Social March 2005

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Re: [alug social] Re: Linux party
by John Seago 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 03:25:16PM +0000, Jonathan McDowell wrote > On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 06:48:13AM +0000, John Seago wrote something > that was in reply to an existing thread, but lacked In-Reply-To or > References headers. > > Can you fix your email client please? I originally thought KMail (which > is what your headers claim you're using) was broken, but there are other > ALUGers using it without breaking threads. It's much easier to read > lists when associated posts are kept together in my experience. I am indeed using Kmail, in fact the Kmail which comes with the KDE in Slackware 10.1 and I believe, Debian Sarge, both of which are installed on my computer. > It's been pointed out to you that you might be reading via a digest, in > which case at least one of the digest options removes message ids. Is > there any chance you'd consider switching to a MIME based digest (which > I think should preserve a Message-Id header) or individual posts? Again you are right in assuming that I am reading, and writing in reply to, everything in the form of a daily digest, and, I assume, in plain text. I have, however, had a look at the seetings which inform me that there are two options MIME Compliant (Quoted Printable), which is the option set, or Allow 8 bit. There is a third possibility, I am broken, at waist level, and suffer from chronic pain. In the winter, when the pain is usually at its worst, I take quantities of drugs which have either been withdrawn from issue to new patients, fall into Class A, or are addictive. I had a bad year last year, and this cold winter has not improved matters. Pain and drugs diminish what little remaining intellect I had. so it may be that whilst I can remeber something, I will have difficulty in reading back to find it, sometimes such activity can be quite entertaining with the individual letters doing tiller girl routines across the page. I am, for about an hour after the regular doses, until they start to wear off about five to seven hours later, likely to be higher than a kite, either that or I am asleep. which is why you may find messages timed at 03.00 hrs as drugs have worn off before they were due to and I am reading and replying to mail, until such time as I can have the next dose. Perhaps you could solve other problems I have with Digests, the FSFE digest arrives with each digest dated <Thu Jan 1 00:59:59 1970>. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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Re: Linux Political Party
by John Seago 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

Well this matter has sat on the Social list for more than 24hrs now, Sid Dabster floated it, the only others who contributed were one of the earliest Secretary's, (if not the first, my memory's not too good these days), to the AFFS, and myself, AFFS membership No. 9. In short, preaching to the converted. It doesn't seeem to be a terribly good start does it? Indications of interest in helping not exactly flooding in. Remember that so far there don't seem to be enough to sign up to register as a Party, let alone nominate a candidate, I'd be prepared to subscribe £24.00 which is the usual party subscription, where are the other subscription's? I'm afraid that the oppositional route, campaigning against being looks like the only practical way to achieve any result. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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Re: Linux party
by John Seago 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

On Wednesday 02 Mar 2005 06:26, Sid Dabster <sid_dabster(a)yahoo.ca> wrote: > Iran is not going to be invaded by the UK, social > list subscribes already now there is a single issue > party to stop that, with several other parties > against. There is however no party actively supporting > FLOSS in East Anglia. Votes for a Linux > Party would show support for a positive progressive > idea, in an election filled with negativeaty. The Our World our Say Advertisement said "Our World Our Say was founded in response to the Iraq war with the aim of giving people a voice over world changing issues. We have since grown into a movement with over 60,000 people taking part in our campaigns. Our Vision of a world in which ordinary people have real power over decisions that affect our future. Our Mission: in a world where politicians are too influenced by large companies, media magnates and the President of the United States. Our World Our Say seeks to return Power to ordinary people by helping them find hteir political voice. By using modern technology, we are building a community that can influence decision makers as global conflict, human rights the future of the environment and defending democratic values." Note the "Mission" section would seem to cover the current software Patent situation neatly, I've written to ask what they intend to do, I'll let you know their reply. On the other hand as Ipswich always used to be a few hundred, sometimes less thatn two hundered either way that would seem to be the obvious target. I don't think you'd/we'd win though just possibly get one of the other candidatez in by taking away votes. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/) -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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Linux Party
by John Seago 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

Sid Dabster wrote: > I have some knowledge of UKIP, they are a single issue > party, which is one of the reasons Veritas was formed. > We already have a pressure group the AFFS, we need to > go on to the next step, it going to happen, lets be > first here in East Anglia rather than waiting for > someone else. Imagine a party political broadcast on > Anglia TV, made using Dynabolic. How about putting the > proposal on a Wiki page. You also mentioned, to the best of my recollection, somewhere that registration only took a few signatures and £150.00. However putting up a candidate requires several nominations signatures and IIRC £1000.00 deposit. then there is the matter of which seat someone is going to stand in. Which seat would estimate we might WIN, as opposed to taking votes from one candidate and allowing another to win. I believe that Ipswich was one I thought might have the best prospect of doing that. that lets a Tory in, where do Software Patents stand then? Opposition, then provides the route to achieve that without the costs, and may, only may prove more effective. It has to be quick though as the Election has already started, organising for some form of action starts now -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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Re: Linux Political Party
by John Seago 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

I don't just listen to the wireless, I also read the papers, and I found an advertisement, which may help with the underlying problem which has manifested itself as a call for a Linux Political Party. See here: http://www.owos.info/ Why just a Linux Party? Why not include the BSD's, and others, take a look here: http://www.freeos.com/ and I'm sure there are others. -- John Seago GNU/Linux User #219566 (http://counter.li.org) AFFS (http://www.affs.org.uk/)

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