.o I have never had unresolved symbols after compiling a kernel until now. Apart from that the kernel seems to work perfectly well. Barry Samuels

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Re[3]: [Alug] Would the next iptables expert step forward please.
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

"Ricardo Campos" <corez23(a)linuxmail.org> wrote: > >What I meant was I had set the relevant > > configuration options as modules. > > > > Barry Samuels > > Do the other modules generated during kernel compilation work? It's > just that the error message refers to the modules themselves. Did > you remember to > > make modules > AND > make modules_install > ? > > Sorry if I'm pointing out the obvious, but it's the obvious things > that are the easiest to miss! Other than that, I'll leave it to our > more experienced ALUG'ers! > > Ricardo All modules, apart from the ones related to iptables, work properly. Yes I did make modules and install them. I have compiled kernels many times. Never had this before. Thanks for trying. Barry Samuels

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Re: [Alug] MTU & TCP/IP (errata!)
by Ricardo Campos 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

My last info was a little incorrect. My /etc/ppp/options file reads: mtu 576 mru 512 lock Since the MRU needs to be less than the MTU. (essentially MTU- header size). Actually, I have noticed that I connect quicker as well as view pages quicker. If you remember seeing those dreadful adverts for windoze users saying "speed up your modem", this is essentially what those programs do. They also usually nag you with popups as well, though! Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: Meetings, was Re: [Alug] (no subject)
by Ricardo Campos 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

>We need to get started on this now, and then we can >use the (hopeful) Lynn >meeting to plan it further. Well, as soon as we get a confirmation on the exact date, time and location of the UEA one, I am more than willing to run around the computer shops in Norwich city centre with posters for it. Of course, that doesn't mean they'll AGREE to putting them up, but it's worth a go. I can always use the colour laser printers at work for the posters. ;) Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] MTU & TCP/IP
by Ricardo Campos 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

> > Is there any way to change the default MTU in Linux -SNIP- In response to my own question (for the archives, you see), I edited the /etc/ppp/options file, adding the lines mtu 576 #this is for outgoing connections mru 576 #this is for incoming connections (actually, I didn't add the comments). I used ping to work out the appropriate numbers. Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Would the next iptables expert step forward please.
by Ricardo Campos 05 Apr '02

05 Apr '02

> I am trying to use Endoshield in the same way but have recompiled my > kernel with the relevant bits included I get the following when depmod > is run: > > depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in > /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack.o If they are included, then you shouldn't need to load modules? The script is likely calling for modules, if iptables was compiled in, these modules won't exist. (i.e. may have to modify the script) Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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