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Re: [Alug] Evolution 1.0 out
by MJ Ray 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

Andrew: > The Exchange interoperability one is, certainly. Which makes sense, I > guess. It's not available yet (due early 2002) and will be priced at $69 > ($599 for 10 pack, $1499 for 25 pack). Personally, I'm in favour of > this: build a great free client, and then charge a "Microsoft tax" for > those people that insist on hooking up to non-free groupware servers. Can it really cut the mustard, though? It's little use doing this if it's not going to make money. If it's not open and there are bugs in it, are people going to blame the MS server or the small company's connector? While I know where we'd point the finger, I don't think your typical PHB would agree. > [...] Use the money to fund development of a decent free groupware server, > perhaps. Now that would be worth seeing. > I think Evolution *is* a case of doing one thing and doing it well. [...] Reportedly, it's actually a gaggle of little bits with sometimes questionable cohesion and bad control over its components. Is having PIM and email in one location desirable? I find it quite helpful keeping them apart, although having better connectivity to the PIM would be very useful. > [...] As a matter of fact, I'm back to using the mail client I started off > with in 1992, which is still the best IMHO :-) Surely that's just the old cliche that "normal is whatever I'm used to". I don't think PINE is really where it's at any more. It shows it age in some ways and is still non-free, isn't it? -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Evolution 1.0 out
by MJ Ray 04 Dec '01

04 Dec '01

James: > Evolution 1.0 is out. Debs expected in unstable... Well, sometime soon. Is it true that some of the connectors are non-free? In any case, I think I prefer tools that "do one thing and do it well". I need to find a better one for email, or make this one better. But that's for my CFT, whenever it reappears. -- MJR

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Evolution 1.0 out
by James Green 03 Dec '01

03 Dec '01

For those interested but not keeping tabs on online life ;) Evolution 1.0 is out. Debs expected in unstable... Well, sometime soon. I'm personally running 0.99.0 right now with no problems. Although it is with a local imap server :). Regards to all, James Green

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Re: [Alug] locale settings question
by MJ Ray 03 Dec '01

03 Dec '01

Syd: > I sometimes get this error message (MDK8.0, su'd to root in a > terminal window): Can you define "sometimes", please? > Is it serious and what do I do about it? Incidentally I am not > trying to run perl - for example, the above is part of the output > in response to the supermount command. Maybe supermount runs perl? To me, the problem looks like you may not have the en_GB locale set up and configured. There's some info on this in the perllocale(1p) man page. How you correct it on Mandrake, I'm not sure. -- MJR

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Re: [Alug] Beep! How do I stop this?
by Ricardo Campos 03 Dec '01

03 Dec '01

> I'm running Mandrake 8.0 at the moment so just for the sheer hell of it > typed man man > and what do you know? Seems mine's the stinker, I reinstalled since I last tried it. I just thought a lack of a man man was some hilarious UNIX joke. ha ha. Well, I always thought my pc was an envoy of Satan, sent down (up?) to this world to cause me great confuZion. Hence it's hostname (which, quite frankly, is not repeatable), which originated from the stream of expletives I've hurled at it since I installed Linux! >:) Oh well... -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Re: [Alug] Beep! How do I stop this?
by Ricardo Campos 03 Dec '01

03 Dec '01

> q I believe, I enerally mash the keyboard until the man page disapears ;) Me too, but q doesn't work. :( Still, not a problem in an Xterm. > yes it does, type man man... First thing I tried! (It doesn't appear to have one on my system). Mandrake 8.0, you gotta love it's inconsistencies. ;) -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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X 4.1.0 for Debian,
by Ricardo Campos 03 Dec '01

03 Dec '01

Posted to the list, incase anyone wants X4.1.0 on Debian (or searches the archives for it later on) >I have the som 'unofficial' .deb packages to install X4.0.1 on Deb Potato (hopefully Debian 2.2r3 is Potato). > >> Add in your /etc/apt/sources.list: >> >> # - X4 from cpbotha >> deb http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/ xf410_potato/i386/ >> deb http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/ xf410_potato/all/ >> Unfortunately, we skipped configuring wvdial when installing Debian. Oh, yup. I won't be doing this tonight, as I'm off to a gig. I'm sure the next barrage of Debian questions will come as soon as I have time AND get bored of Tux Racer AND Rune. ;) Heh heh... Ricardo -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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ALUG-IRC 8pm tonight
by MJ Ray 03 Dec '01

03 Dec '01

The regular weekly ALUG-IRC will take place in #alug on uk.openprojects.net / eu.openprojects.net tonight at 8pm. If you need help getting on IRC, take a look at http://www.alug.org.uk/articles/2001a/alugfaq.html or email me. Of course, we'd welcome other LUGs in the region to come along and join in, if you want. -- MJR Anglian LUG http://www.alug.org.uk/ No ePatents http://petition.eurolinux.org/ FSF Europe http://www.fsfeurope.org/

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Re: [Alug] Beep! How do I stop this?
by Ricardo Campos 03 Dec '01

03 Dec '01

> try 'man xset', I think there is an option in there... Incidentally, how do you exit a man page? I normally put it thru more instead: man xxx | more Of course, man has no man page! :D -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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Beep! How do I stop this?
by Ricardo Campos 03 Dec '01

03 Dec '01

Currently I'm using Black Box or WindowMaker as window managers. (mainly windowmaker). HOWEVER, they both make an annoying beep (via the motherboard- a system beep like when you boot up, rather than thru the soundcard) every hour on the hour. Very annoying when you're playing a DVD! I can't seem to find a setting in either manager to stop this, nor can I find any reference in their respective docs. It doesn't do it in Gnome or <shudder> KDE. Haven't tried Xfce (yet). Anyone come across this? -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze

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