December 2001 - main

Re Welcome to ALUG
by Colin Davis 15 Mar '02

15 Mar '02

Thank you for your welcome mail, in fact since i joined i have been supprised by the activity. This being the first mailing list i have joined. Whilst not completely to new to computing i started playing around with the Acorn Electron ( perhaps a blast from the past). Then came a break for a few years. i started again in 1994 and have been using the dare i say it, the microsoft system. I had read a lot about Linux and started to get a hankering to try it out. My son who had recently installed Linux on his computer, The Mandrake 7.1 variation. Gave me a copy as a present. Due to pressure of work i have not yet had time to get really into it although i have read and purchased a number of books on elementary Linux. I could not hack it in 24 Hours as the title of one book suggested. Here i am a newboy or not so new really, wishing to learn something about the system. Without pushing my luck on the length of correspondence allowed could one of you learned gentlemen help. My system recently got its knickers in a twist so i decided to format the hard drive and start again, something i have done in the past. What is did not even think about at the time was that i would lose contact with my Linux partition. The system was dual booted via GRUB so i could either go into Windows or Linux. Now i can only get into windows which is not what i want. How can i format all of my hard drive and repartition the drive to enable me to reinstall Linux. Colin Davis

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irc meeting reminder
by abower＠thebowery.co.uk 31 Dec '01

31 Dec '01

hi people, don't know what has happened to the irc meeting reminders but however there should be (if you are not all out drinking etc. etc. tonight) an irc meeting in #alug on uk.openprojects.net starting at 8'ish i guess, erm the full announce message will be somewhere in the archives if you want to (or need) to know more. I guess the archives url should be appended at the bottom of this message. Anyhow happy new year to you all... don't get too drunk =) Adam

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Re: Gateway problems
by Jenny Hopkins 30 Dec '01

30 Dec '01

Hi Barry - I usually hesitate in replying as I tend to get it mostly wrong, but just in case it helps: I have a win98 computer using a linux box as a gateway, and not only did I have to set the gateway etc settings, but in the properties for my browser ( Internet Explorer) I selected connections, "never dial a connection", then in LAN settings put the linux box Ip in the proxy server using port 80 (also selected "bypass proxy for local addresses"). Jenny.

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ipchains replacement
by Ian Douglas 30 Dec '01

30 Dec '01

Hi Folks, I am a newbie home based Linux user with dial-up access to the internet. Up until now, because of the small, infrequent, amount of time I am actually connected to the internet, I have simply been ensuring that I always log on as a normal user (rather than root) to protect my PC, however I have recently been wondering whether it would be wise to install some kind of protection for my PC. Looking in my little Linux text book it would appear that "ipchains" would probably be sufficient for my needs (rather than setting up a dedicated firewall), however, when I try to use ipchains I get the error message: ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel. The kernel I am using is 2.4.10 and I am wondering if this error message is hinting that ipchains has now been superseded. Is there a modern replacement for ipchains? If so then what is it and where could I find some info on setting it up to protect my PC? Thanks, Ian.

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Gateway problems
by bsamuels＠beenthere-donethat.org.uk 30 Dec '01

30 Dec '01

I have a machine running Debian 2.2 which can be connected to the internet via a modem. This is part of a small network. One of the other machines on the network can use the above machine as a gateway and connect successfully to web sites using a browser when running Linux. If the same (secondary) machine is running Windows 95 it cannot connect to any web sites via the Linux gateway machine although the gateway address is set correctly in the network configuration on the secondary machine. Can anyone please offer any pointers? Barry Samuels

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Debian: Configuring Gnome
by Chris Lale 29 Dec '01

29 Dec '01

Hello! I have installed Gnome from the official release CDROMs but I cannot get the standard desktop with The "foot" icon, bottom bar, panels etc. I get a custom "debian" background, and menus that appear when I right-click the desktop. There is a workspace icon in the top right-hand corner. Also I cannot change the window manager via Gnome control center, or find a way of adding items to the menus. I do not know whether the problem is in the window manager or the Gnome configuration. Does anyone know how I can install a clean "standard" version of Gnome? Regards Chris Lale

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RE:Debian: Configuring Gnome (Chris Lale
by Teknoid 28 Dec '01

28 Dec '01

Sounds like you don't actually have gnome running, but only a window manager. Don't know much about debian's layout, but if its anything like slackware then you might need to change the link in /etc/X11/xinit/xinit which is prolly just pointing to a window manager config file. Relink it to gnome, start X, use gnome to load the window manager in gnome config. GL Teknoid -----Original Message----- From: main-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk [mailto:main-admin@lists.alug.org.uk] On Behalf Of main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk Sent: 28 December 2001 18:01 To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: main digest, Vol 1 #139 - 1 msg Send main mailing list submissions to main(a)lists.alug.org.uk To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to main-request(a)lists.alug.org.uk You can reach the person managing the list at main-admin(a)lists.alug.org.uk When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of main digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Debian: Configuring Gnome (Chris Lale) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:13:00 +0000 From: Chris Lale <ctlale(a)netscape.net> To: main(a)lists.alug.org.uk Subject: [Alug] Debian: Configuring Gnome Hello! I have installed Gnome from the official release CDROMs but I cannot get the standard desktop with The "foot" icon, bottom bar, panels etc. I get a custom "debian" background, and menus that appear when I right-click the desktop. There is a workspace icon in the top right-hand corner. Also I cannot change the window manager via Gnome control center, or find a way of adding items to the menus. I do not know whether the problem is in the window manager or the Gnome configuration. Does anyone know how I can install a clean "standard" version of Gnome? Regards Chris Lale --__--__-- _______________________________________________ main(a)lists.alug.org.uk http://www.anglian.lug.org.uk/ http://lists.alug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/main End of main Digest

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Electronics Unix
by D.I.Freeman 25 Dec '01

25 Dec '01

Does anybody on list know much about electronics development under linux? Does anyone know of some OSS PCB design and schematic capture programs? What about development tools for VDHL and Pic's Thanks D

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Portables
by D.I.Freeman 25 Dec '01

25 Dec '01

All, I am looking for a portable device which I can use for uni which has the following features 1) SSh client 2) Qwerty keyboard 3) PCMCIA slot for 802.11b card I have looked at either a cheap or second hand laptop running bsd or a compaq Ipaq or possibley somthing combled togther from PC104 boards. What would people suggest? It just needs to be reasonably cheap and have the ability to ssh into my shell account. Thanks D

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dns and self-torture
by Jenny Hopkins 23 Dec '01

23 Dec '01

Thanks for the help on setting up the home mail. I had a reply to Ricardo on setting up a DNS server (to do it the hard way) along the lines of nettle whips and sack-cloth, but I've been getting in a slight muddle with elm, and swapping alug addresses, so it got lost along the way somewhere. Jen.

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